Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
Petition to obtain decent linux drivers from VIA
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

Goto page 1, 2  Next  
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Off the Wall
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Cazzantonio
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 20 Mar 2004
Posts: 4463
Location: In giro

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Petition to obtain decent linux drivers from VIA Reply with quote

Recently (actually just now!) we put up a petition to VIA to obtain decent video drivers for Linux. VIA has ignored the Linux community for years and released poor, unmaintained and buggy drivers (actually unusable) just to pretend to support linux (and sell more of their mini-itx motherboards).

This is the link to the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/vialinux/

If this topic is too OT, please lock it or do what you think is best. In my opinion this isn't too OT for the Off-Topic forum :)
_________________
Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee
-John Donne
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sts
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Jul 2007
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good reason not to purchase VIA products.

Also:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
_________________
I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dforsyth
n00b
n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 26
Location: College Park, Murdaland

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll sign it as soon as I get flash on FreeBSD.
_________________
O
4~ <-- me, fapping to Palin.
/\ `_
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
StarDragon
Guru
Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 390
Location: tEXas

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen brother, via units are typically sold with cheap laptops. Only rich people can afford to avoid via.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
slycordinator
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 31 Jan 2004
Posts: 3047
Location: Houston, TX

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they do release good drivers some other group is gonna bitch that they want VIA to release them under GPL.

And since openchrome already exists as a GPL driver for VIA video chipsets, I fail to see what the big deal is.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Zepp
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 15 Mar 2004
Posts: 1246
Location: Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sts wrote:
That's a good reason not to purchase VIA products.

Also:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp


++ online petitions are useless.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
freelight
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 12 Jun 2004
Posts: 295
Location: NYC, NY, USA

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to recall an online petition to end online petitions, but it failed.
_________________
"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?" --Thomas Jefferson

"Let the gremlins eat your soul... it's invigorating." --LD
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
StarDragon
Guru
Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 390
Location: tEXas

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slycordinator wrote:
And since openchrome already exists as a GPL driver for VIA video chipsets, I fail to see what the big deal is.


Except you can't get direct rendering to work with openGL.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bunder
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Apr 2004
Posts: 5213
Location: Hamilton, Ontario

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zepp wrote:
++ online petitions are useless.


/me yawns in agreement
_________________
goodbye fgo. it was nice knowing you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dforsyth
n00b
n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 26
Location: College Park, Murdaland

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bunder wrote:
Zepp wrote:
++ online petitions are useless.


/me yawns in agreement


dude, maybe if you gave them some free shells they'd do it.
_________________
O
4~ <-- me, fapping to Palin.
/\ `_
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bunder
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Apr 2004
Posts: 5213
Location: Hamilton, Ontario

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha1f wrote:
bunder wrote:
Zepp wrote:
++ online petitions are useless.


/me yawns in agreement


dude, maybe if you gave them some free shells they'd do it.


i can care less... i only have one machine that uses anything by via... in fact i didn't even know via made their own video chipset... :?
_________________
goodbye fgo. it was nice knowing you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
curtis119
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 2158
Location: Toledo, OH, USA, North America, Earth, SOL System, Milky Way, The Universe, The Cosmos, and Beyond.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummmmmmm buy Intel? If VIA doesnt get it then they go out of business....
_________________
Please read the Forum Guidelines.
* | www.gayroughnecks.com | *
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
djdunn
Guru
Guru


Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 518
Location: Under the moon and all the stars in the sky.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petitions are useless...

they are aware they don't release something for Linux, and if they think they can make enough money to justify developing and releasing something for anything, they will release it. even open sourcing something will cost the company to host to provide employees to oversee and control the development of the open source project. resources to make the code available bandwith and everything like that.

moral of the story

free software may be free, but freedom has its price.
_________________
Now, with penguins, (cuddly such), "contented" means it has either just gotten laid, or it's stuffed on herring. Take it from me, I'm an expert on penguins, those are really the only two options.

--Linus Torvalds
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
StarDragon
Guru
Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 390
Location: tEXas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djdunn wrote:
free software may be free, but freedom has its price.


How difficult would it be to release the code to the community?? If they continue to ignore linux, they'll eventually suffer once windozed starts to go down.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dforsyth
n00b
n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 26
Location: College Park, Murdaland

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StarDragon wrote:
djdunn wrote:
free software may be free, but freedom has its price.


How difficult would it be to release the code to the community?? If they continue to ignore linux, they'll eventually suffer once windozed starts to go down.

no, then they'll just start putting out linux drivers.
_________________
O
4~ <-- me, fapping to Palin.
/\ `_
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dralnu
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 1919

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might sign, if I had ever seen notice of anything I've ever looked at using VIA...
_________________
The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lepaca Kliffoth
l33t
l33t


Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Posts: 737
Location: Florence, Italy

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VIA's standing doesn't depend on the opinion of Linux users. This thread is made of fail.
_________________
It isn't enough to win - everyone else must lose, and you also have to rub it in their face (maybe chop off an arm too for good measure).
Animebox!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
8086
n00b
n00b


Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 52

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I opened this thread for the first time and I had no idea why. And then I hit the final post. I guess I'm drawn to memes as sharks are drawn to blood.

Alas: FreeBSD+Flash thing -- count me in.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Shadow Skill
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Posts: 1022

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that a boycott of Via integrated video chipsets might be more effective.
_________________
Ware wa mutekinari.
Wa ga kage waza ni kanau mono nashi.
Wa ga ichigeki wa mutekinari.

"First there was nothing, so the lord gave us light. There was still nothing, but at least you could see it."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
StarDragon
Guru
Guru


Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 390
Location: tEXas

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha1f wrote:

no, then they'll just start putting out linux drivers.


No, by that time people will stop buying via based machines. Or switch to Apple.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dforsyth
n00b
n00b


Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 26
Location: College Park, Murdaland

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StarDragon wrote:
Ha1f wrote:

no, then they'll just start putting out linux drivers.


No, by that time people will stop buying via based machines. Or switch to Apple.

I doubt they'd let the Linux market share reach a point where a boycott by Linux users would actually affect (devastate) them financially before they started actually putting out drivers. They would/will do it as soon as it's legitimately profitable.
_________________
O
4~ <-- me, fapping to Palin.
/\ `_
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
curtis119
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 2158
Location: Toledo, OH, USA, North America, Earth, SOL System, Milky Way, The Universe, The Cosmos, and Beyond.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha1f wrote:

I doubt they'd let the Linux market share reach a point where a boycott by Linux users would actually affect (devastate) them financially before they started actually putting out drivers. They would/will do it as soon as it's legitimately profitable.


Exactly.
_________________
Please read the Forum Guidelines.
* | www.gayroughnecks.com | *
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
xerxian
n00b
n00b


Joined: 16 May 2003
Posts: 38
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, VIA is still in business? Could have fooled me, havent seen their gear being at all common since nVidia jumped into the chipset market.
_________________
"I'm just picturing a bunch of anime lovers with their macs talking about how awesome anime and steve jobs is." -- tylerwylie on japanology
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sts
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Jul 2007
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xerxian wrote:
Wait, VIA is still in business? Could have fooled me, havent seen their gear being at all common since nVidia jumped into the chipset market.

They are making a lot of 'low-power' and 'green' chips. I'm sure people like google are buying them up like hotcakes just because of the power savings.
_________________
I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bunder
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Apr 2004
Posts: 5213
Location: Hamilton, Ontario

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sts wrote:
xerxian wrote:
Wait, VIA is still in business? Could have fooled me, havent seen their gear being at all common since nVidia jumped into the chipset market.

They are making a lot of 'low-power' and 'green' chips. I'm sure people like google are buying them up like hotcakes just because of the power savings.


all the mini-itx stuff is via.
_________________
goodbye fgo. it was nice knowing you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Off the Wall All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum