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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Cannot find SATA hard drives on the LiveCD (terminal). Reply with quote

First, what happened a few days ago. I decided to install Linux for the first time on my DELL Dimension 9150. Booting up the Gentoo LiveCD, and proceeding the installation I noticed that Gentoo wouldn't work with my hard drives, a friend told me that it was because linux doesn't support the kind of RAID I had (RAID 0). So I removed RAID in BIOS and in a DELL Disc-setup menu (CTRL + I in boot sequence) and formatted my drives. I then installed windows on one of the drives and let the other one remain unallocated.

So I went from RAID 0 to a combination of SATA and PATA (my hard drives being SATA and my DVD being PATA).

Now I'm trying to install again. Using ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* doesn't show anything but sda. Also, trying cfdisk on sda gets me a fatal error. I use 2 hard drives, both are SATA and one of them is completely unallocated, so there is space. The modules are loaded aswell. Anyone know what causes this, or how to solve it?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

metz0r,

Welcome to Gentoo.

Your friend is badly informed - your BIOS raid will work with dmraid under linux. Its not the easiest thing in the world to set up but It you want to know more, googel dmraid and fakeraid. It allows Windows and Linux to share the same raid set.

What does
Code:
lspci
show?
That command lists hardware attached to the PCI (and AGP) bus in your machine, which covers most things.
The output of
Code:
fdisk -l
will also be useful.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
livecd ~ # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 945G/GZ/P/PL Express Memory Controller Hub
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 945G/GZ/P/PL Express PCI Express Root Port
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 01)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GH (ICH7DH) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7800 GTX] (rev a1)
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
05:02.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (rev 61)
05:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
05:05.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem







I'll bring you the rest of the info when I get the opportunity, if you need it.

edit:

Code:
fdisk -l


gets me nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also happened to come across this line in dmesg:
Code:
 ata_piix: probe of 0000:00:1f.2 failed with error -16
maybe it's useful?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also having this issue. I can see my drive on a 2004 cd. currently running ubuntu with no issues.
the lspci on the livecd and ubuntu have the same list.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

metz0r,

Code:
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 01)
shows you have a ICH7 disk controller. Its a hybrid PATA/SATA device which is know to be difficult to set up to get both parts going at the same time.

You can try doscsi on the liveCD boot line to see if that helps.
Its also worth checking
Code:
lsmod
to see if
Code:
sata_piix
is loaded and doing
Code:
modprobe sata_piix
if its not.

I'm not certain that sata_piix is right for an ICH7 chipset. Intel are moving towards AHCI compliant SATA so sata_ahci is also worth trying, if its on the liveCD.

If all that fails to get your /dev/sd* nodes to appear, try installing using knoppix and the command line. Its only a few extra steps.
The manual install guide is here and the few extra steps are part of this document
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loading with doscsi doesn't give me anything special. I can't modprobe sata_piix or sata_ahci, "can't find".
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any update? can anyone help this guy out?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like NeddySeagoon said, boot with Knoppix (or another LiveCD that supports your hardware), and install Gentoo from there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm, using knoppix it isn't possible to get an x86_64 gentoo system up since knoppix itself is x86 right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boot with a 64bit Ubuntu CD in that case.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha! I've tried that already too. Ubuntu64 LiveCD won't boot at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... or any other distro's 64bit LiveCD.
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