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What kernel sources do you prefer?
vanilla-sources
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gentoo-sources
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other
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardened :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently moved to gentoo-sources. Before I rolled my own from kernel.org, but since I only really need squashfs and gensplash patches, I decided to just go with the flow.

Did try zen-sources, but didn't have such a good experience with them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add me to the ones using gentoo-sources.

Reason? Simply because its stable.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run gentoo-sources, thinking of going to a rt-kernel
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris.c.hogan wrote:
Depends on the system. I'm using gentoo-sources for the desktops, suspend2 (tuxonice now I guess) for laptops, and hardened for the firewall. I used hardened on the desktops for a while. However, too many things broke. I use gentoo-sources for the servers as well. I use distcc quite a bit and I figure it's best to keep a consistent tool-chain.

I hadn't heard of zen-sources. I don't see it in portage. Is there a site that tells about it?


here you go:

2.6.26-rc2-zen0

Official thread: "zen-sources" - Part III

http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/zen-sources.git (git repo)

http://www.zen-sources.org/

on topic:

zen-sources both on my laptop + desktop :)
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardened with hardened gcc 4 :D
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zen-sources on desktop and eee-sources on EeePC, but going to switch to zen-sources also
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vanilla-sources

+ reiser4 (compression rocks. /home, /var (with portage tree), /opt are on reiser4+lzo compression)
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vanilla-sources

+ cko
+ disk_protect
+ fbcondecor
+ hz-864
+ bfq
+ iwlwifi_leds
+ tp_smapi
+ tuxonice
+ swap_prefetch
+ various hacks

I'm not sure if that can still be called a vanilla kernel :D
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuxonice because of the suspend/hibernate patches
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link31 wrote:
vanilla-sources

+ cko
+ disk_protect
+ fbcondecor
+ hz-864
+ bfq
+ iwlwifi_leds
+ tp_smapi
+ tuxonice
+ swap_prefetch
+ various hacks

I'm not sure if that can still be called a vanilla kernel :D

vanilla-cocktail? 8O
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most recent vanilla + grsecurity for my usual machines

vanilla mips + IP30 for the octane(s)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

still on nitro
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentoo-sources
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentoo-sources on main box, dunno why, I tried it and it had everything I wanted.
aufs-sources in cluster image (tricky /)
vanilla-sources on VMs for testing purposes... I wish I could select more than 1 option here.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lately I've just been using vanilla sources, not managed by portage.

In my opinion portage is really not a tool well-suited to installing sources, and this really isn't its fault -- it's just not what it's meant to do. It installs multiple copies of a source tree with tens of thousands of files (instead of being able to directly patch the sources you already have when going from, i.e., 3.10.20 -> 3.10.21), and unmerging is nightmarishly-long if you don't rm -rf the directory first (and it leaves behind remains of compiled files, meaning you still have to manually remove things). On the kernel side, releases are just way too fast to keep up with stabling them in portage (just look at the past month or so -- there have been five 3.10.x releases, some only a few days apart), and there's no clear indication (or separation) of security patches vs. (critical or non-critical) bug fixes vs. feature backports (making it difficult to know if/when it's urgent to upgrade -- especially as the changelog is just a raw git log, often with dozens or hundreds of commits for a LTS point release).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

broken_chaos wrote:
It installs multiple copies of a source tree with tens of thousands of files (instead of being able to directly patch the sources you already have when going from, i.e., 3.10.20 -> 3.10.21)


Would be interesting to have some kind of patch packages; or well, at least just install the diff and not the entire package. Must be possible, but to reach the most clean way needs some discussion...

broken_chaos wrote:
unmerging is nightmarishly-long if you don't rm -rf the directory first (and it leaves behind remains of compiled files, meaning you still have to manually remove things).


Yes, Portage could use additional improvement here. The kernel package is quite a stress test for that functionality...

broken_chaos wrote:
On the kernel side, releases are just way too fast to keep up with stabling them in portage (just look at the past month or so -- there have been five 3.10.x releases, some only a few days apart)


Stabilizing 3.10.x happens on purpose because of the LTS nature of that branch (= API compatibility, much more stable, and so on...) and also due to the brokenness that comes along with 3.11.x (bugs were filed double as much compared to 3.10.x in the same time span) or the 3.12.x being too new to be considered sufficiently stable.

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and there's no clear indication (or separation) of security patches vs. (critical or non-critical) bug fixes vs. feature backports (making it difficult to know if/when it's urgent to upgrade -- especially as the changelog is just a raw git log, often with dozens or hundreds of commits for a LTS point release).


Upstream doesn't clarify this on purpose as when they do it puts a lot of kernel developers and early users at risk, you can follow the CVE's for this if you care about the known vulnerabilities as they get discovered in public (that's usually at a time the early adapters are already patched and it is ready for distro patching); as for the most critical ones, we apply and backport these as well as mask vulnerable versions. The less critical ones depend on the manpower available; given that there's not much people on the kernel team, we are only able to do just what is necessary and a slight bit more. And thus, contributions are always welcome; what makes Gentoo work is its community.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@TomWij,
does it make any sense to not stabilize linux-headers-3.10 then?
They can play some role when compiling multimedia applications. That was an area of changes with 3.10.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomWij, sorry, I wasn't quite clear. My latter two, er, 'complaints' were completely directed towards upstream, and definitely not at Gentoo. The speed of upstream releases and their somewhat fuzzy policies on actually making clear what's changed and why (partly understandable, but still somewhat frustrating) makes it rather hard to keep up (at least for me, at times), and I imagine that goes at least somewhat for Gentoo's stable policies (typically requiring 30 days in ~arch and such). I suppose that's largely just the nature of the beast, when it comes to a project as gigantic (both in amount of code and, especially, amount of contributors) as the kernel.

On the issue of 'patch packages', it'd be quite nice for the kernel sources, but I can't (offhand) think of any other packages in the tree that would benefit much from such a thing. Given how much against portage's nature doing modifications directly to $ROOT, perhaps an external tool would be a better idea. I've considered writing one for myself lately, but doing it manually just hasn't been that much effort.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulenrich wrote:
@TomWij,
does it make any sense to not stabilize linux-headers-3.10 then?


No idea, that's terrain of the kernel-misc herd; probably should get stabilized.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sys-kernel/geek-sources (init6 overlay) with aufs, exfat, fedora and gentoo patches.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sys-kernel/ck-sources

- 3.4 on systems on which some project was launched a year ago
- 3.8 on networkless embedded DAW's
- 3.10 on everything else.

The only problem I get with that package is that its maintainer is systematically busy with something else when I need help. :evil: :roll:
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamakuzure wrote:
sys-kernel/geek-sources (init6 overlay) with aufs, exfat, fedora and gentoo patches.


sys-kernel/geek-sources with "brand exfat fedora grsec ice mageia"
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still running zen. 8)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anon-E-moose wrote:
Still running zen. 8)
I had to ditch zen, because it made my laptop freeze with swap on zram devices whenever anything started to use swap. (That was with kernel 3.11.x, no idea whether this is fixed already.)
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