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kmare l33t


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 619 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: ryzom mmorpg to become gpl |
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http://www.ryzom.org/
well, i'm not sure if any of you might be interested, but they're trying to gather enough money from the community (100.000 euro) to buy the sources and release them under the GPL...
btw, just check out the videos.. to me it looks certainly better than WoW in every aspect but i never played it... _________________ Never argue with an idiot. They will only pull you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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Babali Apprentice


Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 211 Location: France, Paris
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Only need 100.000 people to give 1 euro
I think it we will have ryzom gpl'ed soon  |
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teidon Apprentice


Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 195 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Actually they are trying to get as much money as they can because they probably need to compete against other buyers. Ryzom is currently at shared first place in mmorpg.com's best mmorpgs list, so there's more than likely other buyers too. Also, it's the whole game they are buying. That's sources, art, sounds, etc. And in case Free Ryzom Project manages to buy it, they all will be released under some free software license. _________________ When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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Babali Apprentice


Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 211 Location: France, Paris
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| But it's quickly growing ! |
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Phenax l33t


Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 972
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Looks great, if it reaches the limit maybe there will finally be a great MMORPG that is FOSS. |
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Darkael Veteran


Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1321 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| Phenax wrote: | | Looks great, if it reaches the limit maybe there will finally be a great MMORPG that is FOSS. |
Not only that, but all the code and the free artistic content (textures, sounds, models, music...) would greatly benefit other open-sources game projects.
However those are only donation pledges. I wonder how many of the people who promised several hundred of euros would really donate that much.... |
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teidon Apprentice


Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 195 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Free Software Foundation decided to support The Free Ryzom Campaing. They are going to donate bit over 45 000€ for the project. Official press release to follow later on. Thanks to FSF, the donation pledges rocketed to 133 000€.
There should be more news about the liquidation process by 19.12. Let's keep our fingers crossed that Ryzom becomes FOSS. _________________ When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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Babali Apprentice


Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 211 Location: France, Paris
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| WTF !! the goal is now 200 000 euro ! We should better give 200 000 euro to planeshift for their devellopment |
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teidon Apprentice


Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 195 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Babali wrote: | | WTF !! the goal is now 200 000 euro ! We should better give 200 000 euro to planeshift for their devellopment |
Let's not forget couple important facts here, k?
1. There's other groups interested of Ryzom too - Free Ryzom Campaing needs as much money as possible to buy Ryzom for themselves.
2. Ryzom has already "been developed" - Ryzom is a commercial quality game already, unlike Planeshift. Obviously there's still work to be done for Ryzom too, though.
3. If Ryzom becomes FOSS, everything that is part of it will be released under some Free Software license (game engine, sounds, music, graphics, models etc) - That's alot of stuff for FOSS communities, not to forget that Ryzom is actually good game too, or so I hear.
(4. Free Ryzom Project might give all the extra donations back to FSF incase they win Ryzom. - FSF would thus get some extra money to promote Free Software movement or what ever they want to do with it.) _________________ When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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Babali Apprentice


Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 211 Location: France, Paris
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| teidon wrote: | | Babali wrote: | | WTF !! the goal is now 200 000 euro ! We should better give 200 000 euro to planeshift for their devellopment |
Let's not forget couple important facts here, k?
1. There's other groups interested of Ryzom too - Free Ryzom Campaing needs as much money as possible to buy Ryzom for themselves.
2. Ryzom has already "been developed" - Ryzom is a commercial quality game already, unlike Planeshift. Obviously there's still work to be done for Ryzom too, though.
3. If Ryzom becomes FOSS, everything that is part of it will be released under some Free Software license (game engine, sounds, music, graphics, models etc) - That's alot of stuff for FOSS communities, not to forget that Ryzom is actually good game too, or so I hear.
(4. Free Ryzom Project might give all the extra donations back to FSF incase they win Ryzom. - FSF would thus get some extra money to promote Free Software movement or what ever they want to do with it.) |
Ok, you're right.
I am really curious to see if fsf will get ryzom. |
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playfool l33t


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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| I pledged 30 last thursday when I read about it in LWN. A fine project even though I don't play such games myself |
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hook Veteran


Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1398 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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mhm ...it'd be great to see Ryzom become free
btw, it wouldn't hurt renaming this thread ...at least that spelling of Ryzom would be correct. maybe mentioning the initiative for opening/freeing it wouldn't hurt as well :] _________________ tea+free software+law=hook
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kmare l33t


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 619 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| hook wrote: | mhm ...it'd be great to see Ryzom become free
btw, it wouldn't hurt renaming this thread ...at least that spelling of Ryzom would be correct. maybe mentioning the initiative for opening/freeing it wouldn't hurt as well :] |
ooooooops.. thanx for pointing it out.. editing it now  _________________ Never argue with an idiot. They will only pull you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
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Babali Apprentice


Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 211 Location: France, Paris
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Finally gameforge got ryzom! |
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xanas3712 Guru


Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 455
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| Who the heck is gameforge? It was good that they won the bid? |
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kmare l33t


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 619 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: |
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As far as i know they just make php games.. and no, i don't think it's a good thing they won the bid (unless they free everything, but i doupt that). It'd be really huge for the opensource gaming in general if the whole thing became fully gpl. An official annoucement will be made soon... let's see... btw, the movement is not totally over. Read here for more:
http://www.ryzom.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=160 _________________ Never argue with an idiot. They will only pull you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
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MrBlond83 n00b

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 25
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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It's funny that people are paying money to make something free... As far as I know if you pay for something it is not free
It also makes me wonder what happens if FSF won't be able to buy it, will they give all the money back? |
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Doogman Apprentice


Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 236
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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It's a real damn shame that "free" is such a overloaded word in the English language. In the Gnome dictionary, the first definition of free is defined as:
Exempt from subjection to the will of others
Which has nothing to do with the monetary cost of something. So yes, you can pay for something and have it be free. In fact, that's the way it works in almost all cases.
Not that I give a hoot one way or another for a MMORPG. From my brief addiction to MUDs years ago, I think you are better off with drugs or something.  |
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playfool l33t


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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| MrBlond83 wrote: | It's funny that people are paying money to make something free... As far as I know if you pay for something it is not free
It also makes me wonder what happens if FSF won't be able to buy it, will they give all the money back? |
You want the words gratis (free in terms of cost), we were hoping to make Ryzom free (in the freedom sense). This would mean you would get the code, the art, everything needed to run, develop, extend, distribute, etc the game. Also no money will need to be returned, this was a pledge drive, as in I promise to give you X amount given the predetermined condition is met (in this case, winning the bid to buy Ryzom). |
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MrBlond83 n00b

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I understand, I would donate the money, except I do not understand out of all of this, if the game will be made to run natively in linux as a result. |
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playfool l33t


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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| MrBlond83 wrote: | | I understand, I would donate the money, except I do not understand out of all of this, if the game will be made to run natively in linux as a result. |
That is a technical issue and not a really big one, I would say it would be amongst the first goals if we got such a game to make it run on Linux, Windows and Mac. Simply to increase our userbase potential and to show what you can do with the freedom we advocate.
Now that we lost the bid to buy the company and it's assets we must look to other venues to get such a game, I was personally looking more and more forward to playing this as the world looked interesting. |
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MrBlond83 n00b

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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh well, maybe Anarchy Online will be for sale soon? I think the game has been going downhill for the past two years or so, lol. |
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tylerwylie Guru


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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| MrBlond83 wrote: | | Oh well, maybe Anarchy Online will be for sale soon? I think the game has been going downhill for the past two years or so, lol. | We can only hope  _________________ POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. |
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rcb1974 n00b


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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: This game is now (2010-05-06) free software! |
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| Now 3.5 years later, this game is officially released under the AGPL. I'm sure this is way premature, but has anyone made an ebuild for this game yet? Can't wait to try it out. |
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hook Veteran


Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1398 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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The first goal in their RoadMap is to migrate to CMake in order to make packaging work and there's even a Linux Build HOWTO on their Wiki.
...maybe in a few months' time we'll finally be able to "emerge ryzom" :]
Just to add a bit: all the code (i.e. client, server, tools etc.) is under AGPL 3.0 and a lot of the artwork (all textures, but no sound (yet) and no world data) is under CC-BY-SA 3.0 _________________ tea+free software+law=hook
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