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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: [SOLVED] Minimal install x86 CD does not load Reply with quote

I have a problem using minimal install 2006.1 CD to install Gentoo on my old (PII-266, 384MBRAM) machine.

If I do
Code:

boot gentoo ide=nodma

The boot proceeds through loading modules, mounting of CDROM, choosing language all right,
however machine just hangs on
Code:

copying read-write image contents to /tmpfs

CDROM blinks ones, and then there is no activity

without ide=nodma, boot sequence fails earlier, unable to find bootable device to mount.
In this case however, I get a limited shell, which, unfortunately, does not contain hdparm to disable dma at this
stage manually.

What have I checked

1) I though first that my CD is toast, but I burned two copies and there is no difference between the two
2) The disk I'm installing gentoo onto currently has Win98. I have booted into it, and was able to read gentoo cd just fine in the same CDROM, at least at the level of browsing the contents. So it is not that CDROM is unable to read
this disk

3) I tried bunch of 'no' boot options like nodetect, noapic, nolapic, etc, with no results. All of them shorten the boot sequence but at the end it comes to 'copying contents into /tmpfs' which hangs


I'd appreciate any ideas ! Thanks !


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmpogo,

try the
Code:
nodetect nodma
options.
You will need to manually modprobe all the needed modules to suit your hardware as you want to use it. e.g. USB, network.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
dmpogo,

try the
Code:
nodetect nodma
options.
You will need to manually modprobe all the needed modules to suit your hardware as you want to use it. e.g. USB, network.


Yes I did that.

nodma (ide=nodma) is a must for me, otherwise I'm getting 'no bootable device found', and if I look into dmesg after shell is provided, there are lot of errors on cd drive. With ide=nodma it finds and mounts CD all right

I have all modules loaded fine, which nodetect just skips. With nodetect loading then goes more or less straight to

Code:

mounting squashfs
copying read-write image contents to /tmpfs


where it hangs as before


I'll try earlier releases, but my second computer is at work :(
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmpogo,

What CPU do you have ?
What is the full name and date of the ISO you downloaded./
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
dmpogo,

What CPU do you have ?
What is the full name and date of the ISO you downloaded./



PII-266 Mhz

iso is

install-x86-minimal-2006.1.iso

date 10 oct 2006, size 55476 kb
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you certain that the system is actually hung? How long have you waited? Pentium II is not exactly powerful these days; there can be little to no I/O activity while the CPU is working.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD_from_scratch

Quote:
Copying read-write image contents to tmpfs

I try to build the livecd with genkernel but when it boot, it is bloked on "Copying read-write image contents to tmpfs" Someone has a idea about this problem?

* I had that to with a version of genkernel, it has been fixed in 3.2.6 I believe, but updating to the latest is better with this package.
o LX: Well, I'm working with genkernel 3.3.10 and I do get the above message. I don't even know what it could be evoked by. Anybody got an idea?
o LX 17:58, 8 January 2006 (GMT): A little update on that one: I had the same issue again and again. But I saw that the booting continues after I waited long enough. (Yes, I'm blessed with patience...) The booting seems to go on after that pretty ok.
o LX 08:18, 11 January 2006 (GMT): Ok, the problem seemed to be that I emulated with qemu. Burning a real CD, the "Copying read-write image contents to tmpfs" only takes some 20 seconds. This seems to be ok.

* It takes a very long time to do this stage on my old p2 laptop. I've been trying to figure out why, but I can't seem to mount the initrd to really figure it out. And I've mounted initrds before. This one seems to think it's not ext2
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Kagerato"]Are you certain that the system is actually hung? How long have you waited? Pentium II is not exactly powerful these days; there can be little to no I/O activity while the CPU is working.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD_from_scratch

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Copying read-write image contents to tmpfs



Had that thought :) I left it ovenight !
Thanks for pointing me to howto, I'd be interested to find what exactly livecd is doing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmpogo,

That ISO is good for your P2. However, a P2 is an i686 class CPU, so you can try that minimal ISO too.
Be sure to get the i686 stage 3 tarball, when you get to that stage.

How much RAM do you have ?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
dmpogo,

That ISO is good for your P2. However, a P2 is an i686 class CPU, so you can try that minimal ISO too.
Be sure to get the i686 stage 3 tarball, when you get to that stage.

How much RAM do you have ?


384 MB, RAM wise. I just got harddrive died, with RedHat 9 on it, and decided to be a bit masohistic and put Gentoo, since this is what on my office machines. I'll be trying around.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using CDR rather than CDRW media allowed install CD to work
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