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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: 2008 Release Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the 2008 release will have an updated GUI installer via the livecd?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

divadgnol67,

Yes it will. It will no longer support network installs, that was a source of many of the bug reports.
Instead, it will install from binaries on the CD.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neddy,

I personally like the installer. I use the standard install method, download the most current stage/portage and then remcompile kernel and change a few config files. Works like a dream!! I also disagree that it doesn't make the install easier. Who likes to type all those commands:/ Is it possible to write a script to install Gentoo specific to my system? Dumb question I know. What I really mean is there an easy scripting language I canuse to automate the tedious typing of commands. Since I screw things up alot I tend to re-install at least once every couple of weeks.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally don't like the idea of the installer, but let's not turn this thread into a debate about the GUI versus the CLI. It is possible to write a bash script that you can execute with the installation disc in. However, that would be time consuming, and possibly prone to err. The real way to learn Gentoo (and Linux in general) is to not just reinstall, but rather, post your problems here and try to work through them. I have learned an immense amount by getting help from other members of this community. We really don't bite...hard. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

divadgnol67,

I have a script that does stage 1 and a few other odds and ends except for the kernel.
Its a while since I've used it. I wrote it to do installs on boxes intended to host seti@home classic, in the days when I had a seti farm.

Learn bash. Start like this
Code:
#!/bin/bash
# add commands as you would type them
The first #! is not a comment, its a special symbol that means the name of the command interpreter follows. You need to chmod +x the file, so it can be executed.
Look at other scripts on your system.

Its very easy to write 'linear' scripts. Loops, conditions and error handling is harder but dip a toe in the water first.
Even simple scripts are useful.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kalos wrote:
I personally don't like the idea of the installer, but let's not turn this thread into a debate about the GUI versus the CLI.


Yeah me too, the CLI help the use how Linux works and also, you need to work to get things working.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Neddy, and to the rest,

i do use the cli and love it. i have been a gentoo user since early 2004 and have installed via cli many, many times. i just like the thought of automating the mundane exercise of typing simple commands. just because i can read a manual and follow instructions doesn't make me proficient with linux.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over several (Stage 3) installs I've accumulated a couple of scripts that do most of the
work, but they are pretty trivial - just lists of stuff to emerge. That and a set of notes
to remind me the order of the initial partitioning/setup/copying commands. There
doesn't seem much point in more elaboration, never mind a GUI install.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wanna know how Linux works go do linux from scratch. :twisted:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

divadgnol67 wrote:
Thanks Neddy, and to the rest,

i do use the cli and love it. i have been a gentoo user since early 2004 and have installed via cli many, many times. i just like the thought of automating the mundane exercise of typing simple commands. just because i can read a manual and follow instructions doesn't make me proficient with linux.


I didn't mean to discourage you from writing a bash script to take care of some of the installation commands. I simply wanted you to know that some parts will be much more in depth than others. Here's a nice little reference to get you started with bash:

http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html

Hope that helps. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Kalos,

no offense taken. thanks for the link.

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