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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Forums UTF-8 conversion feedback Reply with quote

If you've got any questions about the recent UTF-8 conversion or you notice any posts that haven't been converted correctly post them here and we'll deal with them on a case-by-case basis.

If you have any problems with your username or Private Messages send an email to forum-mods@gentoo.org.

Mod Edit by NeddySeagoon - fixed typo and stuck
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything looks good guys. Thanks for the hard work, and glad to see the forums back online again. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?

FF and keep up the good work!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Forums Migration Reply with quote

Thanks gents! Great job. :D
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally: UTF-8 8) Everything seems to be on its correct place.

Thanks! All the -big- effort is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuam wrote:
Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?

FF and keep up the good work!

Daniel


Yes, I'll be writing up something about the whole process including the problems we encountered along the way, but not just yet, I'm putting my feet up for a couple of days :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for you engagement to provide one of the coolest linux forums available. Everything looks good right now but the feeling is that it even looks better than before. :)

Keep up the good work. I would like to read your experiences with the migration, too!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I apologize if this should be obvious, but what's the main benefit of moving to UTF-8? Is it meant to help with non-english languages?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drewgrange wrote:
I apologize if this should be obvious, but what's the main benefit of moving to UTF-8? Is it meant to help with non-english languages?


Unless your browser can auto-adjust the charsets, using more than one is a pain. In a forum like this, where you might be participating in Spanish, English, German, French, Portuguesse and Italian sections (just an example, I am not that smart :lol: ), this is quite a pain in the ass. Not to talk about non-latin alphabets, like Russian or Chinesse.

UTF-8 is the "one charset to rule them all". Besides that, it is the future. It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it :P ).

It is definitely, the way to go on an international, multilingual, forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

currently i see that the font size has become smaller in ie. firefox i have not tried yet.

what are things to check if everything ok.
what are things visibly changed. i did not find any difference so far except it is more difficult to read in internet explorer in windows.

this proved that we / atleast i cannot do without the forum uo and running always when i am working with gentoo.
felt was driving a car without a steering wheel

happy welcome back gentoo forums :D :D :D :D :D

worth mention is i lost my X with last upgrade to 1.4 ver server. after lot of thinking re emrging old server 1.3 i found it is needed to emerge all drivers too after server change. now i got back latest x server running nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VERY glad to the have the fora back. I have noticed that it seems to be more responsive now than it used to be, but I don't know how upgrading to MySQL5 would do that. :? Anyway, thank you so much for the hard work! :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentoo_zach wrote:
VERY glad to the have the fora back. I have noticed that it seems to be more responsive now than it used to be, but I don't know how upgrading to MySQL5 would do that. :? Anyway, thank you so much for the hard work! :)

The MySQL5 server is a more powerful, newer machine so that might be one of the reasons.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomk wrote:
tuam wrote:
Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?

FF and keep up the good work!

Daniel


Yes, I'll be writing up something about the whole process including the problems we encountered along the way, but not just yet, I'm putting my feet up for a couple of days :wink:

Good work! It would indeed be nice to read how it went and what went wrong, but take your time, you have earned it! :D
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i92guboj wrote:

UTF-8 is the "one charset to rule them all". Besides that, it is the future. .

That comment makes me want to watch Lord of the rings again. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys!!! great work, now I can read Russian forum :lol: ;)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if this is due to the UTF-8 conversion or not, but the forums are --lightning-- fast. Click a link and it opens damn near instant.

Excellent work. Very impressed.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duby2291 wrote:
I'm not sure if this is due to the UTF-8 conversion or not, but the forums are --lightning-- fast. Click a link and it opens damn near instant.

Excellent work. Very impressed.
It's got nothing to do with UTF-8. They've just riced the forums server.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'm going to congrat you guys for the work. I guess it's been a little stressing in the end given the long downtime ;-) . Good work and thank you again.

One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'é' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface.

Ah... TinyWare... Always a good laugh!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i92guboj wrote:
It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it :P ).

Why only Klingon and not Andorian? Do you, pink faces, have anything against Andorian People?

:lol: ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VinzC wrote:
One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'é' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface.

If it displays fine in one UI and not another, then yes it's probably a bad coding of the UI of Live.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VinzC wrote:
One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'é' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface.


Works for me in mutt so looks like it's Hotmail's problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, it has nothing to do with phpBB, it was so much obvious to me that tech people behind the fora *do* know what they're doing... unlinke TinyWare ;-) .

Sorry for the troll... Just couldn't resist.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VinzC wrote:
i92guboj wrote:
It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it :P ).

Why only Klingon and not Andorian? Do you, pink faces, have anything against Andorian People?


I suppose Andorian character set is not as well documented. For Klingon there’s¹ at least two normative references and three klingon language books published. Although the request for Klingon was rejected by Unicode committee, it’s now quite stable at private use block.

¹ You can also use apostrophes that are curly with unicode safely now! Yay.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm impatient to read your process notes about it.

Also thank you very much for all the job done and the time you take for doing it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suppose Andorian character set is not as well documented. For Klingon there’s¹ at least two normative references and three klingon language books published. Although the request for Klingon was rejected by Unicode committee, it’s now quite stable at private use block.

¹ You can also use apostrophes that are curly with unicode safely now! Yay.

Do you mean the ones that you've just put in your last two sentences? If so they don't appear curly on my side but I guess that's just because I'm using Arial for my default font?
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