Grub Error Collection [Part 8] [POST GRUB QUESTIONS HERE!]

flacvest · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Cool trick Neddy

It says the paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/Mb6iNX18.html

I checked and it's my log, so I hope it helps you discern my problem.
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flacvest · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: well I am back at square one....

I had to shut the system down due to some electrical work, and rebooted hoping it would pick up the *-flacvest kernel but alas, no.

I don't know what to say Neddy, should I give up and wipe the disks reinstalling fresh, or do you think its worth working out?

I know the system finds the new *-flacvest kernel in chroot, but GRUB doesn't know anything about it, and what's the point of that then?

I'm a lot out of my element, and I know Hardy was impossibly unstable for my hardware. So I don't know what to do next. It would be a shame to throw out a system that was nearly configured as intended, minus some proprietary software that's been put on hold due to the problems I'm having getting any Linux to go...

I'm getting discouraged, but I realize you didn't sign up to be my babysitter. What's your honest opinion on what to do next?

Desperately Seeking Susan,
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Moriah · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:02 am Post subject:

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I just gotta ask it. Is your /boot partition mounted when you copy the kernel to /boot, and when you edit grub.conf, or did you forget to mount it? I have made this careless little mistake more times than I would like to mention. If /boot does not show up as a mounted partition when you do df, then it sin't mounted. In this cae, when you copy yur kernel and edit grub.conf, you are working in the /boot directory that gets hidden when you use /boot as a mount point to mount /dev/sda1 (or whatever your boot partition is...). If you do this, you will see your kernel and edited grub.conf when you are in a shell, but when you reboot, grub comes up and looks in the /dev/sda1 partition, not the /boot directory, and the new stuff isn't there.

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flacvest · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: Very good question

I go through a lengthy mount process, and I'm ?fairly? certain I mount the /boot partition. Is there anything magical I can check for tomorrow (cuz I've had it for today, if you know Sailor Moon, then you know I'm in the Negaverse right now). I will try to regroup and discern all sage-like wisdom (NOT being an arse, promise) tomorrow when I stop hating on myself and get all all rational again. BTW I dig the rat avatar. Thx for your efforts in helping. (I feel guilty for being such a forum hog, I hope it helps someone someday)...

could you do me the favor of explaining "df"

Best to Everyone, and Thanks,

Humbly Yours,
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject:

flacvest,

It is almost never a good idea to wipe gentoo and reinstall it, simply becuase it almost never fixes the problem.
It may work if the problem was 'finger trouble', and you get that step right next time.

You want to fix Xorg and you want another kernel. Reinstalling will not fix either issue as both are configuration issues.
Reinstalling is a bad habit you picked up while using another OS.

Your Xorg.0.log shows that the VESA driver cannot find any graphics chips it knows how to drive, however, its looking on

Rede · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 67

Can anyone help me set up my grub.conf file? I am having no luck.

I have Vista installed on sda and have install gentoo on sdb with the following partitions:

sdb1 /boot
sdb2 swap
sdb3 /

I can set grub up to get into my windows install but not my gentoo, can someone please let me know what i have to put in my grub.conf.

Thanks

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject:

Rede,

Please tell us the error message you et when you try to boot Gentoo.
Why do you think grub.conf is wrong ?
Please post your grub.conf
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Rede · n00b Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 67

Its all good I fixed my problem.

Please disregard my post, thanks anyway

big-Job · n00b Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Redmond WA

[*] I have installed GRUB on a dual boot XP / Linux machine. But now when the system boots it gives the following message

'Searching for Boot record from IDE-0..OK'
GRUB Loading stage1.5
GRUB loading, please wait...
Error 17'

The system i am using does not have a CD drive or a floppy. It does have windows XP installed on the first partition.

How can I get past this Error 17 message and get the system working again either in Linux or windows? I know I have to edit GRUB but I can't work out how to do that at boot time.

thanks

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject:

Big-Job

Welcome to gentoo. info grub says

Moriah · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:59 am Post subject:

If you do not have a CD drive, if you can temporarily install one, that would make your life easier. If that is not possible, maybe you could remove the hard drive and install it on another system that is already running linux, or at least has a cd drive you could boot a livecd with. Either approach would allow you to work on the offending hard drive as a pure data drive, including doing the chroot, etc. if needed. You could at least run grub to reinstall it, but beware bioses that renumber devices in weird ways. :evil:

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Punami · n00b Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 14 Location: /dev/null

Hi,

I've got the error 15 problem - how to solve?

Details:
Grub is running on hda3, my linux ext2 Partion.
Windows, my old OS is running on hda1. It works fine with GRUB.

Just if i try to boot linux I got the error 15, File not found. But the bzImage is in /boot directory.

I ve run emerge grub-install during the installation of gentoo.

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject:

Punami,

Grub is loading and reading your grub.conf file ... thats the good news.

Error 15 means the file names that grub is looking for are not found.
This can mean that your

Punami · n00b Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 14 Location: /dev/null

Grub.conf

NeddySeagoon · kernel-2.6.24-gentoo-r5

Punami,

grub.conf says

Punami · n00b Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 14 Location: /dev/null

Ouhhh...

Thanks...

Sometimes I'm very stupid :roll:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject:

Punami,

Its not stupid.
You read what you thought your wrote. Thats why its easy for someone looking over your shoulder to see what you miss.
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Moriah · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:04 am Post subject:

I just purchased 4 Gateway boxes that came off lease. Got a good price on them. I am replacing some older machines: a pair of winchip 200 MHz boxes, a Pentium 233 MHz box, and a Pentium 600 MHz Coppermine box. These old machines are going to the spare parts graveyard. They are just too slow for this day and age. They have served well, but retirement time is here. :cry:

The new Gateways are 3 GHz hyper-threading Pentiums with 40 GB SATA drives, and IDE CD/ROM drives, and 512 MB ram. Three of these boxes are destined to become firewalls and VPN servers; they get an extra ethernet port installed into the PCI bus. The remaining box is to become a "virtual workstation" -- it will be accessed via VNC remotely; it got 1.5 GB ram, and will get a much bigger disk drive.

I burned a nice fresh livecd-i686-installer-2008.0_beta2-r1.iso to boot in the CD drive, but it won't boot! Instead of the familiar grub kernel selection menu screen, I just get a bare grub> prompt.

I have fiddled with the BIOS settings until I am blue in the face. I googled hoping to find some clue. Now that I have done my due dilligence, I come crawling on my hands and knees begging shamefully for help. :oops:

Anybody know how to boot a livecd on these boxes?

Thanks!

PS I know these boxes will boot from the 40 GB SATA drives in them, because they come up in windoze xp pro if there is no CD in them. :evil:

It also boots the windoze xp pro install CD just fine.

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NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

Well, there's no error message, but this does seem like a problem. After doing a fresh install on a new computer, GRUB is unusually slow to load. It takes a couple seconds to display the first line (regarding, "Loading GRUB..."), and then it hangs for an additional couple seconds before saying it again and going to the GRUB menu. On my other computers (which were installed using various "releases" of Gentoo (2007.0, et cetera), GRUB didn't seem to take this long. I'm just looking for a way to troubleshoot the problem. Is it possibly a problem with the HDD (different than the one onto which Gentoo is installed)?
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spindle · Apprentice Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 245

I couldn't find any reference to this issue in the forum. Apologies if this was already covered here.

I got this message today when upgrading stage1 and stage2.

cairo · n00b Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 2

i think i have mess up myself, i got two separate hardisks
hda --> window xp
hdb --> gentoo

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

Well you do have some problems with your grub.conf, but that wouldn't cause it to skip grub completely. The problem is more likely related to grub getting loaded into the MBR. Here's how your grub.conf should look:

jordanwb · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject:

jordanwb,

The file named *exactly* linux-2.6.26 is not found on root (hd0,4) (/dev/sda5 ?)