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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Help needed: No sound from speakers or headphones... Reply with quote

Hi. I"ve been fiddling with this for over a month now to no success. Any and all help would be appreciated.

As it stands I have basic sound support enabled in the kernel with a modular alsa driver. Before anyone offers, yes, I have attempted the in-kernel driver. It does not work either.

Anyway, alsa loads with only one error (involving the modem -- something I'm not terribly concerned with these days). I get a full set of mixer bars in alsamixer and can play with mutes and volume levels. But there is zero sound produced on either the speakers or over the headphones.

relevant information as follows. thanks for the help.

Code:
$ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14rc2.
Compiled on Jan 17 2007 for kernel 2.6.19-suspend2-r1.


Code:
$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
                      HDA NVidia at 0xb0000000 irq 20


Code:
$ alsamixer
Card: HDA NVidia
Chip: SigmaTel STAC9200
View: [Playback] Capture  All
Item: Master [dB gain=-4.50, -4.50]


Code:
$ dmesg | grep ALSA
ALSA /var/tmp/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2/work/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c:245: si3054: cannot initialize. EXT MID = 0000


Code:
$ cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep SOUND
CONFIG_SOUND=y
# CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set
# CONFIG_SND is not set


Code:
$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_pcm_oss            47904  0
snd_mixer_oss          17600  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss            36992  0
snd_seq_device          7696  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq_midi_event      7872  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                57312  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_hda_intel          19360  1
snd_hda_codec         258752  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm                84620  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer              22024  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    61352  11 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc          9488  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm


Code:
$ lspci | grep Audio
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)


Code:
$ cat /etc/modules.d/alsa
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

options snd-hda-intel model=ref
options snd cards_limit=1


Code:
cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*
Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200
Address: 0
Vendor Id: 0x83847690
Subsystem Id: 0x161f205e
Revision Id: 0x102201
Default PCM:
    rates [0x7e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0401: Stereo
  Power: 0x0
Node 0x03 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 1
     0x0a
Node 0x04 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x140311: Stereo Digital
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
  Connection: 1
     0x08
Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x40211: Stereo Digital
  PCM:
    rates [0x1e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
Node 0x06 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf30201: Stereo Digital
Node 0x07 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300901: Stereo
  Connection: 3
     0x02* 0x08 0x0a
Node 0x08 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x430681: Stereo Digital
  Pincap 0x0810024: IN EAPD Detect
  Pin Default 0x400000fe: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A
    Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Power: 0x0
Node 0x09 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400301: Stereo Digital
  Pincap 0x0810: OUT
  Pin Default 0x00451330: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext N/A
    Conn = Optical, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 2
     0x05* 0x0a
Node 0x0a [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30090d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x0f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x8b 0x8b]
  Connection: 1
     0x0c
Node 0x0b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300105: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: N/A
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x1c 0x1c]
  Connection: 1
     0x07
Node 0x0c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x04, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x03 0x03]
  Connection: 5
     0x10* 0x0f 0x0e 0x0d 0x12
Node 0x0d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
  Pincap 0x083f: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x400100f0: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Connection: 1
     0x0b
Node 0x0e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
  Pincap 0x083f: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x90110010: [Fixed] Speaker at Int N/A
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x0b
Node 0x0f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
  Pincap 0x0837: IN OUT Detect
  Pin Default 0x400100f1: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
  Connection: 1
     0x0b
Node 0x10 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
  Pincap 0x081737: IN OUT Detect
  Pin Default 0x02a1902e: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
  Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN
  Connection: 1
     0x0b
Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400104: Mono Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: N/A
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00]
  Pincap 0x0810: OUT
  Pin Default 0x500000f2: [N/A] Line Out at Int N/A
    Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Connection: 1
     0x13
Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
  Pincap 0x0820: IN
  Pin Default 0x900000f3: [Fixed] Line Out at Int N/A
    Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Node 0x13 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200100: Mono
  Connection: 1
     0x07
Node 0x14 [Beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70000c: Mono Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x03, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x17, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00]
Codec: Generic 11c1 Si3054
Address: 1
Vendor Id: 0x11c11040
Subsystem Id: 0x11c10001
Revision Id: 0x100200
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Help needed: No sound from speakers or headphones... Reply with quote

cheuschober wrote:

Anyway, alsa loads with only one error

Could you send error message? Did you try
Code:
cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
or
Code:
speaker-test
?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Error message is as above in $ dmesg.

$ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp

yeilds nothing but speaker-test (which I didn't even know existed) yeilds nothing either.

As I stated, I'm not familiar with speaker-test. Is it reliant upon alsa properly detecting my output points (speakers) or is this now a hardware detection issue independent of ALSA?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I did not see dmesg at first. Did you ran alsaconf ? Can you see the same error message with
Code:
/etc/init.d/alsasound restart
?
Speaker-test is part of alsa-utils and it is tone generator for ALSA.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mirojira wrote:
Sorry I did not see dmesg at first. Did you ran alsaconf ? Can you see the same error message with
Code:
/etc/init.d/alsasound restart
?
Speaker-test is part of alsa-utils and it is tone generator for ALSA.


Yes to alsaconf and yes to init.d restart. The piece that can't be initialized is the modem (googling has told me that much). Now, I'm not sure if the problem bleeds out from there to affect audio production but if it's just the modem I don't have a huge use / concern for it.

Thanks for taking interest mirojira.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

update: I wrote a dirty bash script to try all the models available for intel-hda (see below).

no sound was produced throughout the whole affair. any ideas where I should go from here?

Code:
#!/bin/bash
# alsatest-ihda.sh

# useful variables
MODELS_PATH="${0%/*}/ihda-models.dat"
OPTION_IHDA="options snd-hda-intel model="
ALSACONF_PATH="/etc/modules.d/alsa"
BKUP_PATH="/var/tmp/alsatest-ihda-models.alsa.bkup"
TMP_ALSACONF_PATH="/var/tmp/tmp.alsatest-ihda-models"

# our update / test commands
# four channels are used for (hopeful) completeness
function test_alsaconf {
  modules-update
  /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
  speaker-test -c4 -l2
}

# first we save our existing configuration in case of crash of failure
if [ -f $BKUP_PATH ]
then
  echo "alsatest: Backup already exists at ${BKUP_PATH}!"
  echo "alsatest: Skipping backup..."
else
  echo "alsatest: Backing up your existing alsaconf to ${BKUP_PATH}..."
  cp $ALSACONF_PATH $BKUP_PATH
fi

# the guts of it
exec < $MODELS_PATH  # reads in our models from file
while read line  # loops
  do
    MODEL=$line  # reads current model in
    echo "alsatest: Changing ALSA snd-hda-intel model to: ${MODEL}"
    sed "/${OPTION_IHDA}*/c${OPTION_IHDA}${MODEL}" $ALSACONF_PATH >> $TMP_ALSACONF_PATH  # replaces options line in alsa conf
    mv $TMP_ALSACONF_PATH $ALSACONF_PATH 
    echo "alsatest: Restarting ALSA and testing new model..."
    test_alsaconf  # runs the update and test
  done

if [ -f $BKUP_PATH ]
then
  echo "alsatest: Restoring the model to original before alsatest-ihda-models.sh..."
  mv $BKUP_PATH $ALSACONF_PATH
  modules-update
  /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
else
  echo "alsatest: Oh no! You've lost your backup!"
  echo "alsatest: For now you're stuck with what you've got."
fi

echo "alsatest: Script finished."


<ihda-models.dat>
Code:
3stack
3stack-6ch
3stack-6ch-dig
3stack-dig
3stack-digout
5stack
5stack-digout
6stack
6stack-dig
6stack-digout
6stack-dig-demo
acer
allout
arima
asus
asus-dig
asus-dig2
asus-w1v
auto
basic
benq
clevo
fujitsu
full
full_dig
hp
hp-3013
hp-bpc
laptop
laptop-dig
laptop-eapd
lg
lg-lw
minimal
ref
tcl
thinkpad
uniwill
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vaio
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w810
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your
Quote:
dirty bash script
works on my box without any problems. From the error message above I can see that you have alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2 installed. Last stable version in the portage is 1.0.14_rc1. Maybe you could try to downgrade. And maybe you could check what is wrong with patch_si3054.c which you can see in the error message aswell. I found this pach in kernel sources directories:
Code:
localhost # locate patch_si3054.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8/sound/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.18-gentoo-r6/sound/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c
/LFS/usr/src/linux-2.6.16.27/sound/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has the no sound problem been with you from the start of having your PC? Or eg, did it stop working recently? Does sound work in other distros or Windows? I would boot a knoppix cd and see if it has sound. If so, figure out which kernel modules are loaded and do the same on your gentoo install. If sound is "configured" but just not coming out, check the audio cable is plugged into the right socket at the back of the pc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take a look at it... though late last night I attracted the attention of an alsa dev who started pushing some custom scripts on me. They haven't worked for sound yet but suddenly new mixer bars have shown up in alsamixer so I think it's a step in the right direction.

Feel free to use the dirty script if you want but the dev actually reminded me that sometimes alsa volume states are reset (remuted) and so they need to be set. If you want to continue using it, I'd suggest the following.

Code:

BKUP_PATH="/var/tmp/alsatest-ihda-models.alsa.bkup"
TMP_ALSACONF_PATH="/var/tmp/tmp.alsatest-ihda-models"
++CTLS_REGEX="[Mm](aster|ASTER)|[Pp][Cc][Mm]|[Oo][Uu][Tt]|[Ll][Ff][Ee]"
++
++# unmutes and sets volume for all controls
++function amixer_ctls {
++IFS=$'\n'  # changes the bash Internal Field Separator to only accept /n-ewline
++for AMIXCTL in $(amixer scontrols | egrep $CTLS_REGEX | sed 's/Simple mixer control //')
++  do
++    amixer -c 0 sset $AMIXCTL 95% unmute
++  done
++}
++
++# reloads alsa, sets volume
++function reload_alsa {
++  modules-update
++  /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
++  amixer_ctls
++}
--# our update / test commands
--# four channels are used for (hopeful) completeness
++# reloads alsa, sets volume, and runs speaker-test
function test_alsaconf {
--  modules-update
--  /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
++  reload_alsa
  speaker-test -c4 -l2

  echo "alsatest: Restoring the model to original before alsatest-ihda-models.sh..."
  mv $BKUP_PATH $ALSACONF_PATH
--  modules-update
--  /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
++  reload_alsa
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whig wrote:
Has the no sound problem been with you from the start of having your PC? Or eg, did it stop working recently? Does sound work in other distros or Windows? I would boot a knoppix cd and see if it has sound. If so, figure out which kernel modules are loaded and do the same on your gentoo install. If sound is "configured" but just not coming out, check the audio cable is plugged into the right socket at the back of the pc.


There has never been sound on any linux distribution tried. (redhat, suse, ubuntu, debian, knoppix, and gentoo) Sound did work in windows. It's a laptop so the only possible 'cables' are the line-in and headphone jack. I'm certain the correct module is intel-hda however that particular driver allows for several different pin/nodule layouts (covered in the 'model' options). After speaking with a dev it has been suggested that my machine, the first they've seen of its kind (I'm fairly certain I'm the only person using gentoo on one), doesn't have a standard layout so we're trying to construct a new layout. (See the /proc...codec)
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheuschober wrote:
After speaking with a dev it has been suggested that my machine, the first they've seen of its kind (I'm fairly certain I'm the only person using gentoo on one), doesn't have a standard layout so we're trying to construct a new layout. (See the /proc...codec)


I am using Gentoo on a very similar machine, if not the same type. Gateway MX3410 here. Anyway, did you get anywhere on this?
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not sure if this would apply to the chipset that you have but i am also using the hda-intel drivers and to get it working i had to add
Code:
acpi=ht

at the end of the kernel command in grub.conf and it works perfectly after.
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