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GNUtoo
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i didn't read the whole post but upgrade to the lastest audacious package
because it was also slow for me when i added files and now it work fine |
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Shazam
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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hi there!
is anybody of you using the quick search being available on the key j?
does it really work? because this is the most laggy part of it, the rest is in an "okay"-level.
and the worst part of it, it doesn't sort things out ...
my current version of audacious is 1.2.2, but haven't emerged glitz so far, as a read it wouldn't do much to it... |
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nenolod
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Shazam wrote: | hi there!
is anybody of you using the quick search being available on the key j?
does it really work? because this is the most laggy part of it, the rest is in an "okay"-level.
and the worst part of it, it doesn't sort things out ...
my current version of audacious is 1.2.2, but haven't emerged glitz so far, as a read it wouldn't do much to it... |
For what it's worth, we've rewritten the jump-to-file code in SVN (upcoming 1.3). It's an order of magnitude faster now, and even supports regular expressions for searching. |
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baigsabeeh
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:28 am Post subject: |
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I've used audacious for the past 2 or 3 months and its been working great so far.
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aramdune
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Safe CFLAGS, Audacious 1.2.2. Cairo with Glitz enabled. It seems that when I load 8000+ mp3s in it the playlist window would be so laggy the whole program would be impossible to use. I have an 1.7GHz CPU, 1 GB RAM and accelerated graphics. The search feature it is so slow it is unusable but from what I understand that is sorted in the SVN version. However, what about the playlist? What's wrong with it? (i'm a programmer btw, if it is necessary I could try to fix it -- I'll do anything just to listen to music.)
What about mad support in audacious? Why not? I know about that BMP plugin but I mean what about official support? And what about musepack? The player just crashes if I try to play a mpc file. What about systray support?
I used xmms so far and now I tried audacious because I need a player that does exactly what xmms does, no more, no less.
Any more tips regarding what should I do just to make the program like... maybe an order af magnitude more fast/responsive?
Thanks!
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kulture
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| Shazam wrote: | hi there!
is anybody of you using the quick search being available on the key j?
does it really work? because this is the most laggy part of it, the rest is in an "okay"-level.
and the worst part of it, it doesn't sort things out ...
my current version of audacious is 1.2.2, but haven't emerged glitz so far, as a read it wouldn't do much to it... |
this is due to gtk2 not audacious ive heard.
lets bitch at gtk2's devs forum  |
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Gentree
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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yep, shame a lot of otherwise excellent software is written on top of gtk2. The interface leaves a lot to be desired and the will to review anything is near zero even if you're prepared to code it yourself.
gnome.org dictate the way you work worse than M$ and are so sure they've got it right that they make G.W. Bush look indecisive. 
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01mf02
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| Gentree wrote: | | yep, shame a lot of otherwise excellent software is written on top of gtk2. The interface leaves a lot to be desired and the will to review anything is near zero even if you're prepared to code it yourself. |
I think that's your personal opinion, because I personally like the GTK2 interface a lot - much more than the Qt interface!
And what do you mean with the "will to review"? If you mean reviewing code, I would say no because I changed a bit of the Audacious interface code (written in GTK) and found it to be quite clean (although I had NEVER done any GTK programming before!). |
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kulture
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| is there any xmms-alike in qt? |
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Gentree
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | And what do you mean with the "will to review"? |
I meant the will of gtk+ devs to reconsider if things could be changed for the better. They are generally very refractory (and that's not just my personal opinion). 
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nenolod
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We've pretty much rewritten the old XMMS UI to be event driven as of 1.3.
1.3 alpha1 will be coming out this Friday. Hopefully, it will work better for some of you people who are having problems.
- nenolod |
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kulture
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| nenolod wrote: | We've pretty much rewritten the old XMMS UI to be event driven as of 1.3.
1.3 alpha1 will be coming out this Friday. Hopefully, it will work better for some of you people who are having problems.
- nenolod |
great! looking forward to it. |
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onlinepancakes
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| 01mf02 wrote: | | Gentree wrote: | | yep, shame a lot of otherwise excellent software is written on top of gtk2. The interface leaves a lot to be desired and the will to review anything is near zero even if you're prepared to code it yourself. |
I think that's your personal opinion, because I personally like the GTK2 interface a lot - much more than the Qt interface!
And what do you mean with the "will to review"? If you mean reviewing code, I would say no because I changed a bit of the Audacious interface code (written in GTK) and found it to be quite clean (although I had NEVER done any GTK programming before!). |
Same here with liking GTK2 more than QT. QT seems a lot slower than GTK2. Anyways, never had any slowness with Audacious before when I used it. Seemed quite nice and stable.
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nenolod
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Quoth the release announcement:
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 04:46:39 -0500 (EST)
From: William Pitcock <nenolod@atheme.org>
To: Audacious mailing list <audacious@atheme.org>
Subject: [Audacious] Audacious 1.3 alpha1 release
The audacious team is delighted to announce the 1.3 alpha1 release.
This early 1.3 release is targeted at developers wishing to test the newly
redesigned platform. Please note that this is an alpha release and that
pretty much everything is subject to change at some point during the 1.3
development cycle.
It should be noted that no end-user support will be given for the 1.3
alpha series. If this scares you, you probably should not install it.
Audacious 1.3 alpha1 client:
http://audacious-media-player.org/release/audacious-1.3.0-alpha1.tgz
Audacious 1.3 alpha1 plugins:
http://audacious-media-player.org/release/audacious-plugins-1.3.0-alpha1.tgz
There are no 1.3 versions of audacious-plugins-ugly included in this
release announcement, but it is generally believed that
audacious-plugins-ugly 1.2 will work in an acceptable manner.
Bugs:
Please report all bugs to http://bugs-meta.atheme.org/
Things to watch out for:
- The playlist code is not extremely polished and needs extensive
testing.
- A lot of other stuff has been improved upon. Pretty much, the
entire player needs testing.
SHA1SUMS for this release announcement are:
audacious-1.3.0-alpha1.tgz:
29a14a0e0d659d2c33e793af716c22d25b920241
audacious-plugins-1.3.0-alpha1.tgz:
b9615f07a8b7c700c42b7ae8da66334142ed0d21
Thank you for using Audacious.
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Audacious 1.3 alpha1 is out. It'll be hitting your portage tree later today, most likely. |
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aramdune
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have just installed 1.3. Still the playlist is not usable.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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 1.3 works fine here, it's a bit faster than before. Just drag&drop from gtk-filechooser/any other app to playlist ist (still) b0rked here.
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nenolod
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| aramdune wrote: | | I have just installed 1.3. Still the playlist is not usable. |
I'm not sure what your problem is, sorry. Perhaps you do not have proper Xrender support available (some nvidia drivers had this issue).
A lot of drawing is done in the playlist, so it'd be the most likely to not behave well if there were a lot of entries to manage. |
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nenolod
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| gimpel wrote: | | 1.3 works fine here, it's a bit faster than before. Just drag&drop from gtk-filechooser/any other app to playlist ist (still) b0rked here. |
not having that problem here -- got any specific usecase? what gtk version? |
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gimpel
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| nenolod wrote: | | gimpel wrote: | | 1.3 works fine here, it's a bit faster than before. Just drag&drop from gtk-filechooser/any other app to playlist ist (still) b0rked here. |
not having that problem here -- got any specific usecase? what gtk version? |
hmm, gtk version is 2.10.6
d&d from/to other gtk apps does work (e.g. thunar filemanager)
no specific usecase, just d&d from "add file" dialog or from thunar to playlist.
No output in terminal whatsoever.
With "still" I mean I have that issue since ~2 months.
Anything I can do to debug that?
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aramdune
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| nenolod wrote: | | Perhaps you do not have proper Xrender support available (some nvidia drivers had this issue). |
How can I check that? I have nvidia drivers 8776.
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kjetil
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: audacious laggy interface |
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| John5788 wrote: | | does anyone else experience a laggy interface with audacious? |
Yes, same problem.
But this is a common problem when running programs not using the window manager's window handle in fvwm. Same thing can be observed in for example gtkmm and juce programs. xmms is the only program where its not happening. However, searching the internet, it did have this problem earlier. I once spent almost a day studying xmms's and gtk1 source to find out whats causing this (because I wanted to fix juce), but there is no obvious reason for the behaviour.
Are you by any chance using fvwm? And in case not, which window manager are you using/ |
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nenolod
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| gimpel wrote: | | nenolod wrote: | | gimpel wrote: | | 1.3 works fine here, it's a bit faster than before. Just drag&drop from gtk-filechooser/any other app to playlist ist (still) b0rked here. |
not having that problem here -- got any specific usecase? what gtk version? |
hmm, gtk version is 2.10.6
d&d from/to other gtk apps does work (e.g. thunar filemanager)
no specific usecase, just d&d from "add file" dialog or from thunar to playlist.
No output in terminal whatsoever.
With "still" I mean I have that issue since ~2 months.
Anything I can do to debug that? |
hmm, can you get on IRC? perhaps you are dragging invalid files or something .. anyway, we can probably debug it better in something more realtime than a forum (; |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:05 am Post subject: Re: audacious laggy interface |
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| kjetil wrote: | | John5788 wrote: | | does anyone else experience a laggy interface with audacious? |
Yes, same problem.
But this is a common problem when running programs not using the window manager's window handle in fvwm. Same thing can be observed in for example gtkmm and juce programs. xmms is the only program where its not happening. However, searching the internet, it did have this problem earlier. I once spent almost a day studying xmms's and gtk1 source to find out whats causing this (because I wanted to fix juce), but there is no obvious reason for the behaviour.
Are you by any chance using fvwm? And in case not, which window manager are you using/ |
i am using fvwm
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DoktorSeven
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Just grabbed the 1.3-alpha2 and it's still having most of the same laggy, buggy interface issues I've seen before. Playlist scrolling is slow, moving is slow (and puts a load on X), and the resize of the playlist is still horribly screwed -- grabbing the resize and pulling it down the screen makes it resize far above where I'm moving it (the resize outline is anywhere from about 100-500 pixels above where I'm dragging it to, depending on where the window is and how far I'm resizing).
On the positive side, the issue I had with the back/forward buttons occasionally not working seems to be fixed. EDIT: Never mind, spoke too soon. It still happens (had to run Audacious for a little while).
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kjetil
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: Re: audacious laggy interface |
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| John5788 wrote: | | kjetil wrote: | | John5788 wrote: | | does anyone else experience a laggy interface with audacious? |
Yes, same problem.
But this is a common problem when running programs not using the window manager's window handle in fvwm. Same thing can be observed in for example gtkmm and juce programs. xmms is the only program where its not happening. However, searching the internet, it did have this problem earlier. I once spent almost a day studying xmms's and gtk1 source to find out whats causing this (because I wanted to fix juce), but there is no obvious reason for the behaviour.
Are you by any chance using fvwm? And in case not, which window manager are you using/ |
i am using fvwm |
Yeah, I thought so. This bug (or whatever it is) is the only reason I sometimes want to switch to a different window manager.
But since fvwm is the best...
I wish they fixed this problem though. |
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