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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Official thread: "zen-sources" Reply with quote

*mod edit* - length split - continued here -- think4urs11

"zen-sources"
A stable and featurefull kernel patchset.




* NOTES:
Quote:
"kamikaze-sources" are DEAD. No more releases forever. Last version will be 2.6.24-rc2-kamikaze1.


* GIT REPOSITORY:
Quote:
http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/zen-sources.git


* STABLE SNAPSHOTS PATCHES:
Quote:
http://zen.waninkoko.info/patches


* EBUILDS:
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"zen-sources" ebuilds are available at http://zen.waninkoko.info/ebuilds and the "custom-kernels" overlay.


Howto add the "custom-kernels" overlay:

To add the "custom-kernels" overlay, you need to install and configure "layman":
Code:
# emerge layman
# echo "source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf" >> /etc/make.conf


And then add the "custom-kernels" overlay:
Code:
# layman -a custom-kernels


* QUICK GIT HOWTO:
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If you want to compile "zen-sources" from git and have it updated daily, you just need to follow this steps.

Code:
# cd /usr/src
# git clone git://repo.or.cz/linux-2.6/zen-sources.git


"zen-sources" git repository will be downloaded to your hard disk and ready to be compiled.

Update tree:

Just move to the kernel tree directory and run:
Code:
# git pull


Greetings.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't wait for stable release! Pretty nice name :)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds interesting. I'm looking forward to the first "stable" release. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

change is good, git ftw!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting for stable release here, but i think "kamikaze" was a pretty name :)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not like the name zen. The name suggests to my mind a state of alien peace. Where as kamikaze suggests to me a willingness to plunge ahead regardless of any consequences.

Zen suggests to my mind an unwillingness to change if the current situtation is: if ain't broke don't fix it. That unfaithful saying is contrary to the spirit of this statement: "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

Furthermore if I had a girl and a boy I would name the girl Zen and the boy Kamikazee.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info and I concur with charlie's "name thingy" :)
kamikaze > zen
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't care if it's called "fairy-sources" it's still a bleeding edge linux kernel.

waiting for release.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, kamikaze sounded more mercurial :D. (so did skunk sources ? ;)) whats in a name ? :). (best ones were i guess nitro- and viper- :(.)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloning.. :D
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*subscribes*

THE KING IS DEAD :( - LONG LIVE THE KING :roll:
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miguel are you going to release a git ebuild also? something like -999.ebuild would be nice
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

likewhoa wrote:
i don't care if it's called "fairy-sources" it's still a bleeding edge linux kernel.

waiting for release.
Maybe I should rename the old shadow sources to this? :P Actually, fairy sources sounds either like it's a magical kernel source that works in mysterious ways, or that it's gay which even then it will work while cleaning your computer, but still work in mysterious ways. :roll: :lol:

I will switch to Zen Sources now I guess. So, the Zen sources will always be the latest version from the kernel git, so that means 2.6.24 dev branch for now, right?

Since Git is suppose to allow versioning, is there a way for the Zen sources git be a clone of the kernel git with patches applied to say the stable and dev line? Then a person just needs to check out the version they want?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This what you needed to talk to me about? No biggie...but the next time I'm online, and you see...contact me...if you still need to.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dottout wrote:
Miguel are you going to release a git ebuild also? something like -999.ebuild would be nice


rmh3093 is working on this ;)

ilikenwf: I still want to talk with you but about another thing...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waninkoko wrote:
rmh3093 is working on this ;)

Wow - probably most wanted thing :!:
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If any of you use Ubuntu or one of it's derivatives, or Debian on one of your other boxes, I am going to maintain deb packages, and occasionally release a tarball of the source for config tweakers.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the "releases" and "ebuids".....

You could theoretically pull from the git repo at any time. I personally believe the git repo should be considered "stable" at anyone time. If you update from our git server regularly then it should be easier for you to identify problems (use 'git bisect' to track down the specific commit). However, I realize some of you want some sort of "tried and tested" indicator so after large numbers of commits or major changes we can update the tags and kernel name/version.

There are lots of ways we can provide ebuilds....
1)an ebuild based on patchs relative to official vanilla releases
2)an ebuild based on patches relative to official daily git snapshots but not based on zen tags
3)an ebuild based on patches relative to official daily git snapshots but based on zen tags
4)a live ebuild which pulls from git directly - HEAD
5)a live ebuild which pulls from git directly - tag

OR

you could just clone the repo an pull when you want to update


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 or 5
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as there are stable releases which I can use on a productive server it's all good
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 and 1 please ;-)



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at least #1
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodo1122 wrote:
4 and 1 please ;-)



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at least #1


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at least #1, but also #4 if additionally possible :)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of ebuilds pulling in from a tag so that it is known to be working purely. The head has the feel of something that is just committed and untested.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one & five
can't wait to test this out.

zen-sources++
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