What are you doing to Stop Windows Vista?

jdm64 · n00b Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 26 Location: CyberSpace

So, Windows Vista has been released to the general public. But what are you doing to stop its adoption?

You've most likely read: "A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection", and it's scary to think of the implications of Microsoft's move to fully ingrain DRM into Vista!

Now, people using open-source operating systems won't be hit by the effects initially. But, if Vista catches on, it will send flashing signals to content producers, hardware manufactures, and software developers that people don't mind that their rights and freedoms are being controlled and abused. Companies will then insist on stricter and more secure DRM.

Right now the DRM is mostly in the software, and can easily be bypassed, and because of that fact companies are calling for hardware implementations of DRM. Trusted Computing is the general term for hardware DRM. It threatens the very existence of free and open-source standards and software. I for one don't want Microsoft, or any other company for that mater, to have control over my computer.

So, what are you going to do to stop the adoption of Windows Vista? And show the content producers, hardware manufactures, and software developers that people don't like it when their rights and freedoms are being controlled and abused!

I've quickly created a two page pamphlet (that I'll be handing out to people) using the: "A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection" report. It contains the summaries of the article with important sentences in bold. You can find the OpenDocument file here. If you can create a better pamphlet I'd really be interested.

Below are some quotes from the report:

tylerwylie · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:26 am Post subject:

I didn't have to do anything to stop my dad from buying it, he just read the AJC(Atlanta Journal-Constitution) review and was astonished at how much of a resource hog it was.
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Old School · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:46 am Post subject:

I'm not buying a copy. And I recommend to anyone that'll listen to not buy it.
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chrismcdirty · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:18 am Post subject:

I'm preaching to anyone who asks my opinion. I do my best not to be an asshole and assert my opinion to people who didn't ask, or at least bring it up in conversation.

atrus123 · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:21 am Post subject:

I tell people my true feelings on it whenever possible..., which is often. And I am in a position where people do listen seriously to what I have to say.
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shickapooka800 · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:23 am Post subject:

I have done absolutely nothing about it. Not because I am lazy, but because it's not in me to do it. Sure if someone asks me for my opinions on a certain part of the windows experience, I will answer accordingly, but I am in no way going to join a revolt against Vista. Hell, when my friend uses it (which he may), I will be curious to see it.
You could say that I have faith in the market. Sure it takes a long time, but eventually the general public will move away from microsoft products as new players become more prevelent, or microsoft doesn't change enough to fit with demands (already happening I believe). Apple is doing a decent job leveling the playing field, and Linux adoption is at a staggering level both commercially and personally. Who knows, maybe in 6 years time, one of the little other hobby OS's may be gaining ground as linux is now, there could even be a new proprietary/closed source OS on the horizon. I welcome both.

Microsoft is losing its grip on the market. THere are many places that will not adopt vista due to _serious_ compatibility issues with current software (anybody who works in a production/research environment knows how serious that is). In my field for instance, you are years behind if you aren't familiar with basic UNIX commands and the like, so windows/vista doesn't even come into play here (vista will never be seen in my building for sure!).

The bottom line is that, I feel, things have been set into motion which will end the "universality" of a windows installation. No longer are things/markets/opinions/software so windows oriented. Microsoft has had its peak, it is most certainly now in its decline despite what it seems. I predict in 12 years microsoft will be making xboxes and office software, not much else.
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LD · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:26 am Post subject:

I'm advising everyone I know to wipe windows out when they get new hardware.
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playfool · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:49 am Post subject:

I won't be using it and I'll encourage everyone I know to not upgrade and when they need to switch to Fedora.

LD · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:11 am Post subject:

playfool · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:23 am Post subject:

tylerwylie · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:25 am Post subject:

How can you even compare ubuntu to a real linux distro?
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LD · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:27 am Post subject:

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LD · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:29 am Post subject:

vibrokatana · Guru Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 328 Location: o0o0oo

I always get the feeling that ubuntu is halfward put together. Then they released "server: versions - the whole organization reminds me too much of m$ to consider. Atleast we have someone to point a finger at and laugh when the whole boat starts to sink.
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mdeininger · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:47 am Post subject:

i tell people the truth about windows drm, why it's bad, point the more tech savvy people to the aforementioned article and tell the others how and why their hardware is going to get more expensive for less power in the long run.

succes varies depending on the age of the listener: younger persons only care about whether or not game X or Y runs on it and whether or not there's accelerated drivers for their graphics card (unfortunately that even holds true for the students at my university, which means "younger persons" is roughly anything <= 25, especially if they bought ati graphics cards.) that led to some interesting discussions as well, i know a girl who completely switched to slack and points at guys and laughs when their windows acts up. sometimes, they counter with "why are you using it anyway, there's not even real graphics card drivers for the thing!" -- "there are, but i don't feel like installing them" -- "HA, see, it's more complicated!" -- "no, i just don't plan on playing quake or any other 3d game" -- "BUT...!".

i noticed that older people, however, don't give a damn whether or not they're presented with something like KDE/GNOME or a Windows Desktop. in fact, a lot of the less tech-savvy older persons i know have less trouble finding their way around kde than they ever had with windows. what they seem to care about most is localisation and a good word processor and spreadsheet application that somewhat looks like the microsoft equivalents, and open-office seems to fit in there very well. they, on the other hand, can't comprehend "the business model" of linux at all. they insist on it being powered by a company or something else and they can't believe anyone would do anything for free...
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lesourbe · l33t Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 710 Location: Champagne !

I'll try to unit ubuntu fans and fedora ones to vanquish Vista !

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Frodo42 · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject:

I wrote on my blog this morning and I am talking to people on not computer related sites about this new release from Microsoft, making them think of maybe trying some of the alternatives.
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zenlunatic · Guru Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 312

didn't rms/fsf organize protests?

gotaserena · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

I guess I don't need to do anything. With a price tag of US$233 (equiv.) for the simplest version and no bootleg version available I can't see any sane home user around here upgrading in the foreseeable future.

zenlunatic · Guru Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 312

i hope noone finds a way to make illegal copies because this may bring more people to our side

vibrokatana · Guru Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 328 Location: o0o0oo

What I will laugh at is all the 11 year olds who insist on upgrading then bitch when their software doesnt work anymore.
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zenlunatic · Guru Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 312

jebus... microsoft.com (updated) brought my brothers computer to a fucking hault, and he has a 1.8ghz athlon and a half gig of ram. im going to try this on my moms core duo machine.

dusik · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: