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Why on earth would someone be so petty as to want only FSF approved "free" licenses on their system?
It is a joke.
I feel sorry that the developers had to spend time making this for those users...
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Debian converts maybe. *shrug* Dosen't bother me either way, so long as I'm not restricted by default. Also, I'd think such a change should be relatively easy to implement.
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| In the real world, companies have to care about software licencing. They may not want to automatically expose themselves to the kind of liabilities that're involved in some of the non-free licences (for Borland software, for example, you agree to pay Borland to perform an audit of all of your computers if they request it). FSF approved is a good starting point for 'safe' licences. |
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Conditional_Zenith
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Accept_license |
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| cokehabit wrote: | Why on earth would someone be so petty as to want only FSF approved "free" licenses on their system?
It is a joke.
I feel sorry that the developers had to spend time making this for those users... |
I would say that they want to be sure that the "four freedoms" apply to all the software they are using. FSF approved licenses would approximate that set better than anything else I can think of. That is not petty IMHO.
Are you trying flamebaiting or something? |
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cokey
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Accept_license |
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| Conditional_Zenith wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | Why on earth would someone be so petty as to want only FSF approved "free" licenses on their system?
It is a joke.
I feel sorry that the developers had to spend time making this for those users... |
I would say that they want to be sure that the "four freedoms" apply to all the software they are using. FSF approved licenses would approximate that set better than anything else I can think of. That is not petty IMHO.
Are you trying flamebaiting or something? |
1) why the need for these "four freedoms"?
2) what are they?
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Sorry, I thought you were familiar with them.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
* Freedom 0: The freedom to run the program for any purpose.
* Freedom 1: The freedom to study and modify the program.
* Freedom 2: The freedom to copy the program so you can help your neighbor.
* Freedom 3: The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits.
I will leave it to you to decide why these are needed/wanted. Some people don't care, others do.
Since these are basically the criteria for FSF approval of a license, people who want these freedoms for all their software will probably want to only install packages with FSF approved licenses.
You should probably have done this research before you started calling things petty/a joke. |
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desultory
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| cokehabit wrote: | | Conditional_Zenith wrote: | | Are you trying flamebaiting or something? |
1) why the need for these "four freedoms"?
2) what are they? |
For those in the audience needing a translation of the response by cokehabit: yes this is flamebait. |
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cokey
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| desultory wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | Conditional_Zenith wrote: | | Are you trying flamebaiting or something? |
1) why the need for these "four freedoms"?
2) what are they? |
For those in the audience needing a translation of the response by cokehabit: yes this is flamebait. |
don't try and troll me
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cokey
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| Conditional_Zenith wrote: | Sorry, I thought you were familiar with them.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
* Freedom 0: The freedom to run the program for any purpose.
* Freedom 1: The freedom to study and modify the program.
* Freedom 2: The freedom to copy the program so you can help your neighbor.
* Freedom 3: The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits.
I will leave it to you to decide why these are needed/wanted. Some people don't care, others do.
Since these are basically the criteria for FSF approval of a license, people who want these freedoms for all their software will probably want to only install packages with FSF approved licenses.
You should probably have done this research before you started calling things petty/a joke. |
people who only want software that conforms with that are being pretty petty. The way i see it is that people really go overboard and become stallman zealots.
We get the software for free, we can use the source code for most of it, why the hell do we argue over the licenses? We should be pleased that we get the software for free, not have a go at different people because they put it under a certain license and we certainly shouldn't be filtering out certain licenses because one is free and the other one is free-er
That is petty.
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wow, you know how to post links? 
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| cokehabit wrote: | | We get the software for free, we can use the source code for most of it, why the hell do we argue over the licenses? |
In case that was not entirely rhetorical, lawyers.
| cokehabit wrote: | | wow, you know how to post links? |
I can capitalize properly too. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | wow, you know how to post links? |
That's enough. Kindly get lost if you don't wish to adhere to the forum guidelines.
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