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Cazzantonio Bodhisattva


Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 4463 Location: In giro
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: Petition to obtain decent linux drivers from VIA |
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Recently (actually just now!) we put up a petition to VIA to obtain decent video drivers for Linux. VIA has ignored the Linux community for years and released poor, unmaintained and buggy drivers (actually unusable) just to pretend to support linux (and sell more of their mini-itx motherboards).
This is the link to the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/vialinux/
If this topic is too OT, please lock it or do what you think is best. In my opinion this isn't too OT for the Off-Topic forum  _________________ Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee
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sts Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 97
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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That's a good reason not to purchase VIA products.
Also:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp _________________ I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. |
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dforsyth n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 26 Location: College Park, Murdaland
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'll sign it as soon as I get flash on FreeBSD. _________________ O
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StarDragon Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 390 Location: tEXas
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Amen brother, via units are typically sold with cheap laptops. Only rich people can afford to avoid via. |
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slycordinator Advocate


Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 3047 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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If they do release good drivers some other group is gonna bitch that they want VIA to release them under GPL.
And since openchrome already exists as a GPL driver for VIA video chipsets, I fail to see what the big deal is. |
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Zepp Veteran


Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 1246 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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++ online petitions are useless. |
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freelight Apprentice


Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 295 Location: NYC, NY, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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I seem to recall an online petition to end online petitions, but it failed. _________________ "If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?" --Thomas Jefferson
"Let the gremlins eat your soul... it's invigorating." --LD |
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StarDragon Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 390 Location: tEXas
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| slycordinator wrote: | | And since openchrome already exists as a GPL driver for VIA video chipsets, I fail to see what the big deal is. |
Except you can't get direct rendering to work with openGL. |
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bunder Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5213 Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| Zepp wrote: | | ++ online petitions are useless. |
/me yawns in agreement _________________ goodbye fgo. it was nice knowing you. |
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dforsyth n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 26 Location: College Park, Murdaland
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| bunder wrote: | | Zepp wrote: | | ++ online petitions are useless. |
/me yawns in agreement |
dude, maybe if you gave them some free shells they'd do it. _________________ O
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bunder Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5213 Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| Ha1f wrote: | | bunder wrote: | | Zepp wrote: | | ++ online petitions are useless. |
/me yawns in agreement |
dude, maybe if you gave them some free shells they'd do it. |
i can care less... i only have one machine that uses anything by via... in fact i didn't even know via made their own video chipset...  _________________ goodbye fgo. it was nice knowing you. |
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curtis119 Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2158 Location: Toledo, OH, USA, North America, Earth, SOL System, Milky Way, The Universe, The Cosmos, and Beyond.
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djdunn Guru


Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Under the moon and all the stars in the sky.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
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petitions are useless...
they are aware they don't release something for Linux, and if they think they can make enough money to justify developing and releasing something for anything, they will release it. even open sourcing something will cost the company to host to provide employees to oversee and control the development of the open source project. resources to make the code available bandwith and everything like that.
moral of the story
free software may be free, but freedom has its price. _________________ Now, with penguins, (cuddly such), "contented" means it has either just gotten laid, or it's stuffed on herring. Take it from me, I'm an expert on penguins, those are really the only two options.
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StarDragon Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 390 Location: tEXas
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| djdunn wrote: | | free software may be free, but freedom has its price. |
How difficult would it be to release the code to the community?? If they continue to ignore linux, they'll eventually suffer once windozed starts to go down. |
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dforsyth n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 26 Location: College Park, Murdaland
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| StarDragon wrote: | | djdunn wrote: | | free software may be free, but freedom has its price. |
How difficult would it be to release the code to the community?? If they continue to ignore linux, they'll eventually suffer once windozed starts to go down. |
no, then they'll just start putting out linux drivers. _________________ O
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Dralnu Veteran


Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I might sign, if I had ever seen notice of anything I've ever looked at using VIA... _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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Lepaca Kliffoth l33t


Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 737 Location: Florence, Italy
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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VIA's standing doesn't depend on the opinion of Linux users. This thread is made of fail. _________________ It isn't enough to win - everyone else must lose, and you also have to rub it in their face (maybe chop off an arm too for good measure).
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8086 n00b


Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 52
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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I opened this thread for the first time and I had no idea why. And then I hit the final post. I guess I'm drawn to memes as sharks are drawn to blood.
Alas: FreeBSD+Flash thing -- count me in. |
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Shadow Skill Veteran

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1022
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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I would think that a boycott of Via integrated video chipsets might be more effective. _________________ Ware wa mutekinari.
Wa ga kage waza ni kanau mono nashi.
Wa ga ichigeki wa mutekinari.
"First there was nothing, so the lord gave us light. There was still nothing, but at least you could see it." |
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StarDragon Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 390 Location: tEXas
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: |
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no, then they'll just start putting out linux drivers. |
No, by that time people will stop buying via based machines. Or switch to Apple. |
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dforsyth n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 26 Location: College Park, Murdaland
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| StarDragon wrote: | | Ha1f wrote: |
no, then they'll just start putting out linux drivers. |
No, by that time people will stop buying via based machines. Or switch to Apple. |
I doubt they'd let the Linux market share reach a point where a boycott by Linux users would actually affect (devastate) them financially before they started actually putting out drivers. They would/will do it as soon as it's legitimately profitable. _________________ O
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curtis119 Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2158 Location: Toledo, OH, USA, North America, Earth, SOL System, Milky Way, The Universe, The Cosmos, and Beyond.
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| Ha1f wrote: |
I doubt they'd let the Linux market share reach a point where a boycott by Linux users would actually affect (devastate) them financially before they started actually putting out drivers. They would/will do it as soon as it's legitimately profitable. |
Exactly. _________________ Please read the Forum Guidelines.
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xerxian n00b


Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Wait, VIA is still in business? Could have fooled me, havent seen their gear being at all common since nVidia jumped into the chipset market. _________________ "I'm just picturing a bunch of anime lovers with their macs talking about how awesome anime and steve jobs is." -- tylerwylie on japanology |
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sts Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| xerxian wrote: | | Wait, VIA is still in business? Could have fooled me, havent seen their gear being at all common since nVidia jumped into the chipset market. |
They are making a lot of 'low-power' and 'green' chips. I'm sure people like google are buying them up like hotcakes just because of the power savings. _________________ I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. |
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bunder Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5213 Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| sts wrote: | | xerxian wrote: | | Wait, VIA is still in business? Could have fooled me, havent seen their gear being at all common since nVidia jumped into the chipset market. |
They are making a lot of 'low-power' and 'green' chips. I'm sure people like google are buying them up like hotcakes just because of the power savings. |
all the mini-itx stuff is via. _________________ goodbye fgo. it was nice knowing you. |
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