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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:13 am    Post subject: Which kernel does 2006.1 use? Reply with quote

Well, the title says it all.

If anybody's interested, I'm considering install Gentoo after experience with Ubuntu. I want to be able to install native BCM43xx support without an internet connection, so I won't be able to get the new kernel sources without running a cable out of my window to the router for the duration it takes to set up the networking.

Yay, first post :D.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AzraelUK,

Welcome to Gentoo.

As you have noticed, you will have to fetch and compile your kernel. You need not fetch the one provided on the liveCD, which will be out of date now. While you are using wired networking, do the following :-
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emerge --sync
emerge gentoo-sources -f
emerge genkernel -f
emerge bcm43xx-fwcutter -f
this fetches all the files you need except the firmware but you probably have that already.
The -f means --fetchonly. Now you can close your window and do the emerges for real, (without the -f) using the previouosly fetched files.

genkernel is optional - its a script to help you configure and compile your kernel.
This will get you a 2.6.18 or 2.6.19 kernel (2.6.19 is in testing now)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the one on the Gentoo installation CD (the non-networked one) is older than 2.6.17_rc1? I hope not. :roll:
If not - is there any way to download the packages without being on Gentoo, so I can copy it across from my USB stick instead of having to use wireless networking?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AzraelUK wrote:
So the one on the Gentoo installation CD (the non-networked one) is older than 2.6.17_rc1? I hope not. :roll:
If not - is there any way to download the packages without being on Gentoo, so I can copy it across from my USB stick instead of having to use wireless networking?


wget it out of a repository?

There is a list of mirrors on the website. You may could hunt them down and grab them there. Just stick it in /usr/src/linux<version>

Make sure to put a symlink in from /usr/src/linux to the updated version, too, otherwise some programs won't play nice.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AzraelUK,

I think the 2006.1 liveCD has a 2.6.17 kernel of some sort. It will not be a -rc, since the liveCD is all stable.

You can use sneakernet to identify and fetch files that Gentoo needs, using another OS or another PC
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to use a gentoo livecd to install gentoo.

Gentoo's livecd doesn't have madwifi-ng (it's a driver set for some wireless devices) so I used the ubuntu livecd, opened up a terminal, and installed gentoo.

So just search for a livecd that has support for what you need.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks. I'll download & install gentoo and a portage snapshot, untar the snapshot to /usr/portage, emerge the packages with -fp, and download them all in ubuntu.

Thanks for your help :).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AzraelUK wrote:
OK, thanks. I'll download & install gentoo and a portage snapshot, untar the snapshot to /usr/portage, emerge the packages with -fp, and download them all in ubuntu.

Thanks for your help :).


That's not what I was saying to do at all.

1) Download the ubuntu livecd (or any other livecd you like)
2) Boot off that livecd
3) In the livecd environment open up a terminal
4) Get root access
5) mount your partitions
6) download your tarballs and snapshots
7) install gentoo

Also, obviously as part of installing gentoo install a recent kernel source so you can include support for whichever piece of hardware it is you used a diff livecd for to begin with.

So there's no need to do "emerge -fp"
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slycordinator, AzraelUK,

Knoppix comes with ndiswrapper, so when you add your own WindowsXP drivers, most wireless chip sets work.

You need to choose a liveCD that supports your intended install. A 32 bit x86 CD will not allow you to do a 64 bit x86_64 install.
The 32 bit kernel cannot support the 64 bit code in the Gentoo chroot.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon, I knew that. I'm not a noob :/.

I just want to have native support for my broadcom card with the broadcom kernel module and bcm43xx-fwcutter. So, will the method I said work?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AzraelUK,

All the methods discussed will deliver the same end result.
Use whichever you are comfortable with.
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