new NVidia Beta driver (169.04)

shadowknight · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Aug 2002 Posts: 142

Ok, I got it installed and working, the fix for switching vt's with compiz even works

Something to note though, when running this:

billydv · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject:

Okay, Im having problems with this driver, someone else please try this becuase its happening to me on 2 different boxes, x86 and amd64,
With compiz-fusion running (not kwin), open a konqueror window as super user, then switch to a directory such as etc or usr, then click the K icon in the top right hand corner to open a duplicate window

X at that point crashes for me while running the 169 driver. After downgrading to 100.14.23, the problem goes away. Strange thing is that this doesnt happen when running the same driver in Debian.
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kernelOfTruth · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject:

platojones · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject:

Nope, no problems here...running the new beta driver, kde 3.5.7 and compiz-fuzion 0.6.0. Navigated from my home directory to /etc and /user then hit the new screen window and I'm still alive. I am using emerald as the windows-decorator here. This is an x86 machine, btw. Are you using any unstable packages for kde or X? Could it be your window decorator?

shadowknight · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Aug 2002 Posts: 142

It works here as well using gnome as desktop, compiz 0.6.0. I do seem to have a couple of issues but nothing major. For me the only thing I've noticed so far is that Extreme Tux Racer (my 4 yr old niece loves Tux

)runs a good bit slower than it used to, Doom3 settings had to be cut back a bit, but WoW runs perfectly and that's the only game I really play anyway so I'm not complaining. I was going to eventually post this somewhere anyway, and although it's not related to the new driver directly, it is graphic related, so I'll ask here first and then post somewhere else if I need to. I know glxgears is not really for benchmarking but before my last HD crash, my fps were topping 11,000 with all the same settings I have now. Now I'm not even hitting 100 and even compiz-fusion hovers in the 59-60 range. It's not a issue really since the WoW runs perfectly well, but I'm curious what could be causing this. When my HD went down I was without a pc for several months, and when I got back up and running, I used a fresh install and just copied over my old config files from backup, (make.conf, xorg.conf, etc). Again, it's not a problem really, but I would like to get some opinions on what could be the cause. This was happening with the stable drivers as well, so I know it's not an issue related to the new drivers.

billydv · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:39 am Post subject:

as for kernel hacking heres my config
#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT=y
# CONFIG_PRINTK_TIME is not set
CONFIG_ENABLE_MUST_CHECK=y
CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y
CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HEADERS_CHECK is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL is not set
# CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG_ON is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE is not set

stable only toolchain

gnome 2.20
kde 3.5.8
x 7.2

my compiz is from the live ebuilds, revdep shows nothing

Think I should rememerge compiz and then try it.
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billydv · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:12 am Post subject:

No question, removed and reemerged all compiz and returned the 169 driver, did it right away, must put 2 or 3 open root windows in folders other than root and then try to open duplicate window, crashes x every time.
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kernelOfTruth · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:26 am Post subject:

billydv · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject:

My problem with running xorg 7.3 and server 1.4 is the keyboard problems, when I had 7.3 the caps led and numlock lights were reacting strangely, in fact there were no caps leds at all. I checked the bug status just a couple of days ago and its still broken, but they claim that xorg server 1.4.1 will be out very soon and that will include the fixes. Thats when I'm going to upgrade.
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platojones · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject:

billydv · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject:

I now have updated xorg on my amd64 box and have once again tried to open several root konqueror windows, same exact thing, it may open 1 okay especially outside of the root folder but the 2nd or 3rd now lock up the computer, reboot necessary. Dropped again to the 23 driver and it works fine. Its definitely the 169 driver but it doesnt happen if compiz isnt running.
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billydv · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject:

Okay, I've got a better handle on this, it doesn't matter if you are su or not, if you open enough windows, especially ones with lots of files and folders you get a crash. I want to upgrade my system to a fully ~amd64 and then I am going to give it another try. BTW, the regular nvidia installer done on a debian box works perfectly, therefore it may be an issue with the ebuild or gentoo implementation.
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slycordinator · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:49 am Post subject:

shadowknight · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Aug 2002 Posts: 142

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Has anyone filed a bug report against this? I'm quite surprised to not see 169.04 in portage yet, even if it were masked.

My X will randomly lock up for up to 2 minutes with the current versions, and 169.04 fixes the problem on the same hardware on another machine running Ubuntu.
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slycordinator · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199671

But the devs have said a few times with various bugs that they really don't like adding betas and that they at least wait for RC's.

shadowknight · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Aug 2002 Posts: 142

The last post on bugzilla says:

kernelOfTruth · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject:

dodo1122 · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject:

i started using those drivers since 2 days ago, and i have no problems with them. Seriously, the previous beta drivers are in the tree, so why not this one? :roll:

dodo
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platojones · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject:

Well, there have been some problems reported with these drivers over in nvNEWS, but like many have said, they are fairly stable for a beta release. In my case, they cause a refresh issue in KDE Konsole when using compiz-fusion. Also, switching virtual terminals while running compiz-fuzion doesn't crash X, but it kills compiz-fusion for me. Not biggies, but again, not stable. Since the creating an overlay ebuild is so easy to do, I don't find it a big issue that they aren't in the official tree and am more that willing to leave that kind of policy decision to the dev who is managing this driver. I don't think criticizing him for this reasonable decision will help anything. The true solution is, as always, that Nvidia fix the few problems in this driver and release an RC driver. Given their track record, I think they will before long. I am getting tired of this Konsole refresh bug

slycordinator · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:

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slycordinator · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject:

Nonsequitur. The dev says that he never adds beta drivers (and he's said it before with other beta drivers) then you point out that other drivers that he isn't in control of have had beta drivers added.

shadowknight · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Aug 2002 Posts: 142

I think you misunderstood my intent. I wasn't trying to start an argument. I merely pointing out that previous drivers had beta's in the tree. I have no knowledge of who put them there or why. Also, he's the maintainer so he can do what he wants, doesn't matter to me. I can and have put it in an overlay, so the point it's really a moot point. I was simply voicing my opinion that I PERSONALLY agreed that I thought it should be added, but that's my opinion, to which I am entitled. There's no point in debating it any further.

slycordinator · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:21 am Post subject:

Now I'm confused