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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: [NEWS] 2008.0 feature requests closed Reply with quote

This forums thread is for discussion of the www.gentoo.org posting, "2008.0 feature requests closed." Post your comments and suggestions here.

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We asked for your input a few weeks ago for the upcoming release.

To meet release schedule, the Release Engineering team has stopped seeking new requests. The team is now reviewing all the requests to decide which ones could make it into 2008.0.

Your feedback is still welcome. Just file a bug. If the Release Engineering team can do it easily, your suggestion has a good chance of being included.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the release schedule I assume that you guys will be looking for people to help test the beta after march 3rd.
Or is that no longer needed.

I would love to help :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we have a resume of the features that will be include in the new release ?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Unknown wrote:
Looking at the release schedule I assume that you guys will be looking for people to help test the beta after march 3rd.
Or is that no longer needed.

I would love to help :)


Yes, testers are always welcome. There are plans for what to test and what information to submit with your report, so stay tuned and read the gentoo-releng mailing list...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

d2_racing wrote:
Can we have a resume of the features that will be include in the new release ?


From the top of my head:
  • Kernel 2.6.24.*
  • KDE 3.5.8
  • Gnome 2.20 (LiveDVD)
  • Xfce 4.4.2 (on the LiveCD)
  • Some profile changes as USE=usb as default, developer profiles (not sure here)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-Li wrote:
From the top of my head:
  • Kernel 2.6.24.*
  • KDE 3.5.8
  • Gnome 2.20 (LiveDVD)
  • Xfce 4.4.2 (on the LiveCD)
  • Some profile changes as USE=usb as default, developer profiles (not sure here)


Is there going to be the usual small version (without all the X stuff)? Those are wonderful to keep in my "toolbox" to boot various machines to check/fix them.

Thanx,
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xanadu wrote:
V-Li wrote:
From the top of my head:
  • Kernel 2.6.24.*
  • KDE 3.5.8
  • Gnome 2.20 (LiveDVD)
  • Xfce 4.4.2 (on the LiveCD)
  • Some profile changes as USE=usb as default, developer profiles (not sure here)


Is there going to be the usual small version (without all the X stuff)? Those are wonderful to keep in my "toolbox" to boot various machines to check/fix them.


If you talk about the minimal CD...then yes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-Li wrote:
If you talk about the minimal CD...then yes.


Yes. I was having a major brain-fart when I was typing. I couldn't for-the-life-of-me think of the Gentoo for the minimal CD... :oops:

Thank you for the reply/info!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-Li wrote:
The Unknown wrote:
Looking at the release schedule I assume that you guys will be looking for people to help test the beta after march 3rd.
Or is that no longer needed.

I would love to help :)


Yes, testers are always welcome. There are plans for what to test and what information to submit with your report, so stay tuned and read the gentoo-releng mailing list...


I'm looking forward to testing. Will beta isos be out on http://torrents.gentoo.org/ ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm dying for the beta CD to get out, because I built a new box whose SATA controller isn't recognized by the 2007.0 CD. I could never figure out how to use the other LiveCD (Xubuntu GG) I have to work around it, so the baddest computer I've ever built has been a paperweight since last summer.

But that's backstory. The real thing is that - at least where I am - March 3 is quickly fading into oblivion, and I don't see anything about the new release, not on the releng list, either (most recent appears to be Feb 14th). I know I'm being whiny and all (sorry! geez!) but have any of the people who might have heard something about the release, like, heard something? Please tell me there's some scheduled release time (high noon at Muir Woods!) that would explain why it isn't out just yet. I think it's already tomorrow in Japan.

Okay, that's enough surrealism. Sorry; I'm tired.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ExecutorElassus wrote:
I'm dying for the beta CD to get out, because I built a new box whose SATA controller isn't recognized by the 2007.0 CD. I could never figure out how to use the other LiveCD (Xubuntu GG) I have to work around it, so the baddest computer I've ever built has been a paperweight since last summer.

But that's backstory. The real thing is that - at least where I am - March 3 is quickly fading into oblivion, and I don't see anything about the new release, not on the releng list, either (most recent appears to be Feb 14th). I know I'm being whiny and all (sorry! geez!) but have any of the people who might have heard something about the release, like, heard something? Please tell me there's some scheduled release time (high noon at Muir Woods!) that would explain why it isn't out just yet. I think it's already tomorrow in Japan.


I was just asking around about this the other day (to get a head jump on the announcement for when the beta is released). I was told that things were a few days behind, but that things were in good shape otherwise.

So, try not to die in anticipation :)

We will be announcing it when it is available, don't worry.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any word on when the 2.6.24 kernel will go stable? I'm assuming soon, based on this announcement. I can't seem to find the bug anymore that collects all open bugs on the new kernel.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207383
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any word on when the 2.6.24 kernel will go stable? I'm assuming soon, based on this announcement. I can't seem to find the bug anymore that collects all open bugs on the new kernel.


I would hope that it would not happen until most kernel-dependent applications catch up. I'm thinking specifically of video drivers such as nvidia. But there are probably quite a few others. No good getting the latest and greatest if the stable kernel doesn't support the features most people rely on.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark_alec wrote:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207383
Thanks! That was exactly what I was looking for. I don't know why I couldn't find it on bugzilla. It looks like most issues are pretty much resolved from the last time I looked.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ExecutorElassus wrote:
I'm dying for the beta CD to get out, because I built a new box whose SATA controller isn't recognized by the 2007.0 CD.

In the meantime you could try the System Rescue CD, which is Gentoo-based, and just had its 1.0.0 release: http://www.sysresccd.org/
The x86 CD also has a 64bits kernel, so you can use it to install an amd64 Gentoo stage3 and chroot into it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*advert* Or you could try kernelOfTruth's small-gentoo for amd64 r8 codename "full blown edition" ;) *advert*
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yngwin, you're my personal savior. The SysRescCD properly detected the RAID and ethernet hardware, so I could install gentoo onto the system (dang, it sure compiles fast... :wink:). I'm a few minutes from the first boot.

Thanks a ton for that link. That's just what I needed to lead me out of the long dark wilderness of ubuntu-on-my-underpowered-laptop.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you bothered to try nvidia-drivers with any of the .24 kernels? They're quite stable; I use the 64-bit drivers with .24-r3 on my workstation, and the 32-bit drivers on my laptop with .24-r2. As far as 3rd-party modules are concerned, nVidia is not an issue. That is, the stable drivers aren't. The ~arch drivers still have some issues independent of the kernel version


No, I have not tried them. Perhaps I should. I read in several forums, including NVnews, about compilation issues with the .24 kernel, so I stayed away. I can't remember if any were gentoo systems though. However, if 3rd party drivers are not an issue for this kernel, and it is otherwise stable, I suppose the original question stands. When will 2.6.24 go stable?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the project schedule has changed,
could the proper person update:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/20080123_releng_beta.xml
I'm really looking forward to testing.
Thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't yet found a stable .24 .config for my system - I've never encountered such problems before. dmesg still reports segfaults and after some time the system completely goes crazy. Seems there are still problems ahead.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnny99 wrote:
If the project schedule has changed,
could the proper person update:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/20080123_releng_beta.xml
I'm really looking forward to testing.
Thank you.


I agree with this. In the announcement dated January 23, 2008 (pointing to this thread) it says:

Donnie Berkholz wrote:
More news on the 2008.0 release will appear over the next few days.


And that's all that's been said. We're now a week past release and as far as I know there haven't even been betas out. I really hope this doesn't fall down like 2007.1 did.

Just to be clear, my faith in Gentoo has not wavered at all. After running Gentoo on a test machine for a few months, I installed Gentoo on my main machine (which had been running Mandrake for a couple years) on October 10 of 2002 and haven't looked back (I know the exact date because of timestamps on some old files I keep around for this purpose). FIVE different machines with two different hda's. Same install I did on 10-10-02, no problems. I have no intention of leaving Gentoo.

It would just be really nice to have a new Minimal CD to put in my "Toolbox".

P.S.
Yes, I know there's thousands of LiveCD's out there, but having the Gentoo branded one fixing someone's hosed machine is priceless... :)

P.P.S.
Yes, 10-10-02 is the date I joined here as well. I signed up after the install I mentioned above. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnny99 wrote:
If the project schedule has changed,
could the proper person update:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/20080123_releng_beta.xml
I'm really looking forward to testing.
Thank you.

bug 214231
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_b23bd35c5b3826e25eb5167bd54a6821.xml and follow-ups.
At this point there basically is no schedule anymore, so it may take months even.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yngwin wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
If the project schedule has changed,
could the proper person update:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/20080123_releng_beta.xml
I'm really looking forward to testing.
Thank you.

bug 214231
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_b23bd35c5b3826e25eb5167bd54a6821.xml and follow-ups.
At this point there basically is no schedule anymore, so it may take months even.



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