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eee Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 115 Location: MD
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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forceflow2 wrote: | I looked around and I can't seem to find a notebook like that anywhere. I think at this moment only notebooks sporting the Centrino label have these things, and therefore they have the wireless lan card. |
I've got a dell 600m with the truemobile mini-pci card. I'm not actually using it (I purchased a Netgear pcmcia card), but at least there's some hope with the new broadcom drivers. I'm quite happy to have a Pentium-M without bothering with Intel's silly wlan card.
Quite frankly I'd recommend doing this (and telling your friends as well) rather than signing the petition. I doubt Intel will care about the petition, but they'll mind if they start losing money. Then again, if their bottom line was impacted, they'd probably sue Dell to stop using the Centrino label unless it's got the proprietary Intel wlan. Silly corporations. |
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forceflow2 Guru
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 464 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:17 am Post subject: |
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eee wrote: | forceflow2 wrote: | I looked around and I can't seem to find a notebook like that anywhere. I think at this moment only notebooks sporting the Centrino label have these things, and therefore they have the wireless lan card. |
I've got a dell 600m with the truemobile mini-pci card. I'm not actually using it (I purchased a Netgear pcmcia card), but at least there's some hope with the new broadcom drivers. I'm quite happy to have a Pentium-M without bothering with Intel's silly wlan card.
Quite frankly I'd recommend doing this (and telling your friends as well) rather than signing the petition. I doubt Intel will care about the petition, but they'll mind if they start losing money. Then again, if their bottom line was impacted, they'd probably sue Dell to stop using the Centrino label unless it's got the proprietary Intel wlan. Silly corporations. |
Wow, I'm surprised they haven't done that already. Intel has stated to me in E-Mails that Centrino meant that the Wireless Lan was part of the laptop. Wonder if they know/care. _________________ That rank under my username doesn't mean I know everything, it just means I ask a lot of questions. |
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eee Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 115 Location: MD
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jecosgrove n00b
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:30 am Post subject: |
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There is also a petition up for Broadcom. The Dell Truemobil 1300s do not function, and Broadcom has not released any info for drivers.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/BCM4301/ |
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araemo n00b
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 47
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:16 pm Post subject: Centrino without the Wlan |
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I just bought a Compaq X1000 series build-to-order model, you can order them without the wireless card(Saves like $50 off the price.. which is about what cheap 802.11b cards are going for these days... but I couldn't tell which 'cheap' 802.11b cards are supported under linux.. the big name companies don't print the chipsets on the boxes or on their websites.. and I can't find a collection of product #s that are known to contain linux-compatible chipsets.)
I don't really need the wireless internet yet, so I'm willing to sit tight until either drivers are available for the centrino card, or until I can buy myself a pair of cards and set up a home wireless linux AP.
Unfortunately, it hasn't arrived yet so I can't report on the linux-compatibility of the rest of it. |
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mozingod n00b
Joined: 15 Jun 2003 Posts: 64 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Signed #1355.
A hopeful future Centrino owner... |
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mb Guru
Joined: 25 Apr 2002 Posts: 355 Location: Hessen | .de
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smiler.se Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 115 Location: Sweden - Europe - Earth
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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<---- #1594
Im an otherwise happy Acer TM 800LCi owner _________________ Christian
Sig out of date. Please upgrade to a newer one. |
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kitano Apprentice
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 228 Location: Munich, Germany, Europe, Earth
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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1596 yesssss!
done, non centrino owner, if at all, i'd by a pentium M... _________________ ->searched for a gentoo penguin ->alienated it with "find edges", "saturation", "photocopy" ->encoded quicktime from still ->played with aaxine ->screenshotted ->made it my avatar
only in case you were going to ask what it is... |
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IntergalacticWalrus Guru
Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 513 Location: Montreal QC (Canada)
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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#1597.
I don't own a Centrino laptop and I don't personally know anyone who does, but as a Linux user, any petition about Linux support on hardware is worth signing. |
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Rian S n00b
Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 2:07 am Post subject: |
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I signed a while ago before I found this posting |
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andrewfu n00b
Joined: 23 Aug 2003 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I was in another forum and saw this posting:
"Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Technical Support.
Intel(R) Centrino(TM) Mobile Technology driver development being scoped. Expect needed drivers first half 2004, if not sooner.
Sincerely,
Carlos B.
Intel(R) Technical Support" |
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nin_freak_ Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 12:34 am Post subject: |
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done.
and started some threads for it in other forums |
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gorjusborg n00b
Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:58 pm Post subject: Just buy an IBM Thinkpad |
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"Centrino" is not a processor, it is a chipset. In order to be considered a Centrino the machine must use a specific Intel processor (Pentium M), a specific Intel bridge (dunno the P/N), and finally the new power conserving wireless card they just came out with (not sure about the P/N here either).
Intel is not releasing specs for the wireless chip because (this is rumor) it would potentially give people the ability to violate radio transmission strength guidelines set by the FCC (and communications authorities in other countries).
I bought an IBM thinkpad X31 for this reason. They let you have a 'Centrino' without the Intel wireless card, and give you the option to get a Cisco Aironet 350 mini-PCI card installed instead. You'd never know the difference from the outside (these are internal cards) but the Aironet chip is supported in Linux.
Hope this info is helpful for those considering buying laptops. |
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MADcow l33t
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 742 Location: RIT (Henrietta, New York, United States)
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:57 am Post subject: |
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forceflow2 Guru
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 464 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 5:38 am Post subject: |
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andrewfu wrote: | I was in another forum and saw this posting:
"Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Technical Support.
Intel(R) Centrino(TM) Mobile Technology driver development being scoped. Expect needed drivers first half 2004, if not sooner.
Sincerely,
Carlos B.
Intel(R) Technical Support" |
You are absolutely correct about this. (dunno if they just posted what they got from me or if it was me. If it was futuremark then it was me but I digress) I sent an E-Mail to Intel and they replied with exactly what is posted above. Although continued signing of the petition is encouraged. I would like to see the drivers before deciding that there is no point in signing anymore. Thank you all for supporting this. _________________ That rank under my username doesn't mean I know everything, it just means I ask a lot of questions. |
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krunk Guru
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Posts: 316
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:50 am Post subject: |
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done. |
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hulk2nd Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 512 Location: Freiburg, Germany
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yokem55 Guru
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 360 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Another place to get a Pentium M notebook sans intel wireless (and sans Windows!!!!) is rjtech.com. The hd5000 model they are selling is actually the same compaq x1000 mentioned above. They are both manufactured by the taiwanese odm Compal. I've also found a mini-pci 80211g card that uses an intersil chipset that supposedly has drivers for linux for it. I won't be trying that out though for a bit since this lappy set me back a bit. |
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piviul n00b
Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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done.
Piviul |
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ParsEmAll n00b
Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 6 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:09 am Post subject: http://www.petitiononline.com/xanthan/petition.html |
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done #5288
happy to have an IBM Thinkpad X31 running gentoo Linux |
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licor n00b
Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 36
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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done #5474
planning on buying centrino based sony z1 or dell 8600.. any sugestions or recomendations are welcome. |
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hulk2nd Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 512 Location: Freiburg, Germany
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H-Dragon Guru
Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 547
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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signed #5489 _________________ WEBSITE
Do not meddle with the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and tasty with ketchup! |
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mb777 n00b
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:09 am Post subject: |
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signed #5493 |
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