Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
How many pub. overlays added? /What's in your pers. overlay?
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

Goto page 1, 2  Next  
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Gentoo Chat
View previous topic :: View next topic  

How many overlays are you using, excluding any personal overlays? (layman -l)
0 (Just the portage tree)
41%
 41%  [ 41 ]
1
12%
 12%  [ 12 ]
2
16%
 16%  [ 16 ]
3
9%
 9%  [ 9 ]
4
7%
 7%  [ 7 ]
5
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
6
4%
 4%  [ 4 ]
7 or more
8%
 8%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 100

Author Message
node_one
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 165

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: How many pub. overlays added? /What's in your pers. overlay? Reply with quote

I searched and I did not find a previous poll about this. Anyway, I am curious what the results will be. I just want to compare my usage with everyone else's.

EDIT: Just to clarify the question slightly, If you copy ebuilds from other overlays into your own personal overlay to use, I think that is a different aspect of overlay usage. In that case, exclude those overlays from your count. It may be interesting to run a poll with that question as well.

EDIT: Title change, again. Poll ends in 6 months, but I cannot fit that in the title.


Last edited by node_one on Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:40 pm; edited 5 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Veldrin
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 1942
Location: Zurich, Switzerland

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well - For me it depends on the system. I maintain 2 Gentoo Servers and my personal Workstation.

While the Servers are clean - no overlays installed - I have pulled in 4 overlays on my workstation. But I am not sure which of those I really use.
  • sunrise overlay: There are various small packages I need
  • enlightenmant overlay: for testinstalling enlightenment 17 - but I don't really use it
  • zen-overlay: needed for some (zen-)kernel testing, but I stick with gentoo sources for the time being
  • desktop-effects: I cannot remember why it is installed - possibly because I intended to test compiz


I had kdesvn-portage installed for a few days to test kde-4.1, but I cannot use it ATM, as I still need some packages, that rely on qt-4.3, rather on qt-4.4 - and I am not that unpatient.

I voted 4, although it might be a bit high...

cheers
V.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
yngwin
Developer
Developer


Joined: 19 Dec 2002
Posts: 4394
Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use 3 at the moment: berkano, kdesvn-portage and sunrise.
_________________
"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
Free Culture | Defective by Design | EFF
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fangorn
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 31 Jul 2004
Posts: 1886

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After having the second inconsitency in dependencies between 2 overlays I decided to use just the ebuilds needed in my private overlay. So you could say I use 1 overlay or 8 overlays, depending on the point of view.

Maybe this makes it clear why I am not a fan of overlays. :roll:
_________________
Video Encoding scripts collection | Project page
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
myceliv
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I selected one, because really there's only one that I use full time, although 1.3 would probably be about right. About every three to six weeks I pull in an overlay to try something I think I need, but without fail I've either found a better solution within portage repo or decided it just wasn't so great an application period.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Alabattai
n00b
n00b


Joined: 30 Jul 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Warsaw

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just kdesvn-portage here.
_________________
It really is of importance, not only what men do, but also what manner of men they are that do it.
Among the works of man... the first importance surely is man himself.
- John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
d2_racing
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 13046
Location: Ste-Foy,Canada

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will use it in a near futur, but I'm not friendly with this parallel portage tree :P
_________________
Sysadmin of GentooQuébec.org
Wiki
Signature
IRC on Freenode : #gentoo-quebec
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mv
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 20 Apr 2005
Posts: 4222

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giving a number is really hard. I think most people want just a few ebuilds from some overlays, and so I guess, for many people it actually does not make sense to pull in entire overlays (of course, there are some exceptions like kde for which a whole overlay is really reasonable). Usually, I just copy those few ebuilds which I want into my personal overlays and then erase the rest of the overlay; so I guess the correct number should be 0.

It would be nice if there would be a more standardized way to fetch/update just a single package from some overlay. (For some overlays there is some web-interface, for others not; and of course also a web interface is not really a standardized solution.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
hielvc
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 19 Apr 2002
Posts: 2801
Location: Oceanside, Ca

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just portage. I can get into enough trouble just useing it.
_________________
An A-Z Index of the Linux BASH command line
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kernelOfTruth
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 5720
Location: Vienna, Austria; Germany; hello world :)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
ls -l /etc/paludis/repositories/
total 16
-rw-r----- 1 root root 311 2008-01-14 23:32 arcon.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 289 2007-10-19 14:45 berkano.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 310 2008-01-27 23:54 desktop-effects.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 401 2007-12-08 01:25 desktopevolution.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 311 2008-02-14 01:55 enlightenment.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 378 2007-10-19 14:45 experimental_overlay.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 290 2008-02-14 01:51 gentoo-de.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 300 2008-02-14 01:36 gentooscience.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 304 2007-10-19 14:45 gentopia.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 344 2008-02-09 14:52 gnome.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 374 2008-06-23 12:50 kdesvn.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 381 2008-06-23 12:49 kdesvn-portage.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 317 2007-10-19 14:45 misc_overlay.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 302 2008-04-19 20:24 mozilla.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 356 2008-02-14 01:49 novell.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 435 2007-10-19 14:45 paludis-extras.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 309 2007-12-31 12:42 pinot.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 366 2008-04-05 16:04 qt44.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 289 2007-10-19 14:45 rmh3093.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 383 2007-10-19 14:45 sabayon.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 304 2007-10-19 14:45 sunrise.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 313 2008-05-17 11:46 virtualbox.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 298 2008-02-14 01:52 vmware.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 293 2007-12-21 11:59 xeffects.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 283 2008-02-14 15:28 xwing.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 288 2007-10-19 14:45 ycarus.conf


(unrelated output was removed)
_________________
https://github.com/kernelOfTruth/ZFS-for-SystemRescueCD/tree/ZFS-for-SysRescCD-4.3.0-r2
2.6.37.2_plus_v1: BFS, CFS,THP,compaction, zcache or TOI
Hardcore Linux user since 2004 :D
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
node_one
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 165

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fangorn wrote:
After having the second inconsitency in dependencies between 2 overlays I decided to use just the ebuilds needed in my private overlay.

I have experienced some of this as well.

kernelOfTruth wrote:
ls -l /etc/paludis/repositories/
total 16
-rw-r----- 1 root root 311 2008-01-14 23:32 arcon.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 289 2007-10-19 14:45 berkano.conf
...

Oh my. I am impressed. 8O How are you able to handle it? Maybe I should look into how Paludis works.

P.S. Please, lets not get into "this package manager, that package manager" type of discussion. There are enough posts covering that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kernelOfTruth
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 5720
Location: Vienna, Austria; Germany; hello world :)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

currently paludis is not my package-manager of choice:

I'm using it for syncing all of the overlays (it's a little more convenient for me to enter paludis -s),

portage is able to handle all of the overlays (I've entered them into /etc/make.conf),

some packages needed to be masked - don't ask me which they were, that was a long time ago ;)
_________________
https://github.com/kernelOfTruth/ZFS-for-SystemRescueCD/tree/ZFS-for-SysRescCD-4.3.0-r2
2.6.37.2_plus_v1: BFS, CFS,THP,compaction, zcache or TOI
Hardcore Linux user since 2004 :D
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rgk
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 140
Location: ny

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right now i just use sunrise (though i mostly just use the main portage tree)
_________________
MadGizmo.com is awesome.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
yabbadabbadont
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 4791
Location: 2 exits past crazy

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my local overlay:
Code:
/home/daffy $ lf -R /usr/local/portage/
/usr/local/portage/:
media-gfx/  media-video/

/usr/local/portage/media-gfx:
gqview/

/usr/local/portage/media-gfx/gqview:
Manifest  files/  gqview-2.0.4.ebuild

/usr/local/portage/media-gfx/gqview/files:
gqview-2.0.4-remember-divider-positions.patch

/usr/local/portage/media-video:
tovid/

/usr/local/portage/media-video/tovid:
Manifest  files/  tovid-9999.ebuild

/usr/local/portage/media-video/tovid/files:
tovid-configure.patch  tovid-configure.patch.backup
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
WastingBody
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 09 May 2008
Posts: 105

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my local overlay and the desktop-effects overlay for some eye candy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arnvidr
Guru
Guru


Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 454
Location: Oslo, Norway

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a way to check what overlays are actually in use? layman reports 7 overlays, but I suspect at least one of those are not used, since whatever package I wanted from it was found to not be what I wanted after all.
_________________
Noone wrote:
anything
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bytenirvana
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 10 Jun 2006
Posts: 218
Location: Volksstaat Hessen

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use one overlay (desktop-effects) for compiz because the versions in portage are too old.
_________________
Linux User #422770
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Leon_UK
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Posts: 128
Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use one overlay, enlightenment, since e17 is my Desktop shell (as they call it) of choice, on both my pc and laptop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
node_one
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 165

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to apologize to the people using 7 or more overlays for not making the poll go to 20 or something. I did not mean to cluster all of you together.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
poly_poly-man
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Posts: 2477
Location: RIT, NY, US

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: What's in your personal overlay? Reply with quote

I, for one, keep a personal /usr/local/portage around, in case I need to modify an ebuild, download one from bgo, etc.

This doesn't count layman overlays - only what you keep yourself.

I have:

games-arcade/ppracer, with patch for more joystick buttons support (8->19, to support my sixaxis)
games-arcade/supertux, the 0.3.1 slotted ebuild

media-gfx/f4l, not that it works.

net-mail/mailutils, I forget why...

app-cdr/k9copy, with the new-ffmpeg patch

x11-base/xorg-server, version 1.4.2, never got it to compile. On the beta of the new one now.

net-nds/openldap, forget why...

games-sports/xmoto, version 0.4.1 from a while ago.


what's in yours?
_________________
iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA

avatar: new version of logo - see topic 838248. Potentially still a WiP.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AllenJB
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 1283
Location: Ashford, Kent

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://trac.allenjb.me.uk/overlay - I used to manage it manually, but since I've put it in subversion, it's become much easier to manage because I can safely delete the packages I'm not interested in or have no use for any more and still be able to recover them if I want. It's also easier to share it between all my machines (2 laptops, 2 pc's (1 of which is a xen host), 2(+) xen guests and a xen server). Making it public was a logical small step, since I was publishing many of the packages on my website anyway (I do push the ones I believe are suitable into bugzilla, but many of them are custom patches or development branches which would never make it into the main tree).
_________________
http://gentoo-wiki.com :: http://lug.org.uk :: http://www.linux.org/groups/ :: User Blogs
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
node_one
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 165

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bazaar overlay, local, with ebuilds from/for Bugzilla. Most are maintainer-wanted/needed.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveb
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 18 Sep 2002
Posts: 4564

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way, way to much stuff:
Code:
# find /mnt/gentoo.overlay/ -name "*.ebuild" | wc -l
444
#
Code:
# find /mnt/gentoo.overlay/ -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 2 -type d | wc -l
236
#

Most stuff is own made ebuilds not found in Portage or any overlay.

// SteveB
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
skellr
l33t
l33t


Joined: 18 Jun 2005
Posts: 706
Location: The Village

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

junk wrote:
warzone2100-9999.ebuild
foldingathome-6.0.2.ebuild
e_modules-tiling-9999.ebuild
mozilla-launcher-6.9.ebuild (empty ebuild for "providing")
physfs-1.0.0.ebuild


steveb wrote:
Way, way to much stuff

Sweet. ;)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bunder
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Apr 2004
Posts: 5213

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

merged into an existing thread.
_________________
goodbye fgo. it was nice knowing you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Gentoo Chat All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum