~CONRAD~ Stage 3 on 87 "Drei/Tres/3" INSTALL DOC | REL: #4.1

StifflerStealth · l33t Joined: 03 Jul 2002 Posts: 954

Very nice guide. I had the issue where some perl add-ons were blocking perl, but I was able to solve them. I disabled berkdb completely since it's being removed from mysql anyways, so I removed it from everything.

Anyways, I agree with you about starting from stage 1. That's the only way that I install.

The way I installed it was using:
USE="-* nptl nptlonly" emerge system
Then rerunning that everything portage screwed up the merge order because it's dependency resolution just sucks.

Then once that is done, I have all the use flags I want and do a sync, then:
CONFIG_PROTECT="-*" emerge --with-bdeps y -uDN world
Everything pretty much compiles nicely. This is a fresh install so unprotecting all the config areas makes less update, especially updating baselayout 1.x to 2.x. Config protection isn't needed anyways. It's only needed for a running system when the config file will have been changed to the users needs.

Oh, I masked off glibc 2.8. I will use that when it's at beta or RC level.

Something I would love to see in this guide, an optional path for the bootstrap and system build: using paludis/pkgcore instead of portage. The dependency handling should be loads better with those. Portage just didn't get the order right at all. Portage is useless to install a new system.
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cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1551

Sorry guys i'm working on the new guide still.

I'm done writing it now, still need to upload the overlay/configs though.

I've been so busy with work lately and kernel development it has made it difficult.

But i am making some nice improvements to it, it will be ready very soon.

*EDIT*
Oh, and btw i've been playing with reiser4 and lzo compression, the mkfs.reiser4 command will get substituted by mkfs.reiser4 -o create=ccreg40,compress=lzo1,compressMode=conv /dev/sdax in the next guide.

LZO compression is AMAZING on reiser4, just a rough restimate, if you have 30gb of data, it will compress it down to about 12gb, without ANY performance loss. It's absolutely amazing.
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zyko · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:41 am Post subject:

Strowi · l33t Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 652 Location: Bonn

hi,

wouldn't it be easier to use sth. like this in step 6.1?

cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1551

Just in case nobody realized, R3 is up of the guide.

Will fix/add some more stuff.

I just tried oss 4.1 today and i must say i was thoroughly impressed, it has better driver support than alsa, is much cleaner than alsa (code-wise), the mixer is 1000x better than alsamixer (alsamixer is a joke versus ossxmix), and the sound quality has immensely improved on my SB (emu10k1).

It's really easy to setup too, just disable also in kernel, and make sound card support a module <M>, then emerge oss-devel (will be in conrad overlay), add it to runlevel and that's it. (also USE="oss" for applications)

Those who think of oss of the crappy kernel oss are totally mistaken, the old kernel os (3.8 afaik) has ancient drivers, doesnt play more than 1 sound at once, and it has no mixer.

Anyway, i gave it a shot and i'm very pleased, it's great. It has more drivers than alsa, and they are even newer than alsa drivers.
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whitesouls · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:30 am Post subject:

Great!! How abt the upgrade guide for the users whom installed previously?

Thanks..
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whitesouls · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:26 am Post subject:

whitesouls · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:36 am Post subject:

Since you are implementing the usage of oss, does this mean that I can safely remove my alsa stuffs like

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whitesouls · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:36 am Post subject:

Just to let you ppl now..

I was not able to compile oss4 onto zen-sources 2.6.26 and mailed them for support. I was given this link to patch the kernel and build it after I've emerged oss4

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CooSee · Guru Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 414 Location: Berlin

please look here :!:

http://4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2772

CooSee ' Ya

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the.ant · n00b Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 64

I tried to follow your guide, but the conrad-bootstrap.sh died while compiling gcc.

cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1551

sorry, i've been extremely busy with work and stuff around the house i haven't been online really in the past couple days, and actually the upgrade is coming soon, i just havent been around to do it.

Anyway, I need to test this myself and i'll fix the error, i'll begin to setup the environment and get to it

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cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1551

Well, apparantly what we have to do is now gcc-4.1.2 is screwed up (which is 2008.0 tarball/funtoo tarball default now), anyway, we have to build gcc 4.2.2 first, not 4.2.3/4, i tried and they both failed.

Anyway, the problem with that is that gcc 4.2.2 is no longer in portage, i digged up the patches for 4.2.2 and what not, and i'm building it now prior to a bootstrap test, which should fix the problem (a rather annoying workaround)

There's a patch for 4.1.2 available, if we could get it in portage and the new funtoo tarballs would include a gcc-4.1.2-r1 or something with the patch we'd be in good shape.

(also i could disable the -Wno-overlength* and make a simple overlay for gcc 4.2.4 with the patch before we bootstrap)
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Brix · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject:

I'm currently following the conrad guide using the official 2008.0 stage1.

Using amd64 chost one will have to emerge glibc before running the bootstrap script or it will fail.

Also do an "emerge system" before installing layman/git or their dependencies might fail to build.

I did have a few circular dependencies but they were easy to fix.

About to build the kernel now.

cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1551

Ok, the -Wno-overlength-strings should occur no matter what, on either arch (x86 or x86_64)

Anyway, i devised a patch to remove the warning flag (-Wno-overlength-strings), i'm still testing to make sure everything works as i haven't bootstrapped, i just did USE="-* build" emerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4, the dilemma is that i think the patch will work on gcc 4.3.1, and i think what we would do is:
1) Get the conrad overlay (as already explained)
2) have a separate /usr/local/portage/gcc directory
3) and what we'd do is USE="-* build" emerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r9, then we should change profiles, and remove the old gcc
4) remove the special gcc overlay
5) run bootstrap

Anyways, i'm still ironing it out right now (my own tests), for x86

Once i confirm it works on x86, i would then make proper adjustments to fix the guide (the _real_ fix we need is for gentoo to make gcc 4.2* or 4.3* stable, or to apply the wno-overlength-strings patch on gcc 4.1.2 so the few bootstrappers can actually upgrade the toolkit during the bootstrap (but they won't)

The steps above may get switched, revised, etc. it all depends on my testing, if you look at the guide now you'll see it now uses funtoo tarballs and some other things, any way it's not usable ATM, for whatever reason 2008.0 killed us.

Anyway, the upgrade to gcc 4.3.1 _before_ the boostrap is a pretty significant change which will bump it to REL3.1, it will allow us to use -march=native in make.conf.
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cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1551

Ok, the guide is good to go now!

We are now using funtoo tarballs, and we do gcc 4.3.1 before bootstrap with the overlay i uploaded

Now Fixed:
(during bootstrap)

the.ant · n00b Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 64

Thanks, I will give it a try right away.