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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that for a long time there were no voices from developers if 4.1 will be included in main tree and when (when ready=/). But KDE is only one case and Gentoo information/documentation (official and unofficial via wiki) is still far superior to ones that other distros have.

Also my previous post might be a bit to harsh, as I myself use KDE from overlay, and it is not the only set of applications that I use every day that come from overlay, and in fact overlays support is not so bad, problems with some overlays are allowed on bugzilla, you can send an email directly do overlay maintainers and personally I didn't have any major issues regarding support for overlays.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ggaaron wrote:
You say that KDE is part of your core system, and KDE is in the main tree. KDE 4.1 is NOT considered stable, or complete. Only version 4.2 will be complete. In fact you want unstable software in main tree - of course there is testing branch for it, but it is up to developers to decide if they want to include KDE in main tree at all.


In my opinion KDE 4 releases should have the same dignity as the 3.x series had. They may, as it often happened with KDE 3, never make it to the stable branch. But they definitely should enter the unstable tree or at least hard masked tree, so that users can *choose* what software to use, and what is good for them. And we are not speaking about "live svn ebuilds": this is "upstream-released software", so it should be considered "upstream stable".

But, leaving this aside: neither the 3.5.10 release is in the tree. That one was released over 2 weeks ago. So this may not be an issue about "stability" or "completeness": kde's ebuilds used to be in the tree even BEFORE the official release (even before the *tagging*, sometimes!).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KDE 4.0 was marked as unstable by it's developers. Don't get me wrong, I too think that both 3 and 4 series should be available. I hope that this delays come from such factors as:
- KDE 4.1 ebuilds probably have to be written from scratch
- developer power must be split to 3.10 and 4.1 so both will take more time
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway to fix this?

Code:
# emerge -av kdelibs

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies /

!!! Invalid or corrupt dependency specification:

invalid atom: '>=sys-apps/dbus-0.91[X]'

('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1', 'merge')

!<kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 !<kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.7-r1 !=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8 !=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r1 !=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r2 !=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.8 >=app-misc/strigi-0.5.9 >=dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.6 >=dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.17 media-libs/fontconfig >=media-libs/freetype-2 media-libs/giflib media-libs/jpeg media-libs/libpng >=media-sound/phonon-4.2.0 >=sys-apps/dbus-0.91[X] x11-libs/libICE x11-libs/libSM x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXau x11-libs/libXcursor x11-libs/libXdmcp x11-libs/libXext x11-libs/libXfixes x11-libs/libXft x11-libs/libXpm x11-libs/libXrender x11-libs/libXtst >=x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.20 acl? ( kernel_linux? ( sys-apps/acl ) ) alsa? ( >=media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.14a[midi] ) fam? ( virtual/fam ) jpeg2k? ( media-libs/jasper ) kerberos? ( virtual/krb5 ) nls? ( virtual/libintl ) openexr? ( >=media-libs/openexr-1.2.2-r2 media-libs/ilmbase ) opengl? ( virtual/opengl ) >=dev-libs/libpcre-4.5 semantic-desktop? ( >=dev-libs/soprano-2.1 ) spell? ( app-text/aspell app-dicts/aspell-en app-text/enchant ) ssl? ( >=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7d ) zeroconf? ( || ( net-dns/avahi !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder ) ) ) doc? ( app-doc/doxygen ) sys-devel/gettext >=dev-util/cmake-2.4.6 x11-libs/qt-core:4 x11-libs/qt-gui:4 x11-libs/qt-qt3support:4 x11-libs/qt-script:4 x11-libs/qt-svg:4 x11-libs/qt-test:4 opengl? ( x11-libs/qt-opengl:4 ) >=dev-util/cmake-2.4.7-r1 dev-util/pkgconfig x11-libs/libXt x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto test? (dev-util/cppunit )

This package can not be installed. Please notify the
'kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1' package maintainer about this problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sync the overlay? My ebuild seems good, but I don't know if I have a snapshot from before or after yours. You can also edit the ebuild and remove '[X]'.

As I see then next post I'll clarify that I have kdesvn overlay.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use kdesvn-portage or Paludis
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The progress bar has satopped :?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my 64bit machine, kdelibs 4.1.1 doesn't compile:
Code:
[ 65%] Building CXX object kioslave/http/kcookiejar/CMakeFiles/kded_kcookiejar.d
ir/kcookiewin.o
In file included from /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1
/kioslave/http/http.cpp:28:
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kio/kio/slavebase.h:3
79: warning: 'virtual void KIO::SlaveBase::read(KIO::filesize_t)' was hidden
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kioslave/http/http.h:
284: warning:   by 'ssize_t HTTPProtocol::read(void*, size_t)'
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kio/kio/slavebase.h:3
80: warning: 'virtual void KIO::SlaveBase::write(const QByteArray&)' was hidden
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kioslave/http/http.h:
277: warning:   by 'ssize_t HTTPProtocol::write(const void*, size_t)'
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kioslave/http/http.cp
p: In member function 'ssize_t HTTPProtocol::write(const void*, size_t)':
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kioslave/http/http.cp
p:1823: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kioslave/http/http.cp
p: At global scope:
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/work/kdelibs-4.1.1/kioslave/http/http.cp
p:5963: warning: unused parameter 'proxy'
[ 65%] Building CXX object kioslave/http/CMakeFiles/kio_http.dir/kio_http_automo
c.o
Linking CXX shared module ../../lib/kio_http.so
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++: $(LDFLAGS): No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [lib/kio_http.so] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kioslave/http/CMakeFiles/kio_http.dir/all] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[ 65%] Building CXX object kioslave/http/kcookiejar/CMakeFiles/kded_kcookiejar.d
ir/kcookieserveradaptor.o
[ 65%] Building CXX object kioslave/http/kcookiejar/CMakeFiles/kded_kcookiejar.d
ir/kded_kcookiejar_automoc.o
Linking CXX shared module ../../../lib/kded_kcookiejar.so
[ 65%] Built target kded_kcookiejar
make: *** [all] Error 2
 *
 * ERROR: kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *               ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 *             environment, line 2694:  Called kde4overlay-base_src_compile
 *             environment, line 1978:  Called kde4overlay-base_src_make
 *             environment, line 2011:  Called cmake-utils_src_make
 *             environment, line  670:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *           emake "$@" || die "Make failed!";
 *  The die message:
 *   Make failed!
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if rele
vant.
 * A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.1/t
emp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-
4.1.1/temp/environment'.
 * This ebuild is from an overlay: '/usr/local/portage/layman/kdesvn-portage/'
 *


Info is as follows:
Code:
# emerge --info
WARNING: repository at /usr/local/portage is missing a repo_name entry
Portage 2.2_rc8 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.1, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r0, 2.6.18-gentoo-r4 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.18-gentoo-r4-x86_64-Intel-R-_Pentium-R-_D_CPU_3.40GHz-with-glibc2.2.5
Timestamp of tree: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:04:01 +0000
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
app-shells/bash:     3.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.1.6-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r9, 2.5.2-r7
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
dev-util/ccache:     2.4-r7
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.0
sys-apps/openrc:     0.2.5
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.18.1-r3
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.62-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.4
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.26
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs buildsyspkg ccache distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch preserve-libs sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.blueyonder.co.uk ftp://mirrors.blueyonder.co.uk/mirrors/gentoo http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ "
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
LINGUAS="en en_GB pt pt_PT"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage/layman/kdesvn-portage /usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="R X Xaw3d a52 aac aalib accessibility acl acpi ada aiglx akamaru alsa amarok amazon amd64 apache2 arts artworkextra asf aspnet aspnet2 athena auctex audiofile avahi avalon-framework avalon-logkit backtrace bashlogger bcp berkdb big-tables bjam blas blender-game bluetooth bogofilter bonobo boo branding bzip2 cairo calendar captury cdda cddb cdio cdparanoia cdr chicken cli context corba cpudetection cracklib crypt css ctype cups curl cursors cvs cvsgraph cxx daap dbus dc1394 dcraw designer-plugin device-mapper dga dhcp divx djvu dnd dri dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread dvi dxr3 eap-tls eds effects emacs emboss emerald encode enscript eolconv escreen esd etwin evdev evo examples exif expat extra extra-algorithms extra-cardsets extraengine extrafilters extraicons extramodules extras fam fame fastcgi fat ffmpeg firefox flac fluidsynth fortran ftp galago games gd gdbm gdm gif gimp gimpprint gkrellm glade glep glib glitz glut gmail gmedia gmp gpm grammar graphics graphviz gstreamer gtk gtkhtml guile gzip-el hal haskell hddtemp hfs highlight howl htmlhandbook httpd humanities icons iconv imagemagick imlib inkjar inotify isdnlog ithreads jabber jack jadetex java javascript jfs jikes jingle jpeg jpeg2k kde kdm kerberos keyring kig-scripting kpathsea lapack latex latin1 ldb leim lesstif libcaca libffi libgda libnotify libssh2 libwww lm_sensors log4j lua lzo mad math mbox md5sum mdnsresponder-compat midi mikmod mjpeg mmx mng mod_irc mod_muc mod_pubsub mod_python moneyplex mono motif mozbranding mozdevelop mozdom mozsha1 mp3 mp4 mp4live mpeg mplayer mppe-mppc msn mudflap multilib music musicbrainz mysql mzscheme nautilus ncurses neXt network-cron networking networkmanager nls nntp nova nptl nptlonly nsplugin ntfs nvidia objc objc++ objc-gc ocaml octave ogg omega openal opengl openmp ots pam pascal pbm pcre pdf perforce perl php pike plasma plotutils plugins png pop posix postgres postscript povray ppds pppd preview-latex pstricks publishers pymacs pyste python qt-static qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime radius rar rdesktop readline realmedia reflection regex reiser4 reiserfs replytolist ruby samba sametime sasl science scsh sdl sdl-image sensord server servletapi session skins slang slp sndfile soap solver sound speex spell spl sql sqlite sqlite3 sse sse2 ssl startup-notification stream subtitles subversion svg svnserve swig sysfs t1lib tagwriting tcl tcltk tcpd tetex tex4ht theora thesaurus threads tidy tiff timidity tk toolkit-scroll-bars tools truetype type1 unicode usb utempter v4l v4l2 vcd vim-syntax visualization vorbis wmf wmp wordperfect wxwindows x264 xcomposite xetex xface xfs xft xine xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter xorg xpm xrandr xscreensaver xsl xulrunner xv xvid yaz zip zlib" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic auth_digest authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident imagemap include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation proxy proxy_ajp proxy_balancer proxy_connect proxy_http rewrite setenvif so speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="en en_GB pt pt_PT" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS


Anyone with same problem or ideas on how to solve it?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmatos wrote:
On my 64bit machine, kdelibs 4.1.1 doesn't compile...


Ok obviously you are using some overlay, isn`t it much more convenient to ask questions on it`s thread.I think you`ll have much bigger chance for help than here :idea:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kollin wrote:
pmatos wrote:
On my 64bit machine, kdelibs 4.1.1 doesn't compile...


Ok obviously you are using some overlay, isn`t it much more convenient to ask questions on it`s thread.I think you`ll have much bigger chance for help than here :idea:


So there's an overlay specific thread. Thanks, I will try that! :)

[EDIT] Care to tell me if this is the correct one for kdesvn-portage?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-690914-highlight-kdesvnportage.html
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmatos wrote:
Kollin wrote:
pmatos wrote:
On my 64bit machine, kdelibs 4.1.1 doesn't compile...


Ok obviously you are using some overlay, isn`t it much more convenient to ask questions on it`s thread.I think you`ll have much bigger chance for help than here :idea:


So there's an overlay specific thread. Thanks, I will try that! :)

[EDIT] Care to tell me if this is the correct one for kdesvn-portage?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-690914-highlight-kdesvnportage.html


I think so, but i`m not using any kde overlay... waiting for the official release :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmatos wrote:
So there's an overlay specific thread. Thanks, I will try that! :)

[EDIT] Care to tell me if this is the correct one for kdesvn-portage?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-690914-highlight-kdesvnportage.html

Nope, that's the one with Paludis specific ebuilds ( :roll: ). Here's the thread for kdesvn-portage: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-694231.html
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few days no improvement :?

Code:
The official KDE 4.1 ebuilds appear to be approximately 94.24% done, of which 93.13% have 4.1.1 ebuilds.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of posts appeared, a few days ago, on Planet KDE that shed some light on the reasons for the delay in the inclusion of KDE 4.1 in portage. You can read them here and here.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheInvisible wrote:
A couple of posts appeared, a few days ago, on Planet KDE that shed some light on the reasons for the delay in the inclusion of KDE 4.1 in portage. You can read them here and here.


Thank you :D
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmatos wrote:

[EDIT] Care to tell me if this is the correct one for kdesvn-portage?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-690914-highlight-kdesvnportage.html


As you were answered - ^^ - this is the other (the evil one) overlay (genkdesvn) for paludis users (maintained by former KDE Gentoo maintainter - philantrop.. what a shame)

genstorm wrote:

Nope, that's the one with Paludis specific ebuilds ( :roll: ). Here's the thread for kdesvn-portage: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-694231.html


Wait a minute, so this is the official thread for official KDE4 testing overlay or KDE4 in portage? (I could swear I though this is kdesvn-portage thread) - this is way too confusing, I'm going to contact moderators to do sth about it.

Edit: I PM-ed one of moderators and proposed my idea how to clarify this mess.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. kdesvn-portage is not official.

Earlier in this thread I provided a link to the KDE4 gentoo-wiki which tells you about overlays compatible with Portage:
genstorm wrote:
Voila, here it is, your guide to KDE4 on Gentoo: http://gentoo-wiki.com/KDE4

There is kde-testing, which is official with its ebuilds being submitted to Portage some time in the future.
There is kdesvn-portage, which is unofficial and provides additional ebuilds for the current KDE-4.2 development branch (live SVN and 'stable' snapshots). support thread.
There is kde, which is available only to Paludis users. support thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if this is the place to post it but I did

Code:

layman -a kde-testing


unmasked all teh packages and when I do

Code:

emerge -pv kde-meta


I get the following blocks:

[blocks B ] x11-libs/qt-core (is blocking x11-libs/qt-4.3.3)
[blocks B ] <=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.1-r1, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-test-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-svg-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.4.1)

Any ideas how to fix them?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
equery list x11-libs/qt | grep 4\.

Unmerge found qt-4 packages.

After that, try again:
Code:
emerge -pv kde-meta


If something below qt-4.4.0 still gets pulled in,
Code:
echo "<x11-libs/qt-4.4" >> /etc/portage/package.mask
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the proxy issue has been fixed in 4.1?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what was this issue? I've used proxy with KDE 4.1.0 and it worked.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 4.0.x proxy support was totally b0rked. Konqueror and native KDE apps couldn't access the internet if you were behind a proxy, although Firefox/Opera/Whatever could if you manually specified the settings. Good to know it's fixed.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it works, but you can't set proxy for individual applications, only global configuration.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continued in KDE 4 in gentoo portage? - Part 2.
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