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dberkholz
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 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: [NEWS] OpenRC and baselayout 2 will reach ~arch soon |
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This forums thread is for discussion of the www.gentoo.org posting, "OpenRC and baselayout 2 will reach ~arch soon." Post your comments and suggestions here.
| Quote: | OpenRC, the replacement for Gentoo's current services system (known as baselayout), will soon reach ~arch on all platforms. It replaces the previous bash-only rc system in baselayout with an rc system that has a C-based core and uses only POSIX-compliant shell code.
OpenRC runs natively on a wide variety of systems. Out of the box, it's compatible with Gentoo Linux, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Embedded Gentoo, and Gentoo VServers. It also works with FreeBSD and NetBSD and, once some installation problems get fixed, will be added to their package repositories, ports and pkgsrc.
Before upgrading, read the OpenRC Migration Guide so you update your system properly once OpenRC and baselayout 2 are installed. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: |
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OpenRC is not yet in pkgsrc or ports 
I'll be putting it into pkgsrc-wip myself (hopefully next week) after a few installation issues have been ironed out. Same issues affecting me not requesting it in FreeBSD ports either.
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Hwoarang
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I ve emerged baselayout-2.0. Everything works perfect and the boot sequence is so much faster
Great Job
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Me too. Good job and nice howto
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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moved some posts to openrc support thread
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Since the article states that OpenRC is the new standard, will all new installations have baselayout-2 and OpenRC by default? Is it something that is part of the stage tarball, or the installation medium? Meaning, will it be the default for the 2007.0 releases, or will it be included in the 2008.0 releases / new stage tarballs?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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i wanna know that too, if it's in future a standard. For me Baselayout-2 and openRC works fine  |
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Dralnu
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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So, OpenRC is basically a version of baselayout done in C rather than bash?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Dralnu wrote: | | So, OpenRC is basically a version of baselayout done in C rather than bash? |
Did you bother to read the guide before asking the question? To sum up, no.
Just like any other package, OpenRC and baselayout-2.x will have to be marked stable before they'd become part of the system.
For the record, 2007.0 was a long time ago, and I don't think it'll be in 2008.0 final, as it's not even unmasked yet, let alone stabilized.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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might give these two a shot once i gets marked ~amd64. It's about time we got a replacement for the old baselayout. Is it possible to revert back if something doesn't work?
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
I've just synced and OpenRC and baselayout-2 have hit the tree (~amd64 here). It took me five minutes to merge the changes, rebooted and everything is working fine. 
Thank you.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
great HOWTO - takes 5 Min. to work ..... (~x86)
I use rc_parallel="YES" in /etc/rc.conf --> after initializing the kernel my Xserver starts immediately ... WOW the fastet boot
I've ever see!
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2welly
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| that's right, my system start runs fast and smooth on ~amd64. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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running smoothly since 2.0 was masked and the info was just some lines on IRC
but the speed is amazing
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Great improvement. Thanks a lot to everyone involved. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Please don't post support questions here. Everything support related should go here.
Posts from people that insist posting support questions in this thread will be dustbinned.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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It seems to work fine here. But be warned, it will delete you /etc/conf.d/net file. 
Good, that I had a backup.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| kostja wrote: | It seems to work fine here. But be warned, it will delete you /etc/conf.d/net file.
Good, that I had a backup. |
oh yes it does. luckily i didn't just reboot after finishing dispatch-conf. i had a backup buried somewhere too. would have been a pain in the a** to set up pppoe/inet again, without beeing able to look it up in the inet. the net.example file was also moved... |
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Working great here. One quick question ( I don't think this is a "support" question but someone correct me if I'm wrong) On my x86 machine it backed up my net configuration as net.save, but it didn't do this on my amd64 box. Does anyone know of why this behavior would occur?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| i am already using openrc in multiple vservers. it runs perfect |
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my migration was successful although the boot time isn't that much different.
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uzz75
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: |
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There is no splash after upgrade....
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| <3 wrote: | | my migration was successful although the boot time isn't that much different. |
I feel exactly the same. I really wonder what all the noise is about. This just confirms what we all already know: the placebo effect do exist.  Or maybe it is just that you only notice some improvement if your boot time is >3 minutes or so.
I can't say if it's indeed faster or slower, but whatever it is, it's nothing radical like some people around says. Maybe people using xdm will notice something... I don't know since I boot on command line. Just a guess.
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Paapaa
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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How about some actual boot time results? Like in seconds? (Of course verifying that same services are started...)
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uzz75
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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baselayout-1 ; no parallel : 82 sec.
baselayout-1 ; parallel : 70 sec.
baselayout-2;parallel : 56 sec.
I have sda2,sda3,sdb1 on reiserfs and it's take a lot of time during the boot sequence.(from grub about 30sec)
kernel just need about 10sec for load itself, detect all HW and just passe to init script.(from grub 10sec)
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also i use readahead but it don't improve a lot of time before gdm will start, the benefit is after readahead start everything it's faster, login via gdm it's also fast, drawing of gnome desktop have some improvement from readahead becase many lib and file are just in cache.
grub and kernel load to init : 11 sec
init to finish fsck 26 sec
fsck to finish readehaed 10 sec
readahead to gdm 11 sec
gdm to loging and finish draw desktop about 1-2 sec
rc-update show boot
fsck | boot
mtab | boot
root | boot
swap | boot
keymaps | boot
dmcrypt | boot
microcode_ctl | boot
localmount | boot
consolefont | boot
modules | boot
hostname | boot
net.lo | boot
procfs | boot
sysctl | boot
urandom | boot
termencoding | boot
readahead-list-early | boot
hwclock | boot
bootmisc | boot
device-mapper | boot
readahead-list | boot
uzzmaster ~ # rc-update show default
nfs | default
tor | default
xdm | default
xfs | default
ntp-client | default
hald | default
sshd | default
keymaps | default
distccd | default
acpid | default
dhcpd | default
cupsd | default
knock | default
local | default
named | default
mysql | default
samba | default
ulogd | default
fail2ban | default
vixie-cron | default
iptables | default
syslog-ng | default
courier-imapd-ssl | default
lm_sensors | default
consolekit | default
esound | default
courier-authlib | default
hdparm | default
net.eth0 | default
hddtemp | default
smartd | default
svscan | default
netmount | default
vmware | default
numlock | default
apache2 | default
apcupsd | default
cpufrequtils | default
bluetooth | default
portmap | default
alsasound | default
privoxy | default
mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/root on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
rc-svcdir on /lib64/rc/init.d type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw,noatime)
/dev/sda3 on /home type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/dati type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
none on /var/tmp/portage type tmpfs (rw,size=1024M,uid=250,gid=250)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /proc/fs/vmblock/mountPoint type vmblock (rw)
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