Are you satisfied with Paludis

kernelOfTruth · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:20 am Post subject:

I'm almost satisfied with it now :wink:

experimental binutils & glibc builds work since I figured out some syntax stuff in keywords.conf & package_unmask.conf

what "annoys" me:

paludis doesn't register installed packages after every install, so if the install gets interrupted & you continue later manually without pasting paludis' output or forgot to copy it, those packages already installed won't get registered in world-file
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Etal · Veteran Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1931

Is there any way to change the colors? Paludis uses darker shades of colors than portage and they are not as comfortable to read on black background on my computer.

Edit: The "pink" use flag is horrible!
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Joseph_sys · Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject:

Does Paludis support "ELOG" or has anything similar to it.
I like those post install messages to be emailed to me; just in case not to miss any post installation instructions.

steveL · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

Conan · Guru Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 360

Way to plug your script and not answer his question.

Joseph_sys · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject:

Conan · Guru Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 360

Joeseph_sys: someone already answered that.

Conan · Guru Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 360

Joseph_sys · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject:

nikaya · Veteran Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1471 Location: Germany

pigeon768 · l33t Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 683

Ok, so I tried paludis just to see what the fuss was about, and I switched back. I don't use it because it's incompatible with the emwrap.sh script, which has two features I require that paludis doesn't have - it ensures my toolchain is always properly built, and I can emerge a shitload of packages, and if one fails, it will automatically continue building rather than dying and having to manually resume.

I also don't use paludis because it doesn't accept the media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_pre20070321-r4 ebuild - says it's an invalid version name or something. If that's portage's fault for accepting invalid names, I don't care, I just want the most recent version of mplayer.

Most of portage's shortcomings can be worked around with 3rd party hacks that I'm already comfortable with, and since I know it will always work until the majority of the userbase switches ... I'll just stick with what I know works.

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BitJam · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject:

I really like Paludis. I will continue to use it until there is something I need to do that it doesn't do. I LOVE the big speed improvement. I'm so very tired of battling and battling and battling to keep emerge from slowing to a crawl.

I think the emerge system was long overdue for a complete re-write. ISTM that Paludis is the way of the future. Things like Paludis are what make Gentoo so great.

tecknojunky · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:24 am Post subject:

I ran across Paludis by accidentally while (surprise surprise) searching on something else.

I've give up a long time ago ranting on Portage's slowlyness and inability to remove unused dependencies. Intrigued, I immediatly gave it a shot and I'm currently "paludissing".

At first, I was looking for speed, but upon setting it up, I've found the configuration concept much more cleaner.

My only few downsides with it for now are the output formats that are much harder to read than Emerge and Eix, the non-automatic creation of folders annoys me a bit (I'm sure there's a good reason), and the VERY long option switches.

I've been using it for only a few hours now, so this was the flowers. I'm sure there's a pot coming soon.

Thanks to the devs. I find Paludis to be a very sexy Portage substitute.
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Hypnos · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject:

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tecknojunky · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:16 am Post subject:

Thanks for the tips and explanations.

Is there a way to resume a build that failed the test phase? I guess doing ebuild </path/to/ebuild> install && ebuild </path/to/ebuild> qmerge && ebuild </path/to/ebuild> clean is not recommended.

I stumble upon an eselect command that activate/deacivate hooks. Is that documented somewhere?
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luqas · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:50 am Post subject:

It is in the FAQ at http://paludis.pioto.org . Specifically here -> http://paludis.pioto.org/faq.html#testfailures . Basically you have to modify the bashrc to skip testing packages that fail the test phase.

tecknojunky · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject:

Hypnos · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

Use ccache

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steveL · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject:

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tecknojunky · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject:

Hypnos · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject:

CCACHE is a good way to use a few GBs that might otherwise be sitting empty; if you ever need the space, you can just delete it.

When I had a slower, full hard disk, when a compile failed I'd have to correct it/patch it manually then run the "ebuild" subcommands to avoid having wasted the compile time. This is much nicer

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