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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: vmware with kernel higher than 2.6.18 (64bit) Reply with quote

Hello.

Someone tried the vmware-any-any-update-112 (http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/)? Is it possible to use vmware workstation again on a 64 bit machine with kernel higher than 2.6.18?

Just in case i am the only one. My Virtual machines crashed hard with kernel higher than 2.6.18.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run vmware workstation from portage on ~amd64 with gentoo 2.6.21-gentoo-r3 kernel, only problem I have is that vmware-modules won't compile on a 2.6.22 kernel. It's a know bug and should be fixed in the next vmware release iirc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Thanks for the information System33.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: vmware with kernel higher than 2.6.18 (64bit) Reply with quote

himpierre wrote:
Hello.

Someone tried the vmware-any-any-update-112 (http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/)? Is it possible to use vmware workstation again on a 64 bit machine with kernel higher than 2.6.18?


Tried 112 because nothing else worked on 2.6.22. 112 works fine here, though I only tested it for 5 minutes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm this problem.
However for me 2.6.20-r8 still works fine.

vmware-modules only compiles correctly under 2.6.22 with the 112 any-update. But it still doesn't solve the problem.
My VMware seems to freeze up my IO (keyboard and mouse) but leaves the rest of my machine's processes running. The only way I can recover is to log in remotely and tell the system to reboot.

Also, it is an intermittent problem which only seems to happen with certain (network?) activity inside vmware. But it seems I can reproduce it every time by going to youtube inside my virtual machine.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vmware-modules problem seems to be fixed now in terms of it not emerging properly, however, I continue to have freeze-ups. I have tried to upgrade my vm but it says that it is up to date. I get the same behavior described in this thread with I/O dying. Not sure how to proceed. Fortunately, I just "play with" Solaris on vmware; I don't really need it for anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After upgrading my kernel among various other things I was experiencing hanging with my VM's (Vmware-server-1.0.3), I just uninstalled VMware and re-installed and everything went back to normal. Also i can confirm that vmware-modules compiles fine with vmware-any-any-update110 (haven't tested 111 or 112 but I'd assume anything newer than 110 should work fine) For those with the network problems what driver are u using? What is the Guest system? I assume the host is gentoo.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Network Card Related Reply with quote

As an added datapoint, if I pull the network card off of my VMs I don't see freezes.

I'm running Gentoo ~amd64 w/ the 2.6.22 kernel on a Dell E1505.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Network Card Related Reply with quote

basking2 wrote:
As an added datapoint, if I pull the network card off of my VMs I don't see freezes.

I'm running Gentoo ~amd64 w/ the 2.6.22 kernel

Same thing for me with amd64 and 2.6.22.
Works without network, but impossible to use with network.
This issue is recent because I use this VM for years.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to bump this, but I can confirm this as well. I was looking into reporting it to vmware, but wasn't sure of the proper route to take in order to do that. Suggestions anyone?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too get a hard freeze up when I run a vmware virtual machine. Removing network adapter from Virtual machine makes no difference. I have no prblem at all running kernel 2.6.20-gentoio-r3. The problem appears with kernel 2.6.21-gentoo-rx and 2.6.22-gentoo-rx. I compile the newer kernels using make oldconfig with working 2.6.20 config as source. With kernels 2.6.21 & 22 I can bring up vmware and start booting a virtual machine but usually whole system freezes before vm completely boots up. Not even magic SysRq key will respond.

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running x86_64 smp kernel on AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200 AM2 CPU, Asrock 939 Sata2 Mobo, 3 Gigs ram, SATA2 hard drive, GeForce 7300 with 128 MB, ali15x3 chipset drivers, uli526x ethernet driver.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

same here, i have backed down to gentoo-source 2.6.16-r13 after the week long hard lockups when running vmware workstattion. i have tested many combinations of the kernels, threadlocking models, etc and this problem persists even in the vanilla kernel branch.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm VMWare works on 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 (amd64) but hangs with linux-2.6.22-gentoo-r2. Unfortunately for me all kernels in between have buggy w83627ehf sensor implementations.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm having no problems using the vanilla kernel 2.6.22.1 from www.kernel.org on my Core2Duo using the amd64 profile. VMWare player is working great.

* app-emulation/vmware-modules
Latest version available: 1.0.0.15-r1
Latest version installed: 1.0.0.15-r1
Size of files: 458 kB
Homepage: http://www.vmware.com/
Description: Modules for Vmware Programs
License: vmware

* app-emulation/vmware-player
Latest version available: 1.0.3.34682-r1
Latest version installed: 1.0.3.34682-r1
Size of files: 38,897 kB
Homepage: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
Description: Emulate a complete PC on your PC without the usual performance overhead of most emulators
License: vmware

/etc/portage/package.keywords:
app-emulation/vmware-player ~amd64
app-emulation/vmware-modules ~amd64

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lyric340 wrote:
Hi,

I'm having no problems using the vanilla kernel 2.6.22.1 from www.kernel.org on my Core2Duo using the amd64 profile. VMWare player is working great.




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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look at:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_VMware
on section " vmware on kernel 2.6.22"

And also on:
http://npw.net/2007/05/17/vmware-workstation-60-on-linux-2622/
http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=720402
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so does this happen with VMWare6 also?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone tried vmware any-to-any-113?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you see changelog:

vmware-any-any-update113.tar.gz
Change ASSERT_ON_COMPILE to make g++ 3.4 happy.



It will not help you, unless you use gcc 3.4
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amd64-current toolchain are on 4.1.2 right now, there are major ABI differences between 3.4 and 4.x
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amd processor with 2.6.22 kernel and everything is running fine even with the network (NAT) enabled.

emerge info:
Code:

loser@Hell ~ $ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.3.6 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.22-ragnarok1 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.22-ragnarok1 x86_64 Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 175
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.10
Timestamp of tree: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:00:11 +0000
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.18.1
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.17.50.0.18
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.24
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.22-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -fgcse-after-reload -fno-ident -fweb -msse3 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /e
tc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -fgcse-after-reload -fno-ident -fweb -msse3 -pipe -fno-enforce-eh-specs -fvisibility-inlines-hidden"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks fixpackages metadata-transfer parallel-fetch sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org/"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=both"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after -
-stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acl acpi alsa amd64 artworkextra avi bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo cdparanoia
cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dio directfb divx dv dvd dvdr dvdread emboss emul-linux-x86 encode evo fam fbcon ffmpeg firef
ox flac fortran ftp gdbm gif glibc-omitfp glut gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtstreamer hal iconv ieee1394 ipv6 isdnlog ithread
s java javascript jpeg kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility kerberos ldap lm_sensors mad madwifi midi mikmod mmx mmxext mng mp3
mpeg mudflap ncurses nfs nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ogg openal opengl openmp oss pam pcmcia pcre pdf perl php png pn
i pppd python qt3support quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session smp spell spl sse sse2 ssl svg symlink tcpd threads t
iff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb videos vorbis wifi xml xorg xv xvid zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atii
xp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident
 usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks ie
c958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboa
rd mouse synaptics" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAN
D="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia vmware"
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_R
SYNC_EXTRA_OPTS


Code:

 [I] app-emulation/vmware-modules
     Available versions:  1.0.0.11-r1 1.0.0.13-r1 1.0.0.15-r1 [M](~)1.0.0.16 {kernel_linux}
     Installed versions:  1.0.0.15-r1(12:28:31 08/07/07)(kernel_linux)
     Homepage:            http://www.vmware.com/
     Description:         Modules for Vmware Programs



Code:
[I] app-emulation/vmware-server
     Available versions:  (~)1.0.3.44356
     Installed versions:  1.0.3.44356(16:38:40 04/28/07)
     Homepage:            http://www.vmware.com/
     Description:         VMware Server for Linux



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's your guest OS?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 3 VM's ... WinXP, Gentoo $ FreeBSD all of which are running fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, the only complie problem I had with vmware was with vmxnet.

There is a fix / work around for the vmxnet compile problem on kernels >= 2.6.19.
It is described here:

http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=62836&tstart=0

It works as promised.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I confirm that VMware hangs with or without net on gentoo-sources 2.6.21-r4 and 2.6.22-r2

On gentoo-sources 2.6.20* works OK

Code:
$ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:30:09 +0000
distcc 2.18.3 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled]
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
dev-util/ccache:     2.4-r7
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.24
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.21
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="ccache distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"
LANG="pl_PL.utf8"
LC_ALL="pl_PL.utf8"
LINGUAS="pl"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa amd64 asf audiofile bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dga divx dri dv dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode evo fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal iconv isdnlog java jikes jpeg kde kerberos ldap mad midi mikmod mmx mng mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session speex spell spl sse sse2 ssl subversion svg tcpd threads tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb vcd vorbis wmf xcomposite xml xorg xprint xv xvid zlib" ALSA_CARDS="emu10k1" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="pl" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia"
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
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