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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Problems using init script to start wireless interface? Reply with quote

I just got a broadcom wireless card working using the native b43 driver in the 2.6.24 kernel. Right now I'm connecting to an endpoint that only supports wep, though I'm doing it with wpa_supplicant using the wext wpa_supplicant driver.

The only reason it took me a long time to get working is that apparently it fails when manaully trying to start the interface with the init script, like this:

Code:
/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
 * Starting wlan0
 *   Starting wpa_supplicant on wlan0 ...
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported
WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported                            [ ok ]th param 5 value 0x1 -
 *   Starting wpa_cli on wlan0 ...                                                            [ ok ]
 *     Backgrounding ...


The errors there are a little messed up, but that's exactly how they appear. At that point any pings just get "network unreachable" trying to ping anything.

However if I let it come up simply by unplugging the wireless card from the PCMCIA and plugging it back in, it works perfectly.

What is the hotplug startup doing differently that is would work?

This actually reminds me of issues I had with a wired card on this laptop when stopping the service to change from dhcp to a static ip. The network would be unreachable but would work fine on reboot...seems similar.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Problems using init script to start wireless interface? Reply with quote

tld wrote:

Code:
/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
 * Starting wlan0
 *   Starting wpa_supplicant on wlan0 ...
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported
WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported                            [ ok ]th param 5 value 0x1 -
 *   Starting wpa_cli on wlan0 ...                                                            [ ok ]
 *     Backgrounding ...


The errors there are a little messed up, but that's exactly how they appear. At that point any pings just get "network unreachable" trying to ping anything.


I have a similar problem, except that I have a PCI card of theirs, I can't just pop it out and try it again! :lol:

When the card does connect, it works great, but it's a mind numbing series of reboots trying to get the thing to "reset itself" (or something...) to get it to work. That card is the only thing that's keeping one of my machines on w2k. I rent an apartment in an old-ish building. I can't run CAT-5 cable back to it because I can't punch holes in the walls and I can't just run cable down the hallway to it because most of the rooms are hardwood floors so I can't tuck it under the carpet to stop people tripping on it (or the damn cats chewing it). My only option is wireless for that machine and w2k likes it every reboot, but, Linux (Gentoo) only can bring the link up once in a while. :/
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, at least mine seems to work on every reboot and/or every hotplug, as far as I've seen...so I'm better off than that at least. Trying to stop it and restart it from the init script however never does.

I thought maybe the hotplugging was doing something different that just running the init script, but I guess it may be more of a hardware issue.

I'm running sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24_rc6 to have the newer b43 support.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tld wrote:
Well, at least mine seems to work on every reboot and/or every hotplug, as far as I've seen...so I'm better off than that at least. Trying to stop it and restart it from the init script however never does.

I thought maybe the hotplugging was doing something different that just running the init script, but I guess it may be more of a hardware issue.

I'm running sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24_rc6 to have the newer b43 support.

Tom


I should've typed it before, but if you feel like typing rather than popping the card in and out, you can also do "pccard reset" and that should do it to. I have to do that every 10-20 seconds when I'm using kismet with an orinoco PCMCIA wireless NIC in this machine laptop. I don't know why, and I've yet to figure out how to not make it so I don't have to reset the NIC all the time. I get something about IRQ over runs (or something very similar to that).

Anyway, sorry I can't solve your issue, but I just wanted to say I (sort of) share your pain. :x
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xanadu wrote:


I should've typed it before, but if you feel like typing rather than popping the card in and out, you can also do "pccard reset" and that should do it to.


What package is the 'pccard' command from? I can do something similar to that with the pccardctl program from the pcmciautils package:

Code:
pccardctl eject 1
pccardctl insert 1


...where '1' is the slot number, but I don't have any pccard program.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tld wrote:
What package is the 'pccard' command from? I can do something similar to that with the pccardctl program from the pcmciautils package:

Code:
pccardctl eject 1
pccardctl insert 1


...where '1' is the slot number, but I don't have any pccard program.

Tom


Ya know, I should actually fire up konsole from time to time when I go to type something here...

You're right, it's "pccardctl", I use the reset command when I'm using kismet since I can't eject (logically or physically) the card it's trying to use to scan for networks for obvious reasons! :D I'm too used to typing "pcc" then just hitting TAB...

:lol:

Oh, well. I'll get it right one of these days... :oops:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone come up with a solution to the initial problem?

My card is a bcm4318 and I'm getting the exact same error with b43 in combination with wpa_supplicant.
Though I'm never getting it to work. The card simply doesn't associate :(

btw. could someone change the topic to smth like "b43 and wpa_supplicant. problems with wext" ?
Because I guess that's rather the problem, not the init script.

edit: Well, the b43 driver isn't listed as supported on the wpa_supplicant page http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/ (unless that's what they mean by Broadcom wl.o) and the feature in question seems to be wpa_driver_wext_set_countermeasures
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: ditto Reply with quote

I'm also having this problem with my b43 driver, wpa_supplicant, and wireless card broadcom 4318.

bummer.

Also, this is probably an idiotic question, but I thought I remembered reading in some docs somewhere that ioctl was only used with the legacy mac80211 stack, and should not be employed by the new kernel modules... taking into account the fact that I have no idea what I'm doing, the fact that we see ioctl in the error is not indicative of the wireless configuration attempting to utilize the wrong wireless stack support from the kernel modules, is it? Thanks for humouring me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I know of wifi driver architecture and wpa_supplicant (which is very little I'm afraid), the wpa_supplicant <--> driver interplay is somewhat like this:

Code:
wpa_supplicant <--> wext driver (driver_wext.h) <--> wifidevice (aka wifi driver [in our case b43]) <--> hardware


The wext driver implements wpa operations and communicates with the actual device driver. Now either (if as you said ioctl shouldn't be used by mac80211) wpa_supplicant doesn't work with newer drivers based on mac80211 (then other drivers wouldn't work either) or the b43 driver fails to implement certain features required by wpa_supplicant and subsequently the wext driver.

I'll see if I can find some information on wpa_supplicant <--> mac80211 interplay
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mail-archive.com/bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de/msg05041.html wrote:
> In bcm43xx, those IOCTL's were implemented. In mac80211, they are not as they
> are not needed. As you
> see, those messages are not fatal.


So it should work, regardless of these messages and you were right about the ioctls. Why then, doesn't my card associate? :(
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My AP is well recognized:

iwconfig eth1 wrote:
eth1 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"FunkyB19"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated
Tx-Power=27 dBm
Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B
Encryption key:off
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0


but as I already mentioned, it doesn't associate:

wpa_supplicant -ddd wrote:
Initializing interface (2) 'eth1'
EAPOL: SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED
EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE
EAPOL: SUPP_BE entering state INITIALIZE
EAP: EAP entering state DISABLED
EAPOL: External notification - portEnabled=0
EAPOL: External notification - portValid=0
SIOCGIWRANGE: WE(compiled)=22 WE(source)=21 enc_capa=0xf
capabilities: key_mgmt 0xf enc 0xf
WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=1, operstate=5
Own MAC address: 00:18:f8:2f:16:7c
wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=0 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=1 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=2 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=3 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_countermeasures
wpa_driver_wext_set_drop_unencrypted
Setting scan request: 0 sec 100000 usec
Added interface eth1
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1002 ()
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b06 len=8
Ignore event for foreign ifindex 4
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
RTM_NEWLINK, IFLA_IFNAME: Interface 'eth1' added
State: DISCONNECTED -> SCANNING
Trying to associate with SSID 'FunkyB19'
Cancelling scan request
WPA: clearing own WPA/RSN IE
Automatic auth_alg selection: 0x1
WPA: No WPA/RSN IE available from association info
WPA: Set cipher suites based on configuration
WPA: Selected cipher suites: group 24 pairwise 24 key_mgmt 2 proto 1
WPA: clearing AP WPA IE
WPA: clearing AP RSN IE
WPA: using GTK CCMP
WPA: using PTK CCMP
WPA: using KEY_MGMT WPA-PSK
WPA: Set own WPA IE default - hexdump(len=24): dd 16 00 50 f2 01 01 00 00 50 f2 04 01 00 00 50 f2 04 01 00 00 50 f2 02
No keys have been configured - skip key clearing
wpa_driver_wext_set_drop_unencrypted
State: SCANNING -> ASSOCIATING
wpa_driver_wext_set_operstate: operstate 0->0 (DORMANT)
WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=-1, operstate=5
wpa_driver_wext_associate
Setting authentication timeout: 60 sec 0 usec
EAPOL: External notification - EAP success=0
EAPOL: External notification - EAP fail=0
EAPOL: External notification - portControl=Auto
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b06 len=8
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b1a len=16
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b19 len=8
Received 2687 bytes of scan results (13 BSSes)
Scan results: 13
Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.
Added BSSID 00:00:00:00:00:00 into blacklist
State: ASSOCIATING -> DISCONNECTED


I can remember having experienced the exact same problem (00:00:00:00:00:00 BSSID) before, but not what the solution to that was.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I've discovered that I always get those errors. My card associates fine if I either a) hotplug the card, or b) boot with the card in.

Stopping and starting with the init scripts however never associates correctly.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my case, it is a pci card, therefore, it is always plugged in. But that doesn't associate it for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could put the bssid in wpa_supplicant.conf and see whether it helps:
Code:
bssid=<MAC-address of your router>

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is already in there ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this tread as it helped me to get mine working:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-652112-highlight-wext+auth+param.html

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chill!

I don't know if it was
Code:
iwconfig eth1 txpower on


or setting ap_scan to 1 that did it... but I'm online with my b43 now.

Bye bye ndiswrapper
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwisatz_haderais wrote:
chill!

I don't know if it was
Code:
iwconfig eth1 txpower on


or setting ap_scan to 1 that did it... but I'm online with my b43 now.

Bye bye ndiswrapper


Any chance you could post your /etc/conf.d/net and /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf ? I'm having similar problems with a bcm4306 (I've posted some details in here) but haven't had any success, can't even scan.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wpa_supplicant.conf:
Quote:
ap_scan=1
network={
priority=1
ssid="FunkyB19"
bssid=**************
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=CCMP TKIP
group=CCMP TKIP
psk="**************"
}


conf.d/net:
Quote:
modules=("wpa_supplicant")
wpa_supplicant_eth1="-Dwext"



The important thing was to set ap_scan to 1 instead of 2
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I seem to have resolved this myself.

I decided to try going back to using iwconfig to configure the card as I had originally with ndiswrapper inserting the module.

What do you know it worked! Goodbye ndiswrapper :D

lsmod:

# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_seq                44336  0
snd_pcm_oss            34336  0
snd_mixer_oss          14016  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0           28124  0
snd_ac97_codec         95268  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                1664  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                63176  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              18628  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          7496  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
b43                   132964  0


dmesg:

b43-phy0 debug: Loading firmware version 351.126 (2006-07-29 05:54:02)
b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
b43-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized
b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started
b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c
wlan0: RX authentication from 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c (alg=0 transaction=2 status=0)
wlan0: authenticated
wlan0: associate with AP 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c
wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c (capab=0x401 status=0 aid=1)
wlan0: associated
wlan0: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:0c:41:36:b5:9c)
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready
wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c
wlan0: RX authentication from 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c (alg=0 transaction=2 status=0)
wlan0: authenticated
wlan0: associate with AP 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c
wlan0: RX ReassocResp from 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c (capab=0x401 status=0 aid=1)
wlan0: associated
wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c
wlan0: RX authentication from 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c (alg=0 transaction=2 status=0)
wlan0: authenticated
wlan0: associate with AP 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c
wlan0: RX ReassocResp from 00:0c:41:36:b5:9c (capab=0x401 status=0 aid=1)
wlan0: associated
wlan0: no IPv6 routers present



/etc/conf.d/net:

# wlan0 - wireless network card
#
# For configuration details please refer to...
#
# http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part4
module=( "wireless" )
config_AP=( "00:0C:41:36:B5:9C" )
config_ESSID=( "slack" )
preferred_aps=( "slack" )
associate_order=( "forceany" )
channel=( "9" )
iwconfig_wlan0="txpower on"
config_wlan0=( "dhcp" )
dhcpcd_wlan0=( "-t 30" )
dhcp_wlan0=( "release")

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