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 Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:06 am Post subject: Amanda Knox freed |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15043002
| Quote: | Photographs, videos, social network entries and stories from her past were used to portray the Jesuit-educated student as a temptress with a dark and callous side.
But this could not be further from the truth, says Sean Glynn, who befriended her at Seattle Prep and exchanged letters with her in prison.
"If they had revealed something embarrassing it might have been difficult to take, but this was so contrary to the Amanda Knox I knew that it was just stupid." |
Yeah, right. She's washed of milk. 
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| jdmulloy wrote: | | Hey if we're freeing murderers can we free Hand Reiser so he can help the BTRFS guys finish? |
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Free Hans Reiser Movement.
Unfortunately all the members of this movement are broke, therefore cannot afford to raise any money to free Mr Reiser.
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The Italian cops tortured her for over 56 hours straight. Without any legal representation, which I understand is completely legal in Italy.
Fucking barbarians.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| Old School wrote: | The Italian cops tortured her for over 56 hours straight. Without any legal representation, which I understand is completely legal in Italy.
Fucking barbarians. |
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their entire case hinged on shoddy police work, and contaminated DNA evidence found in such small amounts it should have been thrown out from the get-go.
There was plainly no credible evidence against the broad. The prosecutor "leaked" a bunch of badly out of context pieces of information to the media, in order to paint her a certain way to the public, so that they'd be demanding her head on a stake. Turns out the prosecutor himself had been arrested in the past for his dodgy misdealings in past legal cases (yet somehow was inexplicably allowed to keep his license).
The case against the US hikers in Iran had better legal credibility than this joke. And thanks to that, a young girl has been locked up for four years of her life, wrongly, and the family of the victim has been strung along unable to properly grieve or put this tragedy behind them.
They finally got it right, but damn, holy fucking incompetent. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:43 am Post subject: |
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all that said, she'll never be free from herpes
and that's what really matters here |
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| Old School wrote: | The Italian cops tortured her for over 56 hours straight. Without any legal representation, which I understand is completely legal in Italy.
Fucking barbarians. |
BTW, her conviction for slander was upheld. So the claim of torture and 56 hours and whatnot is complete make-belief.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| notageek wrote: | | BTW, her conviction for slander was upheld. So the claim of torture and 56 hours and whatnot is complete make-belief. |
well, no. It's called them trying to save face after having wrongly held a woman in prison for 4 years. Notice they sentenced her to 3 years (nullified after time served) for slander. |
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She did get out for a technicality, didn't she?
Wait, why does that sound familiar? Oh, right O J Simpson.
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| notageek wrote: | She did get out for a technicality, didn't she?
Wait, why does that sound familiar? Oh, right O J Simpson. |
everyone who gets acquitted or convicted is done so on a technicality
in this case, that technicality was "we have absolutely no evidence whatsoever she did it"
I mean really, the whole thing was a joke. Their only "solid" evidence was DNA evidence, which it turns out wasn't anywhere close to being credible or sufficient. DNA on a bra clasp that you accidentally dropped on the floor repeatedly? DNA recovered from the handle of a knife, in a ridiculously small amount, 6 weeks after it'd been sitting around in an evidence locker? Yeah, crazy stuff, finding someone's DNA on the handle of a knife in the house they live in, totally credible even if it's obtained and filed properly (which it wasn't).
Whereas in the case of OJ, damn near *everything* pointed to him being guilty. |
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This is same as OJ.
OJ's defence: The DNA collection procedure has not followed standard procedure, therefore possibly contaminated, therefore not submittable as evidence.
Knox's evidence: ditto.
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| notageek wrote: | This is same as OJ.
OJ's defence: The DNA collection procedure has not followed standard procedure, therefore possibly contaminated, therefore not submittable as evidence.
Knox's evidence: ditto. |
that's...not how evidence works. at all. that's not even a correct recollection of the OJ case (which, unfortunately I remember all too well - my local basketball team was in the NBA finals, and they kept interrupting the fucking games with OJ's goddamn car chase and subsequent trial) |
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Yeah...
The only difference I see is, OJ was a big, black dude, with a lot of money, while Knoxy is a foxy chick, who you'd like to bang, with a lot of money.
Dude --> Guilty.
Chick --> Not guilty. Damsel in distress.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| notageek wrote: |
The only difference I see is, OJ was a big, black dude, with a lot of money, while Knoxy is a foxy chick, who you'd like to bang, with a lot of money.
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id never bang a broad with the herp
a lesser, curable venereal disease? of course, if she's hot enough, and i have ready access to penicillin
she's, also, not particularly attractive
I have more of a bias in OJ's favor than I do in hers, as OJ was a fucking phenomenal football player (I always, wrong or not, defend players), and brilliant as Nordberg in the Naked Gun movies. Knox is a mediocre at best broad with the herp.
at any rate: there were mountains of evidence in the OJ trial that wasn't thrown out. In this case, all they had was a bra clasp (which, we have them dropping it repeatedly *on video*) with DNA on it, and a minuscule trace of DNA on a knife handle (a knife that the medical examiner testified was NOT used in the murder), from a house the women shared. That's literally it, their entire case hinged on that, and character assassination. There was also a very reasonable motive, and opportunity in the OJ trial. There's also the matter of a frantic crazy escape attempt (none in the Knox case), a bloody footprint matching OJ's size (in the Knox case, the room was covered with Rudy Guede's bloody footprints, yet, none from Knox or her boyfriend? seriously?), sightings of a man matching OJ's description entering the house at a time corresponding with the murder. That's a staggering difference, as far as evidence goes.
in the Knox case, the motive was "a drug-fueled ritualistic satanic sex orgy", as opposed to "this cracker is banging MY wife, driving around in MY car that *I* paid for"
There's also the matter of him losing his civil suit. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:05 am Post subject: |
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She's guilty as sin, and if her parents weren't rich, she'd be rotting in prison. Now, she gets rich by selling a book, and dances on the grave of her dead roommate. Karma needs to slam her hard.
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | She's guilty as sin |
based on what?
most of the people who swear she's guilty are basing that conclusion on specific targeted attacks against her character by the prosecutor, which, at least in the early days, we didn't know about this prosecutor's own sordid past and history of seriously sketchy shit in his prosecutorial role.
I see no evidence, nor motive. I do see "opportunity", but don't you think it's a touch outlandish, this story the prosecutor painted here? |
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I'd do her in a cocaine second.
I love that expression. Thanks chopinzee. 
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| cach0rr0 wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | She's guilty as sin |
based on what? |
Pure gut feel.
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At the very least, she knows what happened.
I would still do her.
In a cocaine second.
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Maybe that is what was meant by She's alright, she's alright, she's alright. Cocaine.
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| Old School wrote: | | in cocaine second. |
I like "in a cocaine heartbeat" better.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, the circumstances, her alibi and everything else.
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I think she and her boyfriend slipped her room-mate a ruphie and manipulated the black dude into fucking her (via group sex on her bed) so they could frame him for her murder.
I think she's a little sociopath who probably deserves the electric chair. But the court has ruled, and that's just my gut feel.
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The argument that since she was also living there, therefore they found her DNA on the kitchen knife also raises the question as to why wasn't there more of her DNA found?
Probably because the scene was staged and clean-up was done. Who knows. I was reading somewhere according to the Italian judicial system, you can appeal the weakest evidence found and focus on that, which they did and not the whole case.
Also the black dude convicted, was done so on the premise that there were others who assisted him.
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| notageek wrote: | | The argument that since she was also living there, therefore they found her DNA on the kitchen knife also raises the question as to why wasn't there more of her DNA found? |
As the Medical Examiner testified, the knife on which they found Knox's DNA, was NOT the weapon used to inflict the injuries that ultimately killed Meredith Kercher.
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Probably because the scene was staged and clean-up was done. Who knows. I was reading somewhere according to the Italian judicial system, you can appeal the weakest evidence found and focus on that, which they did and not the whole case. |
It would be pretty damn difficult, even in the age of CSI being all over the TV, to clean up a room full of bloody footprints *except* those of Rudy Guede, without at the very least leaving behind some evidence that a cleanup had taken place.
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Also the black dude convicted, was done so on the premise that there were others who assisted him. |
from what i understand, there was no physical evidence there were others who assisted him. The prosecutor, fraudulently, "leaked" information to the press that there was. Most of what people knew about the case prior to the first conviction was information "leaked" by the prosecutor to the press. Based on the prosecutor's track record for similar misconduct in the past, it's started to become more clear that he'd been manipulating, and flat-out lying, to the media, with hopes that a mob mentality would take over, calling for her to be lynched. The angle, was that the judges and jury would never vote to acquit if there was a public uproar demanding this woman's head on a plate. People found out it was the prosecutor behind the "leaked" information, called shenanigans, and after it turned out every single piece of physical evidence (all 2 pieces of it, rather) had been completely mishandled - in the case of the bra clasp, mishandled *on video* - what was already a mostly useless irrelevant bit of physical evidence lost all final remaindered relevance.
Don't be surprised if you see the prosecutor censured after this, this is one of those where he went balls out to try and make a name for himself instead of trying to do his job. |
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