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dman777
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 Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: lilo graphics |
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| i'm looking for better resolution and more colors on my splash screen(currently using grub). does lilo do it better? |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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nope - worse, in fact...
what's wrong with grub? does xpm's at least... limited to 640x480, but what isn't?
srsly... how often do you boot anyway? 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: |
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I had the same thoughts a couple of years ago. I am fine with the resolution, but the color depth can make some of the best splash screens look downright horrid. After doing some soul searching I found the best action was to quit using that other OS and set the grub timeout to 0 bypassing it completley. Now the only time I look at that menu is when I am working on a new test kernel.  |
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| shiney wrote: | | I had the same thoughts a couple of years ago. I am fine with the resolution, but the color depth can make some of the best splash screens look downright horrid. After doing some soul searching I found the best action was to quit using that other OS and set the grub timeout to 0 bypassing it completley. Now the only time I look at that menu is when I am working on a new test kernel. |
You can get GRUB to look quite funky actually, I've just never seen a point to it. |
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just set hidemenu or whatever the option was, so you don't have to see it
lilo is ugly by default actually, but I'm using anyway, because I want a 64bit bootloader. Also, I like it's configuration better than grub's.
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| MalleRIM wrote: | just set hidemenu or whatever the option was, so you don't have to see it
lilo is ugly by default actually, but I'm using anyway, because I want a 64bit bootloader. Also, I like it's configuration better than grub's. |
Grub is 64bit. In fact, the handbook says:
| amd64 handbook wrote: | | Warning: Using LILO on the AMD64 architecture is not recommended. |
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Grub is not 64bit. Just use file on Grub's executables. They are 32bit, even on a 64bit system. When using a non-multilib system, you have to use grub-static, as you can't compile 32bit code. lilo works fine for me, I guess that line in the Handbook is outdated, lilo even has the amd64 keyword.
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| MalleRIM wrote: | | Grub is not 64bit. Just use file on Grub's executables. They are 32bit, even on a 64bit system. When using a non-multilib system, you have to use grub-static, as you can't compile 32bit code. lilo works fine for me, I guess that line in the Handbook is outdated, lilo even has the amd64 keyword. |
umm... does it really matter?
In an ideal world, the bootloader code wouldn't even go into protected mode - in fact, I don't think it does.
Keep in mind how booting on a x86-like system works - In the beginning, the processor acts exactly like a very fast 8086. When the kernel throws it into protected mode, it becomes a 386 with extra instructions (this is where 32-bit systems stop). From there, another set of instructions is given to enable the 64-bit instructions, making the processor the full 386 with 64-bit and other extra instructions.
Since the kernel throws it into 64-bit mode (or doesn't - if it's a 32-bit kernel, it will stop at 32-bit), it makes sense to keep bootloader code 32-bit clean - and you shouldn't put the processor into 64-bit mode twice... not that it should do any harm.
The same goes with protected mode. In case the kernel needs to do instructions outside of protected mode before jumping into it, the kernel should be booted in the mode the processor starts out in.
Lilo has 32-bit binaries as well - keep in mind that anything compiled with the bin86 tools (like the bootsector of lilo) becomes a binary fit for an 8086 (or 386, if you throw it into protected mode), in other words, completely 32-bit.
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A few years ago, I got GRUB to run in 1280x1024, but you'd have to use an ebuild that adds themeing support. Also, the one I based it on used a JPEG background, and there was a limit to the size of the image (as in KB), and I really didn't care whether I have a normal GRUB or a high-res grub since it only shows for a few seconds any time I need to reboot my machine...
If anyone really wants it, I can dig it up so you can play with it.
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| poly_poly-man wrote: | | umm... does it really matter? |
Nope, it just makes me feel better  anyway, I shouldn't have started this off-topic conversation
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| If only it was able to have more colors at least....that would be nice. |
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Take a look at Gfxboot.
| openSUSE wrote: | | The bootlogo image back.jpg is a normal jpg file with 800x600 in size, 72dpi and 24bit depth. To reduce the size, use the normal jpg compression (87-90% should be enough) - the image should have no more than 55KB in the end. |
As I said earlier, you'll need an ebuild for patched GRUB.
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dman777
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Few questions:
1) If I wait for GRUB2, will I be waiting forever?
2). I can't find the latest stable release version and date of GFXGrub. I went on the SuSe page and it doesn't give it. Anyone know where I can find what the latest release version/date is?
3). Where do you get themes for this? |
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Moved from Gentoo Chat to Off the Wall.
not about gentoo, so moved here.
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| Ubuntu has a nice bootloader in the works i think |
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