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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Does grub still work with Windows Vista? Reply with quote

I thought I read somewhere that Vista would not work with Grub... is this true?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Does grub still work with Windows Vista? Reply with quote

Thaidog wrote:
I thought I read somewhere that Vista would not work with Grub... is this true?


No, it works ;) The exact same way of XP :)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: Does grub still work with Windows Vista? SOLVED Reply with quote

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Thaidog wrote:
I thought I read somewhere that Vista would not work with Grub... is this true?


No, it works ;) The exact same way of XP :)


Ok good! thx!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember google is your friend :D
See http://www.apcstart.com/5162/the_definitive_dual_booting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp for any details.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Remember google is your friend :D
See http://www.apcstart.com/5162/the_definitive_dual_booting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp for any details.


Too much details here ;) (Well, it helps if you never dual-booted).

If you already have a Gentoo/WinXP dual boot and you plan to install Vista over XP, just install Vista on the XP partition (or upgrade your XP... to an OS 6 years more recent and pray 8O), then use a LiveCD to reinstall Grub on the MBR... Then only change "Windows XP" label for "Windows Vista" in your grub .conf ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For that matter, any non GNU/Linux OS can be loaded in this method (such as a recovery partition in your computer, etc). All the command tells the computer to do is to load that partition like it would if it was the only partition on the PC. Other partition based OSes require specialized commands.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dylnuge wrote:
For that matter, any non GNU/Linux OS can be loaded in this method (such as a recovery partition in your computer, etc). All the command tells the computer to do is to load that partition like it would if it was the only partition on the PC. Other partition based OSes require specialized commands.


I read that Mac OSX doesn't work with Grub, as it can't be loaded via the MBR. For MacOS/Linux, it stays simple, but for a triple boot, it becomes more complicated ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dylnuge wrote:
For that matter, any non GNU/Linux OS can be loaded in this method (such as a recovery partition in your computer, etc). All the command tells the computer to do is to load that partition like it would if it was the only partition on the PC. Other partition based OSes require specialized commands.


I read that Mac OSX doesn't work with Grub, as it can't be loaded via the MBR. For MacOS/Linux, it stays simple, but for a triple boot, it becomes more complicated ;)


That's correct. They use the Itanium boot sector method actually. GUID.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeanfrancis wrote:
If you already have a Gentoo/WinXP dual boot and you plan to install Vista over XP, just install Vista on the XP partition (or upgrade your XP... to an OS 6 years more recent and pray 8O), then use a LiveCD to reinstall Grub on the MBR... Then only change "Windows XP" label for "Windows Vista" in your grub .conf

I have the WinXP/Gentoo setup right now and I'd like to install Vista over the XP installation. After reading the 'definitive guide' it sounds like Vista does not like when you overwrite it's bootloader with Grub. Am I reading that correctly?

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Once Vista is installed the GRUB bootloader is gone and you have no way of booting Linux. However you can’t reinstall GRUB to the MBR as it will overwrite the Vista bootloader. So the answer is to reinstall GRUB to the Linux partition rather than the MBR.


Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

webhawg wrote:
jeanfrancis wrote:
If you already have a Gentoo/WinXP dual boot and you plan to install Vista over XP, just install Vista on the XP partition (or upgrade your XP... to an OS 6 years more recent and pray 8O), then use a LiveCD to reinstall Grub on the MBR... Then only change "Windows XP" label for "Windows Vista" in your grub .conf

I have the WinXP/Gentoo setup right now and I'd like to install Vista over the XP installation. After reading the 'definitive guide' it sounds like Vista does not like when you overwrite it's bootloader with Grub. Am I reading that correctly?

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Once Vista is installed the GRUB bootloader is gone and you have no way of booting Linux. However you can’t reinstall GRUB to the MBR as it will overwrite the Vista bootloader. So the answer is to reinstall GRUB to the Linux partition rather than the MBR.


Thanks.

actually ive read an article somewhere about vista overwriting your MBR, not how true this is. but there was an article in APC recently (have the issue somewhere...) about how to dual boot vista and linux, ill try find it and post back my finds

Ducky

[EDIT] infact someone posted that link above, never mind then! but im still going to read it :D
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went ahead and experimented for myself. I had an XP/Gentoo install.

/dev/hda - XP
/dev/hdb - Gentoo
Grub
root(hd1,0)
setup(hd0)

I just install Vista over XP on hda and did the same installation of Grub. It worked fine. One of the APC articles says not to do setup(hd0), but instead do setup(hd0,0). Well setup(hd0) worked fine for me.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone run into the issue where Vista keeps switching your boot partition back to the vista partition? I haven't tried the how-to in the link, maybe that will fix my problem.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean by boot partition ?

You should install GRUB on the MBR, and not on a partition :)
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeanfrancis wrote:
What do you mean by boot partition ?

You should install GRUB on the MBR, and not on a partition :)


I misspoke. (running late for an exam). Grub was installed on the MBR, but the howto fixed my problem.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good :)

I wish your exam went well ;)
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeanfrancis wrote:
Good :)

I wish your exam went well ;)


I think so. I forgot how to do one mathematical proof, but otherwise it was solid.
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