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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:40 am    Post subject: Gnome 2 Unmasked and Ready Reply with quote

Well spider and his amazing ebuilding has unmasked the desktop environment Gnome 2, and we are the first distribution to officially have it so how do all you gentoo users feel about that.

--Thanks spider, your hard work is greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Gnome 2 Unmasked and Ready Reply with quote

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Well spider and his amazing ebuilding has unmasked the desktop environment Gnome 2, and we are the first distribution to officially have it so how do all you gentoo users feel about that.

--Thanks spider, your hard work is greatly appreciated.


Good to hear!
Hopefully we have the whole system working and being smooth and nice, also a big thanks to the testers who've kept telling me when I miss things ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: Kudos from me as well Reply with quote

Spider wrote:
AutoBot wrote:
Well spider and his amazing ebuilding has unmasked the desktop environment Gnome 2, and we are the first distribution to officially have it so how do all you gentoo users feel about that.

--Thanks spider, your hard work is greatly appreciated.


Good to hear!
Hopefully we have the whole system working and being smooth and nice, also a big thanks to the testers who've kept telling me when I miss things ;)


A huge thank you. Not just for your speedy and efficiant work in getting this ready for us, but for sticking with it through all the beta test grumblers!

Emerging now...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:02 am    Post subject: gnome-core blocked Reply with quote

I just tried to emerge gnome2 and portage told me gnome-core is blocked. I am not sure what that means because I know it isn't masked. Do I need to unmerge gnome-core before I can emerge gnome2?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is described here : https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=6223

"If you have a previous Gnome 1.4 installation, portage will stop and complain that "gnome-core" is blocking, to solve this issue you have to:
emerge unmerge gnome-core

This will remove the conflicts encountered. "

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 11:08 am    Post subject: hmm... Reply with quote

One thing I've noticed.. its probably a temporary thing, but #1 edb isn't building (I have no clue where that dependancy came from.. shrug) and #2 I unmerge gnome-core... and it keeps coming back when I run emerge -up world .... should we be throwing that into packages.mask? rather annoying to have that keep coming up :p
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Gnome 2 Unmasked and Ready Reply with quote

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we are the first distribution to officially have it [Gnome 2] so how do all you gentoo users feel about that.


It is moments like this that make me realise why I got into bed with Gentoo in the first place. :-)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the notice. i was just looking at linux.com and it said that Gnome2 was released today..

the fact that i can also install it today.. is a big step in the right direction..
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes yes yes yes yes, it was quick and easy and very impresive. Spider deservers a raise, oh wait does he get paid for this? Anyways thanks so much for not sitting in your computer chair and doing all this and shutting yourself out from the world :) . Of course now the big question when will Galeon 2 be ready?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course now the big question when will Galeon 2 be ready?

I think we all know the answer to that -- when it's done ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And seing how Spider works I would say only a few days because he does not waste time, I have never seen anyone realse something so fast before
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now when you guys get your gnome2 installed and tweaked up, you can post all those cool desktop shots in this thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=2460
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: hmm... Reply with quote

grandpajive wrote:
.... should we be throwing that into packages.mask? rather annoying to have that keep coming up :p


I don't claim any special expertise, so if this is inane, let me know:
Would editing your /var/cache/edb/world file and commenting/removing the gnome-core entry work :?:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: hmm... Reply with quote

ZagiFlyer wrote:
grandpajive wrote:
.... should we be throwing that into packages.mask? rather annoying to have that keep coming up :p


I don't claim any special expertise, so if this is inane, let me know:
Would editing your /var/cache/edb/world file and commenting/removing the gnome-core entry work :?:


Email spider and ask him if he knows what to do, spider@gentoo.org
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't emerge gnome to get gnome-2. Previously, i had gnome-1.4-r3 installed, and i can't do emerge rsync as i am behind firewall, so i downloaded the daily portage tree from the snapshots. and try to unmask those parameters stated by spider, but i couldn't find them in the /usr/portage/profiles/packages.mask

when i go emerge gnome, it always promted gnome-base/gnome-1.4-r3 has been merged......
how can i emerge gnome-2.0 successfully? If i can't, i would like to try to uninstall the current gnome1.4(how do i uninstall packages) and then redo an 'emerge gnome'

any help is appreciated!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to do this since I've been itching to get ahold of Gnome2 for...well, since I installed Gnome 1.4 looooong ago. Anyway, I need to complain a bit about a few things:

1. Launch feedback. In 1.4 on my Redhat box, it's as easy as opening the control panel and turning on application launch feedback. In 2.0, I don't think there even is a control center (running gnomecc opens control center 1.4 which seems stupid to me), and I can't find where to turn the feedback on.

2. Desktop icons. I want to be able to align my icons. Not by name on the left side, I want to be able to put them where ever I want, right click, and click "Tidy Icons" and have them line up nice and pretty.

3. Crashes. Seems like every second time I close Galeon it seg faults. Tried to install a Nautilus theme (which was probably from the old version so it wouldn't work) and it seg faults.

The worst thing is #1 and #2 are listed right on the Gnome2 project page as "must fix" in 2.0 here.

I think that one of the Gnome developers put it best in the bug for issue #2 in the Gnome bugzilla database when he commented:

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This is the most frequently requested feature for nautilus of which
I'm aware. The lack of a 'snap to grid' feature makes the desktop
extremely hard to organize and/or clean up, and that makes one of the
biggest chunks of functionality much less useful. Or to put it another
way, from the discussion in
http://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/1013375702/index_html :
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ETA for nautilus to ...
by h on Tuesday February 12, @01:26PM
incorporate a 'snap to grid' feature in desktop view:

300 years

incorporate a 'mail file to' feature by right clicking :

1000 years

hey who cares about such shit, if we can browse gopher and listen to
mp3's with our filemanager...
finally i can browse gopher and listen to mp3's !!!!

THANKS NAUTILUS
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this post: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=6213

shoot2kill wrote:
i can't emerge gnome to get gnome-2. Previously, i had gnome-1.4-r3 installed, and i can't do emerge rsync as i am behind firewall, so i downloaded the daily portage tree from the snapshots. and try to unmask those parameters stated by spider, but i couldn't find them in the /usr/portage/profiles/packages.mask

when i go emerge gnome, it always promted gnome-base/gnome-1.4-r3 has been merged......
how can i emerge gnome-2.0 successfully? If i can't, i would like to try to uninstall the current gnome1.4 and then redo an 'emerge gnome'

any help is appreciated!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick response, i am currently doing an emerge -u update, just this command strike my mind suddenly, i think it is going to take a long time. I will post back my result. Have a nice day!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried, still getting gnome-1.4-r3 merged.

I have tried emerge -u gnome, but to no avail. Any idea?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoot2kill wrote:
I tried, still getting gnome-1.4-r3 merged.

I have tried emerge -u gnome, but to no avail. Any idea?

Did you rsync first? If so, nevermind.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read something about needing an emerge rsync --clean I believe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully still on topic, I read this review of Gnome 2. Being that this site and author are
what turned me on to Gentoo, I think I will avoid Gnome 2 until it has had a chance to ripen.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eugenia's review of gnome somewhat disappointed me, I mean come on gnome 2 is not that bad.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That could be true... I haven't emerged it, and won't until at least .01. However, I have read
posts in these forums that conveyed the same issues. The descriptions indicate to me that
I would dislike the same "problem areas".
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:47 pm    Post subject: Gnome2: no AA fonts... Reply with quote

Hi

I did emerge Gnome2 but when I run it and try to change the fonts from the Desktop Preferences -> fonts, the fonts in the preview look awfull (not anti-aliased) or for most of them I get small squares...

note: AA in KDE3 looks beautiful!

Any idea why I get that?

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