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dberkholz Retired Dev
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1008 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: [NEWS] 2008.0_beta1 unleashed. No joke. |
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This forums thread is for discussion of the www.gentoo.org posting, "2008.0_beta1 unleashed. No joke." Post your comments and suggestions here.
Quote: | When we said "soon," even we didn't realize how soon it would be. 2008.0_beta1 is here. Your support and enthusiasm are greatly appreciated—thank you.
You can help make 2008.0 amazing! Test out this beta and report any functionality issues you encounter. Since this is the first beta, we're looking only for bugs in functionality, not bugs in appearance such as desktop backgrounds or other artwork. We expect to release a second beta once your testing has helped us fix problems with this first beta.
A migration to RPM was carefully considered again for this release, but in the end we decided to wait for the few remaining RPM-using distributions to migrate to the superior packaging format of ebuilds.
Get 2008.0_beta1 from the usual places. |
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VinzC Watchman
Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 5098 Location: Dark side of the mood
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Geez! Can't wait for the release!
EDIT: First off- No bootsplash (yup, I miss terribly these little eye-candies )
- No keymap selection - had to loadkeys manually.
Tested against Athlon Amd 64. No issue.
I'm just excited about how 2008.0 bootsplash will look like. Gentoo's are improving and are impressive each release. I expect the next one to knock my socks off . _________________ Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
1739!
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d2_racing Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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praka123 Apprentice
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VinzC Watchman
Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 5098 Location: Dark side of the mood
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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dmesg | grep Processor: | Processor #0 (Bootup-CPU)
ACPI Exception (processor_core-0821): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] |
Hell! The CPU not found gag
Code: | * Unpacking hotplug firmware ... [ ok ]
Can't write to '/etc/sysconfig/netcard': No such file or directory
Can't write to '/etc/sysconfig/netcard': No such file or directory
Can't write to '/etc/sysconfig/mouse': No such file or directory
Can't write to '/etc/sysconfig/mouse': No such file or directory
Can't write to '/etc/sysconfig/mouse': No such file or directory
Can't write to '/etc/sysconfig/sound': No such file or directory
Can't write to '/etc/sysconfig/xserver': No such file or directory
* Not Loading APM Bios support ... |
What's that /etc/sysconfig/ doing there? _________________ Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
1739!
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gmtongar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Kristiansand, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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my SATA drives (during boot) were identified as HDA (not SDA) ...
gmtongar _________________ "Did you understand the music, Yoko. Or was it all in vain" - r.waters |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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VinzC, gmtongar: Please file appropriate bugs. |
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gmtongar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Kristiansand, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: [NEWS] 2008.0_beta1 unleashed. No joke. |
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dberkholz wrote: | This forums thread is for discussion of the www.gentoo.org posting, "2008.0_beta1 unleashed. No joke." Post your comments and suggestions here.
Quote: | When we said "soon," even we didn't realize how soon it would be. 2008.0_beta1 is here. Your support and enthusiasm are greatly appreciated—thank you.
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My intention is not to be bitching... but...
Is it possible the release was too soon?
gmtongar _________________ "Did you understand the music, Yoko. Or was it all in vain" - r.waters |
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wolf31o2 Retired Dev
Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 628 Location: Mountain View, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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File bugs, please. Release Engineering will NOT be searching the forums for this stuff. If it isn't in a bug report, it won't get to us and it WILL NOT get fixed. _________________ Ex-Gentoo Developer
Catalyst/Genkernel Development Lead
http://wolf31o2.org |
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agaffney Retired Dev
Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 104 Location: St. Charles, MO
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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This thread (or any thread) will not be monitored for issues that people are having. If you run into an issue with the 2008.0_beta1 media, file a bug in our bugzilla here. That is the only place they will be seen. |
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VinzC Watchman
Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 5098 Location: Dark side of the mood
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Should we file a bug with everything we have noticed each or one bug per issue? _________________ Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
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gmtongar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Kristiansand, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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sorry, guys... the bug has already been filed...
Just felt like complaining... I was looking forward for this release ... and of course felt a bit disappointed ...
gmtongard _________________ "Did you understand the music, Yoko. Or was it all in vain" - r.waters |
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agaffney Retired Dev
Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 104 Location: St. Charles, MO
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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gmtongar wrote: | Just felt like complaining... I was looking forward for this release ... and of course felt a bit disappointed ... |
It's a beta release. What were you expecting? |
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gmtongar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Kristiansand, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Filed bugs for missing SDA identification during boot, and filed bug for missing 2008.0 profile
gmtongard _________________ "Did you understand the music, Yoko. Or was it all in vain" - r.waters |
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gmtongar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Kristiansand, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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agaffney wrote: | gmtongar wrote: | Just felt like complaining... I was looking forward for this release ... and of course felt a bit disappointed ... |
It's a beta release. What were you expecting? |
Well, as you raise the question, I do think a valid 2008.0 profile could be expected even for a beta release. I think that could be fair. But on the other hand, I am not a developer, so my expectations could of course be out of bounce.. or sync... or whatever.
I know you're working hard on this. Still, I think it was right to give this feedback. If you feel I was out of line, I will of course apologize.
gmtongar _________________ "Did you understand the music, Yoko. Or was it all in vain" - r.waters |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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gmtongar wrote: | agaffney wrote: | gmtongar wrote: | Just felt like complaining... I was looking forward for this release ... and of course felt a bit disappointed ... |
It's a beta release. What were you expecting? |
Well, as you raise the question, I do think a valid 2008.0 profile could be expected even for a beta release. I think that could be fair. But on the other hand, I am not a developer, so my expectations could of course be out of bounce.. or sync... or whatever.
I know you're working hard on this. Still, I think it was right to give this feedback. If you feel I was out of line, I will of course apologize.
gmtongar |
Profiles have been committed some minutes ago. |
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Dirk.R.Gently Guru
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 546 Location: Titan
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Is ppc (32 bit) support being dropped? _________________ • Helpful Linux Tidbits |
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gmtongar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Kristiansand, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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V-Li wrote: | gmtongar wrote: | agaffney wrote: | gmtongar wrote: | Just felt like complaining... I was looking forward for this release ... and of course felt a bit disappointed ... |
It's a beta release. What were you expecting? |
Well, as you raise the question, I do think a valid 2008.0 profile could be expected even for a beta release. I think that could be fair. But on the other hand, I am not a developer, so my expectations could of course be out of bounce.. or sync... or whatever.
I know you're working hard on this. Still, I think it was right to give this feedback. If you feel I was out of line, I will of course apologize.
gmtongar |
Profiles have been committed some minutes ago. |
Great !!
... and for any bitching, my apology ...
Not that it matters, but I ran first (earlier today) the 2007.0 minimal CD, switched to 2008.0_beta1 minimal CD, and started over from scratch, and at the emerge of gentoo-sources, realized there were no 2008.0-profile, tested one more time, same result, switched back to 2007.0 CD... As you probably can guess, things can get a bit heated under these circumstances ... But all is forgotten Looking forward to the real deal later on !!
gmtongar _________________ "Did you understand the music, Yoko. Or was it all in vain" - r.waters |
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dberkholz Retired Dev
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1008 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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gmtongar wrote: | Not that it matters, but I ran first (earlier today) the 2007.0 minimal CD, switched to 2008.0_beta1 minimal CD, and started over from scratch, and at the emerge of gentoo-sources, realized there were no 2008.0-profile, tested one more time, same result, switched back to 2007.0 CD... As you probably can guess, things can get a bit heated under these circumstances ... But all is forgotten Looking forward to the real deal later on !!
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If you grabbed it before we announced it, you get to keep the pieces.. |
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oglueck n00b
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Please keep USE flags! |
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Having USE flags is the very feature for which I use Gentoo. They reduce binary dependencies. It's silly of the LSB to require RPM as the package format (as well as the init scripts). Why does the LSB even care? This is something that should be left to the distro. We want our ebuilds. No RPM crap please - there is Ubuntu for those who love RPMs. ebuilds can handle RPM distributed files just well. No problem for Gentoo. |
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gmtongar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Kristiansand, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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dberkholz wrote: | gmtongar wrote: | Not that it matters, but I ran first (earlier today) the 2007.0 minimal CD, switched to 2008.0_beta1 minimal CD, and started over from scratch, and at the emerge of gentoo-sources, realized there were no 2008.0-profile, tested one more time, same result, switched back to 2007.0 CD... As you probably can guess, things can get a bit heated under these circumstances ... But all is forgotten Looking forward to the real deal later on !!
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If you grabbed it before we announced it, you get to keep the pieces.. |
Yeah, I know, I think I wrote something about that ... I know I'm just to blame for jumping the gun too soon, still, and correct me if I'm wrong (since were about the pieces... ) as the announcement went out, there were no 2008.0 profile.
gmtongar (and keeping the pieces ) _________________ "Did you understand the music, Yoko. Or was it all in vain" - r.waters |
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V-Li Retired Dev
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Please keep USE flags! |
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oglueck wrote: | Having USE flags is the very feature for which I use Gentoo. They reduce binary dependencies. It's silly of the LSB to require RPM as the package format (as well as the init scripts). Why does the LSB even care? This is something that should be left to the distro. We want our ebuilds. No RPM crap please - there is Ubuntu for those who love RPMs. ebuilds can handle RPM distributed files just well. No problem for Gentoo. |
Ubuntu does not use RPM. |
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V-Li Retired Dev
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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gmtongar wrote: | dberkholz wrote: | gmtongar wrote: | Not that it matters, but I ran first (earlier today) the 2007.0 minimal CD, switched to 2008.0_beta1 minimal CD, and started over from scratch, and at the emerge of gentoo-sources, realized there were no 2008.0-profile, tested one more time, same result, switched back to 2007.0 CD... As you probably can guess, things can get a bit heated under these circumstances ... But all is forgotten Looking forward to the real deal later on !!
gmtongar |
If you grabbed it before we announced it, you get to keep the pieces.. |
Yeah, I know, I think I wrote something about that ... I know I'm just to blame for jumping the gun too soon, still, and correct me if I'm wrong (since were about the pieces... ) as the announcement went out, there were no 2008.0 profile.
gmtongar (and keeping the pieces ) |
Your early announcements in that other NEWS thread were just counterproductive.../me grins it has bitten you. |
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kingLatency n00b
Joined: 28 Sep 2002 Posts: 61 Location: Amherst, MA
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Dirk.R.Gently wrote: | Is ppc (32 bit) support being dropped? |
Or perhaps PPC (32 bit) just isn't one of the architectures for the beta release. |
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dnadesign Apprentice
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Very funny... My blood started to boil when I read about the RPM format. Always keep forgetting about April's Fools Day.
As for the beta, no issues on my side for now. _________________ MacBook Pro 5.1
Intel C2D 2.53 GHz, 4GB RAM DDR3, GF 9400M and 9600M GT 512MB |
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