Gnome 2.22.0

mengzhao · n00b Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 13

Thanks for the big answer!

EvaSDK · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject:

no I'm sorry that's not our current policy. If the app is broken it must be package.masked if it's introduced in the tree or fixed asap for apps already in tree (if there is not a more recent version fixed already, ...)

If you want up to date apps so badly, I'm sure you'd be interested in setting up jhbuild on your machine to run stuff from gnome svn directly. Gentoo is often at the bleeding edge but please don't assume we must turn that into slaughter, thanks.

cwr · Veteran Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 1969

EvaSDK; please stick to the current policy, and don't unmask code that's known
to be unstable. If I want broken apps, I know where to find them... Gentoo's
portage works extremely well in this respect, and is really convenient.

Will

mengzhao · n00b Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 13

Thanks for clarify that point. I will learn how to build from svn. The reason I am dying to get gnome-2.22.0 is that it seems to properly handle the locale charset filename where KDE4 and gnome 2.20.x failed.

CosminG · Apprentice Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 166

xibo · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject:

gives me the impression that dev-libs/libsigc++ was so experimental it needs to be unmasked/keyworded twice ><

EvaSDK · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject:

you don't need to add those packages to package.keywords unless you are running stable (and so I would highly recommand to not move to 2.22 now anyway) or some package missing keywords for your arch (which might happen for arch != amd64/x86) in which case you'd have to wait until we fill keywording request bugs for each archs (and don't do that by yourself please it would only bring confusion, pain, ...).

CosminG · Apprentice Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 166

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jabol · Apprentice Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 269

I'm happy to see the packages for gnome 2.22 being slowly merged in

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Onip · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject:

@Laio
Thanks for your very helpful post

praka123 · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject:

thanks for the reply

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davehard · n00b Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 13

Yeah, as much as I'm looking forward to getting GNOME 2.22, I've set myself a challenge to see if I can hold off on upgrading until its marked stable x86

Knowing me I'll probably only make it to ~x86 lol.

EvaSDK · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:01 am Post subject:

phaseburn · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:48 am Post subject:

I've been running AMD64 (and priorly, x86) stable for years, though I've got a fairly large /etc/portage/package.unmask file for things like Gnome and other stuff.

It works fairly well for me, though your mileage may vary... Rest assured your laptop won't take off and fly to the moon, though, worst case is you'll have some work on your hands to get a usable Gnome again...

I'm going to be unmasking Gnome 2.22 very shortly at home and compiling it - I'm just waiting for an official gnome-base/gnome-2.22 ebuild to appear. When it does, it's upgrade time :-)

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Dirk.R.Gently · Guru Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 546 Location: Titan

http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/remi/2008/03/28/the_road_to_gnome_2_22_part_2

yes!

I'd wait for ~ but... :twisted:

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Leio · Developer Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Estonia

I have committed an initial meta ebuild for gnome-2.22.0...

What will definitely change before unmasking is dasher and gnome-mag dependencies increased to that of the 2.22 releases once they are in tree (USE=accessibility stuff) and swfdec-gnome added as something pulled in unconditionally once swfdec-0.6.2 is released upstream and added to portage together with swfdec-gnome-2.22.
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Leio · Developer Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Estonia

We are not forcing swfdec-mozilla on anyone. We are just including an official GNOME module in the meta packages, which is swfdec-gnome, not swfdec-mozilla. swfdec-gnome is a standalone .swf player, so you can play your flash games completely out of the browser, for example. You are free to choose where you get a .swf capable nsplugin. I choose swfdec-mozilla, you may choose something different.
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Leio · Developer Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Estonia

This is the "why do I have to have evolution or epiphany" argument all over again. It's an official GNOME module - you get it from the official GNOME meta package that reflects official GNOME modules as best as it can. We are conservative with USE flags on gnome-base/gnome right now by policy and if you don't want something, you should use gnome-light and add to that what you do want then.
That said, we are internally discussing how to improve on that in the ways you wish without sacrificing the default being a full GNOME experience without a big bunch of USE flags.

As for the alsa from swfdec, please file a bug

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EvaSDK · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject:

maybe you've noticed but it has been discussed for at least 1h30 on #gentoo-desktop this evening (CET) I'm not sure consensus has been reached and something that is probably endlessly debatable. But yes something will be published if we ever get ourselves to find a proper solution.

phaseburn · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject:

nightmorph, I feel your pain with the gnome vs gnome-light... My solution has always been to just remove the offending 2 or 3 parts from the gnome ebuild, rebuild the digest, and emerge it. Until I emerge an upgraded gnome ebuild, it doesn't bother me...

This way you get your full desktop, minus epiphany, and whatever else you feel like removing. Be prepared to dig through failed deps if you get too aggressive with that though.
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