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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: [Solved]Ultra 5 333 MHZ can't get Gentoo to install Reply with quote

OK so I haven't worked much with Linux before but since there was a server lying around in my house I'd thought I'd try to turn it into a gaming server. I so I got the Gentoo Universal CD and put it the Sun Ultra 5 IIi and when I try to install it using the boot from cd-rom command I get an Illegal Instruction error after it checks the memory and such. When I looked around the Gentoo website it said that I need a kernel called 2.4.32-sparc-r4 but when I looked I couldn't find it for download. Its getting really annoying because it seems Gentoo is the distribution that will work with the server so I need some help.

Please help! I will provide more information if necessary.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a hardware issue....
what happens if you try a different bootcd? maybe debian-sparc (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/sparc/iso-cd/)
if you get the same error, it is most likely a hardware issue, if not...we can troubleshoot further.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You need the install-sparc64-universal-2007.0.iso, that should be fine on a IIi CPU
Did it download properly ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ned - That's the one I downloaded and I think it downloaded properly because I didn't get any errors

Rizz - Ok tried the debian. Same thing. It says Illegal Instruction after the kernal ramdisk part.

Also its already got Solaris OS on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you boot into solaris correctly?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Define correctly?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you get this error when booting into Solaris
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try upgrading the OBP to the latest version to begin with, in the meantime you do "setenv auto-boot? false" in obp, power the machine off, back on and THEN try booting from cdrom (it's a stupid obp bug when booting solaris that leaves things messed up for other operating systems).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok the shut it down completely and start it up again worked but Gentoo could not find my ethernet connection or something,
so I installed Debian.

Thanks for all the help with the Sparc System. I couldn't have done it without you guys.

Another question arose: How do I run Windows apps on my server? I couldn't find Wine for Sparc so I was wondering if there was another way. I'm trying to run a game server that hosts games like Half-life, Unreal 2004, and Battlefield 1942.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sithguy,

You don't run Windows games on a Sparc CPU.

WINE provides the Windows API on Linux. The Windows programs execute natively on the CPU.
WINe makes them believe they have windows by doing what windows would do.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but I don't know what Wine to use for Sparc and whatever distro. I looked on the website and looked for the sparc distrubution and couldn't find it. Is there one?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, WINE DOESN'T WORK ON SPARC since it doesn't emulate an x86 cpu (and sparc is completely different), got it now?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tried the livecd / boot cd on an ultra 5 too and failed. i googled a bit and think its a kernel bug. i was able to net boot it and install.

also, no windows apps will work on that. 333 MHz is too slow, and you would need an emulator too btw....

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang it! No windows apps,eh? Well what am I supposed to do with it then? Is there like some page somewhere I look over my options.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhhh.....

staying on topic, did you get it to boot ? i had to netboot mine.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah mine worked. Just follow the above steps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sithguy wrote:
Dang it! No windows apps,eh? Well what am I supposed to do with it then? Is there like some page somewhere I look over my options.


You can do most things that you can do with an x86 box with linux on it - appart from a few applications that require a x86 cpu (like wine does).

Running windows apps with an emulator (dont actually know of one since I havnt tried this) would be pig slow on that box anyway.

I used mine as a home e-mail / file server / firewall / LAMP server.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: [Solved]Ultra 5 333 MHZ can't get Gentoo to install Reply with quote

sithguy wrote:
OK so I haven't worked much with Linux before but since there was a server lying around in my house I'd thought I'd try to turn it into a gaming server. I so I got the Gentoo Universal CD and put it the Sun Ultra 5 IIi and when I try to install it using the boot from cd-rom command I get an Illegal Instruction error after it checks the memory and such. When I looked around the Gentoo website it said that I need a kernel called 2.4.32-sparc-r4 but when I looked I couldn't find it for download. Its getting really annoying because it seems Gentoo is the distribution that will work with the server so I need some help.

Please help! I will provide more information if necessary.
-Sithguy


If you are going to run it as a Gaming Server, then depending on what game you want it to Serve, then it might be just fine. When you have a true server, you are not running the client on it as well, you don't need a graphics card, your not running wine, or anything like that. They make linux ports for many server side games. What games do you plan on making it serve?

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