America's Army: politically sensitive?

tihkal · Apprentice Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 225

Never played it.

Do I get to run around shooting allies ;-)

MooktaKiNG · Guru Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 326 Location: London, UK

I don't mind violence in games. Its just a game.

However when you make games that represent real life, at present time. eg: iraq and afganistant, then this is NOT a good thing.

I mean all these WW1/WW2 games aren't bad. Its history, its probably educational for children.
But when they play games like AA they see real world. They don't see fiction.

I don't think it was a good idea for the Army to butt into the games market.
This is another kind of brainwash. They are targeting people while they are young. Influencing them.

People are saying "Its just a game", "so what if the army had anything todo with it".
Well i say what would you say to a game that shows people strapping bombs on and then blowing people up, in a good way (i mean, it doesn't show it as a bad thing."
Now, would you say it was "Just a game"?
I wouldn't.

I hate to see games people influenced by goverment/army/etc etc.
I hate that. I just want people to make games, for the purposes of making games that are fun, and doesn't have any 'hidden' agenda.
games like UnrealTournament are good games. When ever someone sees it and plays it they know right away it is not real. Its fictional, futuristic, and fun to play (becuase it ain't real).

Thats what i believe in.

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F16PilotJumper · Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject:

Well, I played this game on PC a long time ago, one of the first versions.

What I saw was a training-style Red Team/Blue Team situation. Maybe I didn't get too far. I don't even really remember there being any blood. It seemed like a pretty realistic view of the training that real soldiers (not FPS wannabes) go through.

Everyone complains that we are on some ultra-conservative kick because of a game portraying the US Army? WTF? It's not like every time we have a Democrat in office the whole Army vanishes into thin air.

I have a lot of friends from high school who enlisted, and a couple who went to military schools to become officers. You have to remember that we have an all volunteer army, unlike almost every other country in the world. I frequent an international chat room, and over the past 4 or 5 years at least 4 people there have gone through required army service for their countries.

As such, if they have to do a little recruiting, I don't mind. Anyone who is considering joining the armed forces has a huge amount of resources available to them - from proud vets to people who hated it and were discharged.

Gentoo made a decision to contact someone about a high-quality game that could be ported to linux. It's not installed by default, and personally I don't consider providing an ebuild for its installation to be any different then providing InstallShield on Windows. I don't think Gentoo recieved insane amounts of money to distribute it, either.

Everyone (well, the US citizens anyway) who bitched about freedom should remember who defends our freedom every day. We may not agree with everything the government orders them to do, but they have sworn to protect us no matter what the cost.

It's up to us not to drop the ball - to vote, to discuss issues rather then letting the media decide for us, and to participate in our countries democracy.

kr3w3l · Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:37 am Post subject:

Its the middle of the night, and I cant sleep, so I thought I would provide a useless opinion on this topic.

I think that this game is a God-send to linux in general, and Gentoo in particular. Isn't exposure what linux really needs to help stop the flow of money into multi billionaire Bill Gates' pocket? How many other "A" quality games are available and free for linux users?

As for the violence, the more time we spend raising our childeren with no violent tendencies, the harder the Army is going to have to work to turn them into killers. So really this game is helping America to save money.

My tongue was embedded in my cheek for part of this, you're going to have to guess which part. :twisted:

kr3w3l

nadir-san · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject:

Absolutely Rediculous, I am even reluctant to post.

Like all sane people are saying, It's just a game.

If you dont like it, dont play it.
If you are offended by software political or otherwise in portage, don't use gentoo, infact don't use the internet. You may contaminate your beliefs.
This is a long thread, but there are so many holes in so many places of some of the arguments I glanced over I wouldnt know where to begin, nor do I intend to.
Portage is a package manager, it's aim is to make it easy to install software for people, I dont hear people complaining about other packages such as * app-text/bibletime for example. I'm an aethiest, but I think its good that christains can benefit from portage. I also think it's good that gamers can benefit from Americas-Army.

Portage is a system. Not a political tool.
Be nice, and peace

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Stormy Eyes · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:26 pm Post subject:

It's just a game, and personally I don't think it's all that interesting. So, rather than bitch about it being in portage I just don't emerge it. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that there aren't Gentoo users who do. Why spoil their fun just because of your sensibilities?

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ph03n1x · l33t Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 756

I would never install that propaganda shit and even if it was really good to play, fsck it :twisted:

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KungFuHamster · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject:

Christ, not this mindless crap again.
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laddle · n00b Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 11

The main rebuttal to the emotional dismay towards the game has mainly simply been: "IT'S JUST A GAME", so far. Admitted... it IS a game... but in what consciousness has it been created? And due to what funds has it been created? US tax dollars. Yes, perhaps buying this game would be quite similar... but to what extent... they used tax dollars to make some seemingly propagandic material for the masses, that the masses *unawaringly/unconsciously* authorised them to. So, when you are charged for something that's going to try to embed a beneficiary for the charger, into you... without you knowing that, that is the result of that which is charged of you... doesn't that throw you back to 1984.

Regardless, that is simply a point of perspective I'm extending for those who could not otherwise express the full form of their thoughts and cut themselves off before being extensively verbose. As a game itself, and the realism it brings as gameplay, is stunning. So... should Gentoo support it as a game to kick off their new branch? Sure, why not. The whole point of business is propaganda and attraction, regardless of the means (even attraction by means of propaganda), and for a new branch, it's perfect... since it's so popular. So, if the criticism is going to be towards Gentoo and its support of this game, then by extension, the criticism is really only to this game and anyone that supports it... Gentoo is just one place that both supports it, and lets you express yourself about it.

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