l33t posters not so l33t???

guero61 · l33t Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 811 Location: Behind you

Just as one of our "l33tites", I don't really like the nomenclature. Maybe it's a response to the h4X0r crap, but I'm just trying to quietly post my way back to a respectable [in my mind] nomenclature. Is there any chance we could get this changed? I know of at least one other 'l33t dude' that doesn't like it for the same reason.

What do we think?

hook · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 2:08 pm Post subject:

i don't like being l33t either ...i mean, it's ok to be a veteran or even better a tux's little helper, but l33t just doesn't fit in IMHO

maybe if you become l33t with your 1337th post and loose it with your 1338th? ...that could be fun :]

p.s. i'm gonna change my signature now
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idl · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 2:36 pm Post subject:

I think its supposed to be taken with a pinch of salt, its not implying you are a l33t h4x0r dUd3.. but merely taking the piss out of the l33t h4x0r dUd3 people... if you get what I mean.

I have nothing against it being changed though

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guero61 · l33t Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 811 Location: Behind you

I know -- it's very much tongue-in-cheek.

My opposition is more of a picky little thing -- I guess "don't mind making fun of it as long as it doesn't point at me..."

pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067

No promises that it will change, but do you have any suggestions for a replacement?
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idl · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 4:02 pm Post subject:

What about....

Brainiak ?

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grant.mcdorman · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 4:24 pm Post subject: Alternative for 133t

How about Wizard? (Or, for Terry Pratchet fans, Wizzard)?

At one time wizard meant more or less the same as hacker ... until those not-very-elite skript kiddies (and the media) corrupted the meaning of hacker <sigh>.

guero61 · l33t Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 811 Location: Behind you

iKiddo · Guru Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 341 Location: Europe?

nrl · Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 446 Location: Glasgow, UK

I think it would make more sence for the ranks to go

n00b
Tux's lil' helper
apprentice
l33t
veteran
guru

although I think l33t should be replaced with something better (however I have no idea what that might be), but what do I know I'm only an apprentice

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Although at the end of the day the ranks mean nothing, for instance I am sure there are n00bs who know much more than some of the veterans.

guero61 · l33t Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 811 Location: Behind you

Yes, ranks have nothing to do with knowledge -- I just... I don't know. Just don't like l33t. It's certainly livable, but also changeable.

idl · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:19 pm Post subject:

hook · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 8:54 am Post subject:

masseya · Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:36 pm Post subject:

Perhaps I'm a little late to the party, but I also like Torvaldian. Another thing to keep in mind is that we could add a higher rank than Veteran. A lot of people have achieved the 1000 post mark and might be interested in having something to shoot for again. There's nothing to say that we have to remain at a total of six ranks, but keep in mind that there would have to be pretty sufficient support for any change to take place. I'm from Indiana and we're conservative, crusty and change resistant. ;-)

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pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067

I also have a dislike for geek-bonics, so I'd like to see n00b and l33t go away. More than just replacing them though, I'd like to see titles that don't evoke skill or knowledge. While torvaldian might be good, I think it also seems more skill oriented.

Here are a few that I'm leaning towards:

emergent : n00b
(other suggestions: dabbler, dillettante)
no change : Tux's little helper
(unless we change Tux to something Gentoo)
? : Apprentice
Advocate : Guru
? : l33t
no change : Veteran

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guero61 · l33t Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 811 Location: Behind you

Hardly late -- nothing really good gets done right away, does it? :lol:

I really like pjp's "emergent" replacement for "n00b"; kinda took me a moment to recognize the nod to portage, but I like! I understand shying away from skill-oriented rankings, but our current rating system still does somewhat infer skill. We all know good advice when we see it, whether coming from someone named n00b or veteran, and we also know bad advice coming from the same.

I know all about you Indiana folk -- I'm from a vacation area in MO and you all and those from Iowa make our summers... memorable. Maybe you're "conservative, crusty, and change-resistant" at home, but certainly not here.

AlterEgo · Veteran Joined: 25 Apr 2002 Posts: 1619

Dump the rankings alltogether: they're useless.
Every user is the same, in my humble opinion

bsolar · Bodhisattva Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2764

&DLet's color-code:

White
Red
Yellow
Green
Blue
Black

No skills involved. I got the idea from the AD spell Chromatic Orb, you can cast a different colored orb with different increasingly dramatic effects if your charachter has an higher level.

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hook · Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 8:35 am Post subject:

the egg -> gentoo list is cool

...egg is maybe a bit harsh, but i think the noobies will manage
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idl · Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 10:09 am Post subject:

What about kernel developers?
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pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067

What about them?
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