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Thaidog Veteran


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: Does grub still work with Windows Vista? |
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I thought I read somewhere that Vista would not work with Grub... is this true? _________________ www.LinuxDNA.com
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jeanfrancis Veteran


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Does grub still work with Windows Vista? |
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| Thaidog wrote: | | I thought I read somewhere that Vista would not work with Grub... is this true? |
No, it works The exact same way of XP  |
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Thaidog Veteran


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Does grub still work with Windows Vista? SOLVED |
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| jeanfrancis wrote: | | Thaidog wrote: | | I thought I read somewhere that Vista would not work with Grub... is this true? |
No, it works The exact same way of XP  |
Ok good! thx! _________________ www.LinuxDNA.com
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jeanfrancis Veteran


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Too much details here (Well, it helps if you never dual-booted).
If you already have a Gentoo/WinXP dual boot and you plan to install Vista over XP, just install Vista on the XP partition (or upgrade your XP... to an OS 6 years more recent and pray ), then use a LiveCD to reinstall Grub on the MBR... Then only change "Windows XP" label for "Windows Vista" in your grub .conf  |
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dylnuge Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 106
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| For that matter, any non GNU/Linux OS can be loaded in this method (such as a recovery partition in your computer, etc). All the command tells the computer to do is to load that partition like it would if it was the only partition on the PC. Other partition based OSes require specialized commands. |
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jeanfrancis Veteran


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| dylnuge wrote: | | For that matter, any non GNU/Linux OS can be loaded in this method (such as a recovery partition in your computer, etc). All the command tells the computer to do is to load that partition like it would if it was the only partition on the PC. Other partition based OSes require specialized commands. |
I read that Mac OSX doesn't work with Grub, as it can't be loaded via the MBR. For MacOS/Linux, it stays simple, but for a triple boot, it becomes more complicated  |
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Thaidog Veteran


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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| jeanfrancis wrote: | | dylnuge wrote: | | For that matter, any non GNU/Linux OS can be loaded in this method (such as a recovery partition in your computer, etc). All the command tells the computer to do is to load that partition like it would if it was the only partition on the PC. Other partition based OSes require specialized commands. |
I read that Mac OSX doesn't work with Grub, as it can't be loaded via the MBR. For MacOS/Linux, it stays simple, but for a triple boot, it becomes more complicated  |
That's correct. They use the Itanium boot sector method actually. GUID. _________________ www.LinuxDNA.com
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webhawg Apprentice


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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| jeanfrancis wrote: | If you already have a Gentoo/WinXP dual boot and you plan to install Vista over XP, just install Vista on the XP partition (or upgrade your XP... to an OS 6 years more recent and pray ), then use a LiveCD to reinstall Grub on the MBR... Then only change "Windows XP" label for "Windows Vista" in your grub .conf |
I have the WinXP/Gentoo setup right now and I'd like to install Vista over the XP installation. After reading the 'definitive guide' it sounds like Vista does not like when you overwrite it's bootloader with Grub. Am I reading that correctly?
| Code: | | Once Vista is installed the GRUB bootloader is gone and you have no way of booting Linux. However you cant reinstall GRUB to the MBR as it will overwrite the Vista bootloader. So the answer is to reinstall GRUB to the Linux partition rather than the MBR. |
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suicideducky Apprentice

Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 208
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| webhawg wrote: | | jeanfrancis wrote: | If you already have a Gentoo/WinXP dual boot and you plan to install Vista over XP, just install Vista on the XP partition (or upgrade your XP... to an OS 6 years more recent and pray ), then use a LiveCD to reinstall Grub on the MBR... Then only change "Windows XP" label for "Windows Vista" in your grub .conf |
I have the WinXP/Gentoo setup right now and I'd like to install Vista over the XP installation. After reading the 'definitive guide' it sounds like Vista does not like when you overwrite it's bootloader with Grub. Am I reading that correctly?
| Code: | | Once Vista is installed the GRUB bootloader is gone and you have no way of booting Linux. However you cant reinstall GRUB to the MBR as it will overwrite the Vista bootloader. So the answer is to reinstall GRUB to the Linux partition rather than the MBR. |
Thanks. |
actually ive read an article somewhere about vista overwriting your MBR, not how true this is. but there was an article in APC recently (have the issue somewhere...) about how to dual boot vista and linux, ill try find it and post back my finds
Ducky
[EDIT] infact someone posted that link above, never mind then! but im still going to read it  |
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webhawg Apprentice


Joined: 18 Oct 2002 Posts: 284
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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I went ahead and experimented for myself. I had an XP/Gentoo install.
/dev/hda - XP
/dev/hdb - Gentoo
Grub
root(hd1,0)
setup(hd0)
I just install Vista over XP on hda and did the same installation of Grub. It worked fine. One of the APC articles says not to do setup(hd0), but instead do setup(hd0,0). Well setup(hd0) worked fine for me. |
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Thnikkaman n00b


Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 63
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone run into the issue where Vista keeps switching your boot partition back to the vista partition? I haven't tried the how-to in the link, maybe that will fix my problem. _________________ while(realavant){
speak();
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jeanfrancis Veteran


Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 1481 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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What do you mean by boot partition ?
You should install GRUB on the MBR, and not on a partition  |
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Thnikkaman n00b


Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 63
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| jeanfrancis wrote: | What do you mean by boot partition ?
You should install GRUB on the MBR, and not on a partition  |
I misspoke. (running late for an exam). Grub was installed on the MBR, but the howto fixed my problem. _________________ while(realavant){
speak();
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jeanfrancis Veteran


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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Good
I wish your exam went well  |
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Thnikkaman n00b


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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| jeanfrancis wrote: | Good
I wish your exam went well  |
I think so. I forgot how to do one mathematical proof, but otherwise it was solid. _________________ while(realavant){
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