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thoughtform Guru


Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 564
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:27 am Post subject: Why I came back to Gentoo |
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I'm ashamed to say that about 6 weeks ago I had problem with my Gentoo desktop and, not having done a full re-install since September 2006 or thereabouts, I grabbed a Kubuntu Gutsy alpha3 cd a friend had given me at work and wiped my root partition and installed it.
I'm a 32 year old helpdesk tech who spends 2.5 hours per day on the road back and forth to work, and 9 hours per day at the office.
I just enrolled in an online university to get my B.S. in Information Technology.
I NEED my desktop to WORK.
I lasted 6 weeks with a few hiccups but today's update broke kdm on my system.
So, there I was, stuck in irssi with one console in recovery mode.
Where do I turn for help?? I hopped on freenode and joined one of their channels.
128 users and one user told me to check my xorg logs.
So, i quit irssi and check my Xorg log. Clean.
I come back. 127 users. No one answers my cry for help.
So, dear friends, I wander over to #gentoo
Not only am I promptly greeted but all my questions as to how the heck do I get back on Gentoo with my liveDVD iso sitting on my hard drive
are answered.
I love you folks.
Welcome back, me.
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t35t0r n00b

Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 68 Location: irc.freenode.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | 128 users and one user told me to check my xorg logs.
So, i quit irssi and check my Xorg log. Clean. |
emerge -av screen
learn it, live by it |
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kojiro Apprentice


Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 245 Location: Rochester
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Why I came back to Gentoo |
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| Scorpaen wrote: | | Welcome back, me. |
Welcome back, you!  _________________ >>> Also, customizing emacs can be an exercise in black magic.
>> It's not black magic, it's Lisp.
>There is a difference?
Yes, black magic doesn't use parentheses.
--Linux Users' Group of Rochester mailing list |
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madpinger n00b


Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 10 Location: In your base killing your dudes
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| t35t0r wrote: | | Quote: | 128 users and one user told me to check my xorg logs.
So, i quit irssi and check my Xorg log. Clean. |
emerge -av screen
learn it, live by it |
Indeed screen is the first thing you run.
Welcome back ! _________________ [img]http://share.madpinger.com/files/madpinger/voices.gif[/img]
You need people like me. So you can point your fucking fingers and say "Thats the bad guy." |
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rgk Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 140 Location: ny
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Long Live Gentoo!
You can't stay away from Gentoo long, I can't stay away from it ever. Tried Fedora for a few hours and got sick (livecd) I had to boot Gentoo back up! _________________ MadGizmo.com is awesome. |
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d2_racing Moderator


Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 12867 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome back  _________________ Sysadmin of Funtoo-Québec.org
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enderandrew l33t


Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 731
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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We tried Kubuntu on my wife's laptop because she doesn't have the patience to compile. Several packages didn't work correctly, and her wireless didn't work. I tried making a custom kernel, but there were no development tools installed by default, and some Google searches didn't help out much. I tried posting on the forums, and asking in the chat room and no one was helpful. I finally got all the necessary libs to really start compiling, however when I booted in the custom kernel, the synaptic and ati modules wouldn't load because I didn't have a proper restricted-modules package for my kernel. I asked, and apparently this is a package Kubuntu puts out for their official kernels, and without it, the system blocks loading of an unofficial modules, such as the ATI driver.
I kept asking how to produce such a package, and I was told that I shouldn't run proprietary drivers, nevermind that there is no open source driver for the card in her laptop. I was also told I shouldn't ever attempt to touch or upgrade my kernel, because it is technical and stuff. I said that Kubuntu shipped with an older kernel, and that the newer kernel had an updated wireless stack, and the wireless card worked better, but I was told I should accept my older kernel and like it.
I was also told repeatedly that the root of all my problems was due to running a 64-bit install, and that the (K)ubuntu team didn't really support the 64-bit version, and that I needed to format and install a 32-bit version instead.
The community and official support there was truly horrid. _________________ Nihilism makes me smile. |
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arnvidr Guru


Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 441 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: |
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I've been on Debian for over a year now, because I didn't have the hardware to keep compiling stuff all the time. Why did I choose Debian? No idea, but it's been fairly good to me. Gonna come back to Gentoo now though, I finally have the means to buy myself a new system, and I've missed Gentoo badly! _________________
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enderandrew l33t


Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 731
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: |
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At work they've been asking me to recommend a server distro, and they're considering Red Hat, CentOS, or Ubuntu. I've been trying to steer them to Debian. _________________ Nihilism makes me smile. |
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d2_racing Moderator


Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 12867 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah Debian is a great choice. At work, we are running a lot of Unix server and all the dev server are running with Debian.
Also, one of my friends that works at Universite Laval, says that 70% of all servers are running Debian.
There is currently one server that is running Gentoo, and it's my friend that is the admin  _________________ Sysadmin of Funtoo-Québec.org
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steveL Veteran

Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1441 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| enderandrew wrote: | | At work they've been asking me to recommend a server distro, and they're considering Red Hat, CentOS, or Ubuntu. I've been trying to steer them to Debian. |
If you have to do one of those three, go with CentOS.
Honestly, though, what's wrong with a Gentoo BIN_HOST?! Much easier to maintain in the long run. |
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Suicidal l33t


Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 913 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| steveL wrote: | | enderandrew wrote: | | At work they've been asking me to recommend a server distro, and they're considering Red Hat, CentOS, or Ubuntu. I've been trying to steer them to Debian. |
If you have to do one of those three, go with CentOS.
Honestly, though, what's wrong with a Gentoo BIN_HOST?! Much easier to maintain in the long run. |
Depends what they are going to use it for CentOS probably the best price || performance || binary compatibility, alot of business wouldn't consider Gentoo because there is no "Official" support. Which I think is crap but what do you expect from management. |
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curtis119 Bodhisattva


Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2158 Location: Toledo, OH, USA, North America, Earth, SOL System, Milky Way, The Universe, The Cosmos, and Beyond.
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frenkel Veteran


Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1034 Location: .nl
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Don't expect an alpha3 release to "JUST WORK"...
Anyways, welcome back! |
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steveL Veteran

Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1441 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Suicidal wrote: | | steveL wrote: | | Honestly, though, what's wrong with a Gentoo BIN_HOST?! Much easier to maintain in the long run. |
alot of business wouldn't consider Gentoo because there is no "Official" support. Which I think is crap but what do you expect from management. |
Not much, but that's when you smile and say: "But, boss, that's what you pay me for.. now about that raise " |
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