Gentoo 2007.0 GUI Installer is buggy

mudrii · l33t Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 789 Location: Singapore

Yup is Alpha 1 at least .
On AMD DVD on desktop after boot is a link to documentation that not exist at all so go back to minimal or just use Knoppix or any other live cd-dvd that works.
I really hope gentoo devs will take notice on all this issues and do something before releasing sub decent quality cds dvds
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Kasumi_Ninja · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject:

Why is this topics a sticky??? Reading all these comments I decided to download the livecd myself to check it out. I am typing this from the livecd. All is working like it should, hardware gets properly detected, a link to the documentation on the desktop which is working, internet is up. The only problem I encountered thus far is poor performance in X due to using the vesa driver for my nvidia card.

I haven't tested the installer and I will not test it 'cause I have no intention of using it.

drescherjm · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject:

I am also running from a 2007.0 livecd right now. That part worked fine but the gtk installer hangs (no progress after several minutes and no disk activity) every time when trying to install perl (which I believe is package 50 out of 116). This was from the build from cd option. This is the amd64 version on a dell latitude D820 core2 laptop. I was thinking my cd was corrupt but k3b said it was ok and it verified the md5 sum.
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marstonis · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject:

Everybody who is having problems on old boxes might want to try booting with the acpi=off option. I have had so many instances of what I am reading here and the amount of times that things have just worked after doing such is quite astonishing to say the least.

Good luck!

Kasumi_Ninja · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:34 am Post subject:

Matthijs70 · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:15 am Post subject:

I also have an issue with Grub on a ML370R01, RAID controller is detected but it fails for grub and from there you can only exit.

BTW ... 2007.0 doesn't boot on ML270R01 at all .. you need the option ide=nodma (seems it's now forced).

drescherjm · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject:

Well, selecting download from a stage stage3 instead of build from cd worked.

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guid0 · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject:

i tried the gui installer on the amd64 dvd exactly 25 times i never got it to
complete a run.

this was caused by many, many things and perhaps i should give it
another go so i can start sending bugreports...

but hey, luckily the gentoo gui installer is _optional_ and thus i reverted
to the good olde text install over ssh

furthermore, the GLI (the gui installer) is at v0.4, not at v1.0 so im not complaining.

at this moment my new dell m1210 laptop is up and running and the only
thing that seems to be not ok is a corrupted splash.xpm.gz in grub which
i will take a look at some other time.

cheers and good luck with 2007.0

guid0

rhomp2002 · n00b Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 20 Location: jamaica, ny

Then I upgraded to 2007.0 and it all fell apart. I did the emerge sync and it crashed in the middle and I have not been able to emerge anything since. Everytime it does I get about 8 error messages pointing to use flags that are not working right and then everything I try to do after that crashes. I am going to take a couple of days off from Gentooing because it ended up crashing all my partitions and I have to rebuild everything else (5 distros) including Sabayon which is based on Gentoo and works wonderfully. After that maybe I will take another chance on Gentoo but I will stay away from 2007.0 for now. :evil:

wolfger · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject:

I've got to pile on to the complaints. This is a release??!? It won't partition my drive at all, although it had no problem clearing my existing partitions *immediately* and *without warning*. Trying the recommended partitioning yields the following error:
Could not create <PedFileSystemType object

Also, the keyboard driver (?) is buggy. Keys are often repeating as I type.

Going to download and try 2006.1 now, per many user recommendations. What the hell is going on here? :evil:

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Genewb · Apprentice Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 165

heavenscent · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 20

I decided to give the 2007.0 release a go after trying the new debian and ubuntu. I abandoned Gentoo after continuing problems rising from simple emerges but after trying the aforementioned distro's, I realised that on my machine (6 years old) gentoo outshone them both. *Sigh* During the install an error occurred that the system couldn't load the kernel, modules or initramfs! After several tries and the same problem everytime I abandoned the installer went into ubuntu chrooted to the partial gentoo install and finished the install that way. Now going all okay and working excellently and much better/faster than Debian or Ubuntu. Pity it took me a couple of days to undo what the installer had done!
Gentoo is getting some bad press at the moment (and rightly so) with the apparent problems between devs a paramount concern and which is holding up and retarding Gentoo's development. Ego is a dirty word.
The release of this absurdly buggy installer will set gentoo back. New users to Gentoo trying this out will have a bad taste in their mouth and a possibly blank hard drive. Thank goodness that my previous Gentoo education alerted me to the fact that the partitioning protocol used in the installer was a mistake waiting to happen and indeed has proved so. Pity the poor people who lost it all thanks to the Gentoo installer. Did any devs try this 2007.0 abomination out before it's release? And why is it still available to download????? Having said all this though, it is apparent to me at least, that gentoo is the best distro around... shame about the internal politics.*edit* and the completely bullshit installer.. pretty in this case didn't cut it.

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genblood · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject:

I've being using Gentoo for a few years now. An I got to say ...
This shouldn't have been released to the public ...

Their is too many issues that needed fixing IMHO ...

Issues with ati drivers, the gui installer, dvd hardware ...

Don't get me wrong ... I like Gentoo when it works ...
but lately the quality of new releases have dropped ... :cry:

I'll still use Gentoo ... I just have to learn how to fix it myself ...
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luminoso · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject:

whyyyyy?? whyyyyy waste time and resources with GUI??? :cry:

also, if 2007 was a NON-GUI, with a GOOD stage{1,2,3} everything would be a lot better! hurray!
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twallace · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject:

I had problems with the live CD for Gentoo 2006.0 and 2006.1. Then I realized that if I wanted an automatic install, I should go for a binary distribution like Suse (which is very good btw). If you want to really learn Linux however, you should go for the Gentoo manual install - forget the Live CD and download the minimal install CD!!.
Granted, the manual install has a pretty steep learning curve and I got discouraged many times in this last year getting to the system I wanted.
Maybe I can help you however. I put down the details of my experience, of getting from ground zero to Open Office and mplayer surround sound, on my web site http://web.supernet.com.bo/twallace/
Let me know where I could have done better. Thanks

richard.scott · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:16 am Post subject:

Ateo · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject:

Tell me about it. My downloaded ISO doesn't work on 2 completely different machines.

Very sad.

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marcus0263 · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject:

Just finished the install and everything went smooth, actually one of the smoothest. Of course I don't waste the time with the live DVD, just did my usual Stage 1 install and it went off without a hitch.

So to sum it all up, 2007.0 release is great.
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burlingk · n00b Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 6

MrVahn · Apprentice Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 227 Location: Makati

Luckily, laptop ram is easily upgradeable nowadays.

Guys get over it. Stop using the live cd. Go for the minimal install CD. It offers more control and stability than the gui version.

Volt_Craft · n00b Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 2

Hi pople!!!

I've downloaded and tested the Gentoo Live-CD 2007.0 and I've saw some problems.

1-Problems with some of the of-boards video-bords, like the N-VIDIA and ATI series.
2-Grub don't boot windows some times, because it don't find it or get a cilindres error.
3-It just break down on some machines like an AMD Duron 1.2 with 256mb RAM (mother-board M810).
4-On some old machines like an K6-II 500MHZ with an HD Sansung 20gb, it may broke the HD (mother-board M530lmr).

Why the developers don't use LILO , add N-VIDIA & ATI drivers and check the hardware detection sistem? :?: