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Ziggy
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 Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 4:37 pm Post subject: Alternative way of fetching package sources |
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I realize that emerge can collect packages, but i must download at work using a windows box, then take the files home on cd.
Doing downloads at home is not an option..
So... is there anything i can do? And yes i realize stage3 will get me running with out having to connect at home, but i do want sources too..
And for getting 'updates' down the road. |
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delta407
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| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| This has been posted many times; try this thread. |
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klieber
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| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Please make sure to search before posting. This thread was asked/answered earlier this morning, as well as several other times in the archives.
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Ziggy
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 6:52 pm Post subject: Awk?? |
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| delta407 wrote: | | This has been posted many times; try this thread. |
I did search, and saw that, but i didnt think awk would run under windows.. as my post stated is a limitation for me as my only choice.
Thus me posting. |
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delta407
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| You could always use cygwin. But, you need to do a partial install to get emerge to dump a list of packages, anyway... |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| delta407 wrote: | | You could always use cygwin. But, you need to do a partial install to get emerge to dump a list of packages, anyway... |
So the net result is im screwed? as i cant run anything but what is offered to me here at the office( windows2000). and downloading from home where i have that freedom of my OS choice isnt an option .( i can barely get my daily email at home ).
Guess i settle for a binary based stage3.. |
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delta407
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well not totally screwed, just mostly.  The other option would be to quietly bring in your home computer, emerge -f whatever packes you want, and then quietly run away hoping nobody notices.
Keep in mind that Gentoo isn't designed for ease-of-use when it comes to low-bandwidth situations. I personally would not choose Gentoo for a desktop if I were on anything less permanent or speedy than DSL. As cool as Gentoo is, there are situations where it can be just too much of a hassle to deal with.
Best of luck to you. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| delta407 wrote: | Well not totally screwed, just mostly. The other option would be to quietly bring in your home computer, emerge -f whatever packes you want, and then quietly run away hoping nobody notices.
Keep in mind that Gentoo isn't designed for ease-of-use when it comes to low-bandwidth situations. I personally would not choose Gentoo for a desktop if I were on anything less permanent or speedy than DSL. As cool as Gentoo is, there are situations where it can be just too much of a hassle to deal with.
Best of luck to you. |
Thats the conclusion im coming too, that i stick with another distro for the time being and continue work on my own tiny one. I just am tired of the super-bloat distros the rest have become over the years.
To bring mine in, would be hard .. considering hte metal detctors at the doors  and that our switches are keyed to the MAC id on the ethernetcards and tied to a particular port..
But thanks.. at least i wont continue to beat my head against the wall on this. |
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delta407
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I just am tired of the super-bloat distros the rest have become over the years. |
You might want to try Slackware or Debian.
| Quote: | | considering hte metal detctors at the doors |
You could cause a "disturbance in the force"... err, the circuit breaker, I mean. Though that probably wouldn't go over too well.
| Quote: | | and that our switches are keyed to the MAC id on the ethernetcards and tied to a particular port |
Oh, come on, you can deal with that. Just rip the NIC out. |
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klieber
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Awk?? |
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| Ziggy wrote: | | I did search, and saw that, but i didnt think awk would run under windows.. as my post stated is a limitation for me as my only choice. |
You don't have to use awk. You can use find/replace in notepad, if you want. The key is to get a list of packages required for system. You should be able to do that from home by partially completing the stage 1 install process. Before you actually emerge system, do:
| Code: | | emerge -p system > mytextfile.txt |
Put that text file on a floppy. Take it into work. Do some fancy finding/replacing on it and get a list that you can feed to wget.
If you're looking for a simple, easy-to-use solution that runs on windows, it doesn't exist. You're trying to install gentoo in a non-standard fashion, so any solution is going to involve some creative work-arounds.
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fghellar
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Awk?? |
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| klieber wrote: | | You can use find/replace in notepad, if you want. |
Well, not exactly. The problem is some packages need more than one file to be downloaded (e.g. xfree, ghostscript), and there's no way to tell what files just from the package name. That's why I made that script that way... In any case, I don't see a way of getting a list of files to download without having access to a Portage tree and emerge/ebuild.
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klieber
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OK, so I take it back. Yes, you're screwed.
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jtanner
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Umm...maybe you can find a friend or someone in a LUG that has a broadband connection?
I don't think debian is a very good choice for low-bandwidth situations either--how can he update/install pacakges that aren't on the base cd? RedHat is probably the best for this situation--lots of packages on media, and a cohesive upgrade policy.
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klieber
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| jtanner wrote: | | and a cohesive upgrade policy. |
Debian has a cohesive upgrade policy. It's just r e a l l y s l o w.
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| If it helps, Cygwin should be installable under NT-kernels for just a single user, if I correctly remember the install options I never used. -- awk and wget should be obtainable that way. |
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jtanner
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| Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2002 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| klieber wrote: |
Debian has a cohesive upgrade policy. It's just r e a l l y s l o w.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. Debian doesn't have a good upgrade policy using media (that I know about). Since Redhat is entirely on media, there wouldn't have to be any long downloads in order to upgrade, and their upgrades always worked for me.
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