New ati-drivers are out - Catalyst 8.2 (8.455.2)

Insanity5902 · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject:

Will do, I actually have better performance (lower cpu and same smoothness) with Textured2D and TexturedRender disabled.

Just my 2cents. Firefox is moving smoothly on my external screen with wobbly windows enabled. It didn't do that without it, or with Textured2D and TexturedXRender enabled.

Ironically. With or Without Textured2D and TexturedXRender, I get

Draco-LVNH · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject:

well, in that case i think that in your xorg.conf you have it as "TextureVideo" instead of "TexturedVideo", and it loads as default, check it out.

Insanity5902 · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject:

Good call, and I am seeing the Avivo information in the xvinfo, not sure if it was there before TexturedVideo or not.

After playing around with everything, here is what I currently ahve my Xorg.conf at, and it seems to work pretty well.

Draco-LVNH · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject:

Great, i am trying right now without the Backstore option and it works great too, i will leave it out for a while, i am on an Acer Aspire 5100, no external monitor, my card is Radeon Xpress 200M ( lspci = 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] ), at least we are having more descent ati-drivers !! we should buy a cake or a pie to celebrate it !!!

P.D. I am using the same options as Insanity5902 except the BusID, good luck people !!

gsra99 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 104

Thanks for that. I have turned off TexturedXrender now. Why didn't you go with the Option "DAMAGE" in the Extensions section as well? According to that forum article it is required for compiz-fusion to work.

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Insanity5902 · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject:

gr0x0rd · Guru Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 311

With 8.3 compiz still fails/locks up my X server on my X1900 (R580)... at this point I'm expecting the RadeonHD driver to support compiz on R5xx before fglrx now that ATI have released the 3D docs for the R500 and R600 series cards.

All releases past 8.40 also cause freezing/crashing/lockups with VLC. Shaking head...
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Aikidoka69 · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 42 Location: Baltimore, MD

I just finally got compiz running with 8.3. The funny thing is I cannot emerge the 8.3 in portage. It craps out eventually. I altered the 8.2 ebuild as soon as 8.3 was on the ATI site and used that. Weird. But I finally got compiz running on my 3650 with the following line:

Insanity5902 · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject:

@Aikidoka69, gr0x0rd:

Have yall tried using fusion-icon, it is a python panel applet that controls emerald and compiz and lets you switch between WM.

On mine I just selected Compiz for my WM and it selected inderect rendering for me, took care of everything else.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198365
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Aikidoka69 · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 42 Location: Baltimore, MD

I have not. I just found it mentioned earlier today in another post. I sent an e-mail to myself at home to remind me tonight.

gr0x0rd · Guru Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 311

I wish I had better news, but no dice. I tried installing the desktop-effects overlay and fusion-icon but I got the same result... as soon as I select the Compiz Fusion Icon menu item, my title bars disappear and X locks up.

I also tried Aikidoka69's command to start compiz, with no love. Same effect.

I guess I'm just going to have to suck it up until Ati release an fglrx driver that works for R5xx chipsets with compiz, or wait until the RadeonHD guys get it done... any bets on who'll be first?

Thanks for the ideas.

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Aikidoka69 · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 42 Location: Baltimore, MD

What's your xorg.conf like? I forget which options I used, but I can check when back on the Gentoo box.

I did run into one issue trying to emerge fusion-icon. It pulls in PyQt which requires qt-4.3 and I had 4.4 beta 1. Just stepped back one to get it installed and then redid 4.4. Haven't exited X though so I might have broken fusion-icon.

gr0x0rd · Guru Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 311

Here's my xorg.conf for s&g.

Aikidoka69 · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 42 Location: Baltimore, MD

I'll switch over to my Gentoo box and post the relevant sections of mine. I can tell you that if I have AIGLX set to on or true mine locks up tight. Without it on it still lists as being loaded though.

Aikidoka69 · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 42 Location: Baltimore, MD

I also have dri loaded.

gr0x0rd · Guru Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 311

Aikidoka69, thanks for posting your xorg.conf - I mirrored your settings and was able to get a bit farther than last time, at least. After running fusion-icon I can change a few settings and play around a bit without lockups, but as soon as I set my window manager to compiz, I lose my title bars and window borders. The nice thing about fusion-icon is I can set my WM back to metacity and get them back without having to ctrl-alt-bksp.

As soon as I set my window decorator to Emerald, however, I get a lockup.

Sadly I'm fairly certain this is an issue with the fglrx driver and R5xx chipsets- I've yet to see an instance of anyone with a chipset similar to mine (R580) that has gotten compiz working successfully with fglrx. I'm also scratching my head as to how you got things working without AIGLX enabled. I guess its using the glx module instead?

Does VLC work for you, by chance? Any fglrx driver past 8.40 seems to prevent VLC from working at all, and I've yet to find a xorg.conf configuration that will get VLC agreeing with newer versions of the fglrx driver. Hmm.

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Aikidoka69 · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 42 Location: Baltimore, MD

Don't know about why I couldn't set AIGLX to true. However the following appears in my xorg log. I don't think I ever tried not loading GLX and loading AIGLX. An interesting note.... I just checked the AIGLX gentoo wiki. It says to add AIGLX to the xorg.conf if it is available but disabled. I don't know why this would mean it runs without the keyword, but freezes with it. My card is a 3650 so I'm running the R635. Unfortunately my only other ATI card is a 3870 which is the R670. I don't think I have any R5xx cards. I'll have to check VLC.

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1008

Hi All:

I had to unmask ver 8.471.3 and emerge them to get google-earth to work and am now experiencing some X stability issues.
I looking for some tips on how to trouble shoot this. There is nothing in my /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old to help out here. All that is in the Xorg.0.old file is this:
(--) Synaptic Pad touchpad found
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0
SetClientVersion: 0 9
SetGrabKeysState - disabled
SetGrabKeysState - enabled
SetClientVersion: 0 9
SetGrabKeysState - disabled
SetGrabKeysState - enabled
xkb_types { include "%" };
xkb_compatibility { include "%" };
xkb_symbols { include "%" };
xkb_geometry { include "%" };
(EE) Error loading keymap /var/tmp/server-0.xkm
SetClientVersion: 0 9
SetGrabKeysState - disabled
SetGrabKeysState - enabled

Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x71) [0x48beb1]
1: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x2b1526a9a940]
2: /lib/libc.so.6(memcpy+0xd2) [0x2b1526ae0082]
3: [0x2b152bd36040]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting

Messages shows this:
Mar 20 15:06:17 jerinkturion vlc[15621] general protection rip:2b732c620552 rsp:430047b0 error:0

vlc was responsible.

Here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (its a bit messy):
erinkturion log # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

# File generated by xorgconfig.
#
# Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL
# The X.Org Foundation BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from
# The X.Org Foundation.
#
# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf(5x) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Other input device sections
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer
# to the xorg.conf man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "Mouse2"
# Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "MouseMan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball"
# Driver "magellan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball2"
# Driver "spaceorb"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen0"
# Driver "microtouch"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "1412"
# Option "MaxX" "15184"
# Option "MinY" "15372"
# Option "MaxY" "1230"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen1"
# Driver "elo2300"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "231"
# Option "MaxX" "3868"
# Option "MinY" "3858"
# Option "MaxY" "272"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonThreshold" "17"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
# Standard VGA Device:
# Device configured by xorgconfig:
# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens. The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.
# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".
Identifier "Simple Layout"
Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Synaptic Pad" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
#
# FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
# FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
# FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
# The module search path. The default path is shown here.
# ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetypemine/"
EndSection

Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.
# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
# This loads the font modules
# Load "type1"
# Load "speedo"
# This loads the GLX module
# Load "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
# Load "dri"
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
Load "freetype"
# Load "xtt"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.
# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"
# Option "LeftAlt" "Meta"
# Option "RightAlt" "ModeShift"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
# These are the default XKB settings for Xorg
# Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
# Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
# Option "XkbLayout" "us"
# Option "XkbVariant" ""
# Option "XkbOptions" ""
# Option "XkbDisable"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "kbd"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver
# the following line.
# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"
# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.
# Option "Resolution" "256"
# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.
# Option "BaudRate" "9600"
# Option "SampleRate" "150"
# Mouse wheel mapping. Default is to map vertical wheel to buttons 4 & 5,
# horizontal wheel to buttons 6 & 7. Change if your mouse has more than
# 3 buttons and you need to map the wheel to different button ids to avoid
# conflicts.
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" # IntelliMouse PS/2
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button mice
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
# Option "ChordMiddle"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptic Pad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Corepointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/misc/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "LeftEdge" "1900"
Option "RightEdge" "5400"
Option "TopEdge" "1900"
Option "BottomEdge" "4000"
Option "FingerLow" "25"
Option "FingerHigh" "30"
Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.02"
Option "MaxSpeed" "0.18"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.0010"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
Option "Buttons" "7"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
# HorizSync 30-64 # multisync
# HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies
# HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
Identifier "default"
HorizSync 31.5 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 90.0
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Panel"
HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 85.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.
# Chipset "generic"
# The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.
# BusID "PCI:0:10:0"
# VideoRam 256
# Clocks 25.2 28.3
Identifier "Standard VGA"
Driver "vga"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
EndSection

Section "Device"

#VideoRam 262144
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
Identifier "X1600"
Driver "vga"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AIGLX" "off"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "X1600"
Monitor "Panel"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
Modes "800x600" "1280x1024" "1400x1050" "1600x1050"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "800x600" "1280x1024" "1400x1050" "1600x1050"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "800x600" "1280x1024" "1400x1050" "1600x1050"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Cheers,
John

Insanity5902 · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject:

@groxord:

Try setting Composite to ON in the Extensions Secions, look at my xorg.conf for reference. Also, Try not using Testured2D and TexturedXRender at first, then enable one at a time. Both of these options requrie the Extension Render I believe.

@all:
At least put all config files in the code block. If it is a long file, try to use pastebin, it makes reading the file and the forums easier

http://pastebin.ca/950331
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gr0x0rd · Guru Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 311

@Insanity5902: I applied your suggestions and spent a few hours testing and benchmarking the driver using the settings you suggested. Sadly, I could not get compiz working under any configuration; the best I could muster was it not locking up X and having missing title bars and window borders.

Here is the optimum configuration based on my testing:

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1008

Hi All:

Had installed the masked latest and greatest in the portage tree but am now in the process of downgrading to 4.55.2-r1. WAY too many X crashes with moving video using 8.471.3.

Will tell if things improve.

Cheers,
john

Insanity5902 · Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject:

@gr0x0rd: So did compiz run, and emerald fail, or would compiz fail to run period?

If you use gnome, and just want a few of the special effects try metactiy 2.22, it is suppose to include some new eyecandy
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numerodix · l33t Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 743 Location: nl.eu

Suspend to ram AND disk works, as does chvt AND -vo xv. I'M BLOWN AWAY!

2.6.24-gentoo-r3, x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.455.2-r1

I'm never upgrading again.
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