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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paapaa wrote:
Stupid question, but:

Will my old baselayout get updated automatically when baselayout-2 reaches stable?


yes, unless you add it manually to packages.mask
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paapaa wrote:
Stupid question, but:

Will my old baselayout get updated automatically when baselayout-2 reaches stable?


Yes, but you will need to do the "hand" step.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dagger wrote:

btw, how many of you enabled rc_parallel="YES"?


Enabled here on all my boxes. However, I haven't done any benchmarking.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uzz75 wrote:
Paapaa wrote:
Stupid question, but:

Will my old baselayout get updated automatically when baselayout-2 reaches stable?


Yes, but you will need to do the "hand" step.


There will be a news on the frontpage about this migration, just to be sure that the users upgrade this package properly.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

d2_racing wrote:
uzz75 wrote:
Yes, but you will need to do the "hand" step.


There will be a news on the frontpage about this migration, just to be sure that the users upgrade this package properly.

Is there a guide anywhere (sorry if this is obvious) with the recommended procedure? It'd be cool to do this in /etc/warning for update so it would be temp masked until the user told it to run the upgrade procedure (followed by reboot.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightmorph wrote:
You should have bothered to read the first post of this thread (and pretty much every other post in it), the front page announcement on gentoo.org, and the April GMN, as they all reference the same guide.

Thanks for the info if not the tone.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dagger wrote:
btw, how many of you enabled rc_parallel="YES"?
I've tried it, but when shutting down/rebooting it often stops the network before umounting the network drives (NFS), which hangs the machine... so I disabled it again.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accidental upgrade on an amd64 (with baselayout ~amd64 - apparently %) ) here:
I dusted off a machine that has been sitting in a wardrobe for a couple of months, and ran emerge -uvDN system. Had a couple of wrinkles to smooth out (an old orphaned libstdc++ in /lib killed lzma). Ran etc-update and rebooted.

Only then did I notice OpenRC. Didn't realize it had eaten net.eth0 at first - but I recreated the symlink - and up it went. It wasn't until I noticed it had reverted to nano as $EDITOR, and I started digging into the configs that I realized it was a major upgrade.

No stupid unnecessary breakage here. I'd say this seems very well done upgrade! :)
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone tell when (approximately) will openrc hit stable? I ask because I would really like to see it on the new install cd that developers are preparing. If that doesn't happen we will have to go through this openrc migration guide with every new install... and we know that for new install media we have to wait... another year or so... I saw that livecd-tools does not work with openrc, I just hope there will be beta3, 4, 5... until this is ready.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just installed baselayout-2 and the transition seemed to go fine! There was a problem on the first reboot (with rc_parallel set to "yes") where the system hung after restoring alsa mixer levels, but a hard reset followed by an interactive boot seemed to fix the problem. I have since set rc_parallel to "no" and everything's ok, although that GDM pid error has returned on shutdown. :?
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Migration went fine.
And cherry on the cake : grub to kdm, from 33s to 28,5 s.
Parallel rc boot doesn't reduce timing, so I guess my harddisk bottleneck is hit.

Good job Roy.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, everyone that use OpenRC see that the boot time is reduce :)

Good job Roy !
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thread splitted: XML discussion moved into a new thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-691978.html

EDITED: Erased a duplicated post. Please, continue the XML stuff in the other thread only.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, OpenRC 0.2.4 is up. Remember to run etc-update as the network management scripts changed a bit. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

having emerge not protect /etc/env.d/ by default is probably a bad idea, especially since we're now supposed to edit config files in there (90xsession) that get overwritten without asking with every update. :evil:

that or ebuilds that put stuff in /etc/env.d/ that has to be edited by the user, should come with a logic that does not overwrite it if it already exists. Although that's a stupid solution.

so far after switching to ~arch / baselayout-2 / openrc this is the only issue that came up, and it's a minor one. so good work 8)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[b][b]Dont do openRC on a reiser4 root fs [/b][/b]

Installing openRC on a reiser4 system will prevent if from booting. This has been known for 8 months but is still broken :bug #195988

It's marked as fixed but ain't . Some seem to find closing a bug easier than fixing it.

If you dont want a totally fscked up system don't do it.

See the support thread first.

And by the way why the hell isn't there a warning at the top of this thread?

Please add one.

Otherwise a very nice guide . Sadly that one omission has cost me a day digging around and it ain't fixed yet. Please add a note in a promenant place.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, too bad if that's really still not fixed. But seeing reiser4 still not inside the vanilla kernel (or any other one officially supported by Gentoo), such a warning should really be placed in the reiser4 support thread first. Would be nice here too, but it will only get important when reiser4 finally hits vanilla- or gentoo-sources (I hope it does in the not-too-far future...).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it should be here !!

It is reiser4progs , a PORTAGE package that has a non std hack by gentoo devs , that is causing the problem.

This is an issue which comes up using openRC and this thread should carry a warning. I needed to know this before this migratation , not when I try to reboot and find my system fscked by the changes.

That's the whole point of this guide, surely.


As for the "if this is not fixed" comment , I did not make this all up because I had nothing to do for the day and thought this would be a cool way to waste a day of my life. Apparently this is Vapier's idea of "resolved:fixed" which seems to rely on committing patches without testing them. :roll:

I'm not sure kernelOfTruth's patch is the final answer but it got me my system back. Thx kot.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentree wrote:
[b][b]Dont do openRC on a reiser4 root fs [/b][/b]

I'm running reiser4 on / with sys-apps/openrc-0.2.5, linux-2.6.25-reiser4-r7 (patched linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r7), sys-fs/reiser4progs-1.0.6-r1 and rc_parallel="NO"
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise fwom youa gwave! Reply with quote

Just upgraded today. Between this and KMS, my laptop boots up in no time. I think it now spends more time counting the RAM than it does booting Gentoo. :lol:

The upgrade also showed me how much crud I had on my system. I can't believe I still had 915resolution installed! :oops:

Can't wait for this to hit stable.
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