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Naan Yaar Bodhisattva

Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: Goodbye, Gentoo |
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| Many of the "older" forum denizens may remember me as a long-time user and ex-moderator. I have had to bid a sad adieu to my Gentoo installation after close to 5 years of use to move on to Ubuntu. The main reasons for this change are a lack of time to deal with updates that are sometimes adventurous and want of a bit more automation in terms of dealing with my system. I have always loved the Gentoo concept, wide range of available software and clean package management through emerge. I thank all the developers who toil hard, sometimes thanklessly, to put all the pieces of Gentoo together. Thanks also to everyone in the forums who provided input when I had a question and moderators, especially rac and klieber, for their interaction. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 27780 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Naan Yaar,
Good luck with your chosen OS. Any OS is a tool to go a job - no more.
Choose the tool that suits you.
You won't be able to stay away ... see you soon. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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mark_alec Bodhisattva


Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 6066 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Gentoo Chat. _________________ www.gentoo.org.au || #gentoo-au |
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voidzero Bodhisattva


Joined: 21 Jul 2002 Posts: 234 Location: Grnn
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | | You won't be able to stay away ... see you soon. |
Heh, my thoughts exactly. See ya later  _________________ I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. |
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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 15989 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Good luck. I actually thought you left years ago, as I hadn't perceived you posting any more. _________________ Safety is my gaol.
US Constitution | Amendments |
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<3 l33t

Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 629
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| You will be back... they all come back eventually. |
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baigsabeeh Guru


Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 520 Location: North Brunswick, NJ
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| <3 wrote: | | You will be back... they all come back eventually. |
You can say that again. I've tried so many but Gentoo has always stuck. _________________ BSD > SysV > Linux
BSD FTW! |
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amne Bodhisattva


Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Posts: 6377 Location: Graz / EU
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Bye Naan Yaar. _________________ Dinosaur week! (Ok, this thread is so last week) |
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cokehabit Advocate

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | Good luck. I actually thought you left years ago, as I hadn't perceived you posting any more. | I thought the same thing of Rac. |
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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 15989 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | I thought the same thing of Rac. | Last I heard, he's been gone a "long time." Since sometime in 2005 IIRC. _________________ Safety is my gaol.
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nico_calais l33t


Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 628 Location: Saint Julien en Genevois
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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The last guy who said he was quitting gentoo in the french forum came back after two weeks. So, see you soon  _________________ "Unix IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." Tollef Fog Heen tollef@add.no |
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swooshOnLn l33t


Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 741 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.
Ill see YOU in dependency hell _________________ "WARNING: you may LOL"
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cokehabit Advocate

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | I thought the same thing of Rac. | Last I heard, he's been gone a "long time." Since sometime in 2005 IIRC. | heh, thats when i wondered where he was. I remember not seeing him for ages since 2004 and then he says a couple of things in 2005 and the next thing i hear is that he has been retired |
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chrisstankevitz Guru

Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 465 Location: Santa Barbara, CA, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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SlCKB0Y Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 07 Jul 2002 Posts: 105 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| swooshOnLn wrote: | I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.
Ill see YOU in dependency hell |
I wonder if people who make stupid comments like this have actually used a deb based system? |
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Diezel l33t


Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 600 Location: Karjaa, Finland
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| SlCKB0Y wrote: | | swooshOnLn wrote: | I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.
Ill see YOU in dependency hell |
I wonder if people who make stupid comments like this have actually used a deb based system? |
And even RPM:s work theese days. Yum works like a charm at work. We use CentOS in about 90% of our routers and Linux servers and never had any problems with them.
The dependency hell was years and years ago, you can setup a good desktop with just about any modern RH based distro by adding a few repos.
Also Ubuntu family works great.
Still I guess I should STFU since I use Gentoo myself  _________________ A bus station is where a bus stops, a train station is where a train stops. On
my desk I have a work station..
Nixadmins.net
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swooshOnLn l33t


Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 741 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| SlCKB0Y wrote: | | swooshOnLn wrote: | I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.
Ill see YOU in dependency hell |
I wonder if people who make stupid comments like this have actually used a deb based system? |
what does my reply have anythign to do with a deb based system? _________________ "WARNING: you may LOL"
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chrismcdirty Apprentice


Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 160 Location: Newark, DE
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I've also tried to "quit" Gentoo, as my laptop was showing signs of aging and taking forever to compile some of the more trivial packages. Like you, I moved to Ubuntu. And stayed there for a good month or two, until I wanted a package that wasn't in the base repository. So I added an unofficial repository to /etc/apt/sources.apt (or whatever the filename is), then the dependency hell started. For some reason, even though they were all breezy repositories, a lot of the libraries didn't match up correctly. And soon, I had enough. With Gentoo, it may have taken longer to get what I wanted, but it worked 99% of the time. Plus, this community is second to none.
So, good luck with your new choice. Hope it suits you well.
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batistuta Veteran


Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 1384 Location: Aachen
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| chrismcdirty wrote: | | Plus, this community is second to none |
I second this! If you ever try to use other forums, you will know what this means. The contrast blinds your eyes. I think the unique aspect of this community is the balance between techincal competence and fun. Try that in a BSD mailing list!
Since I also like Ubuntu, I propose the "Forums for dual Ubuntu/Gentoo users"
I actually think that they are both excellent choices, so if time is a factor, I wish you Naan Yaar good luck, Ubuntu is great. If you get some time back and are up for more challenging stuff, and wanna hang around with the guys here, you will be welcomed back. As NeddySeagoon said, an OS is a tool. So pick the one that suits you.
Gentoo's "leave the choice to the user" philosophy should be the first one to understand that using another OS is indeed an acceptable choice. |
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swooshOnLn l33t


Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 741 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like the idea of Ubuntu/Gentoo on the same forum. No offense to anybody, but it seems like that would attract alot of script kiddies (haha), and that the forum would just be slowed down for us Gentoo users :-p
But really, its better to keep the separate, ones source, ones binary. _________________ "WARNING: you may LOL"
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batistuta Veteran


Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 1384 Location: Aachen
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| swooshOnLn wrote: | I don't like the idea of Ubuntu/Gentoo on the same forum. No offense to anybody, but it seems like that would attract alot of script kiddies (haha), and that the forum would just be slowed down for us Gentoo users :-p
But really, its better to keep the separate, ones source, ones binary. |
I agree! I've meant (in my joke) that we should have a Gentoo/Ubuntu forum, were in order to log-in, you'd need a Gentoo Forums account with more than 500 (usefull) posts  |
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swooshOnLn l33t


Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 741 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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haha, or how about to log into Gentoo, you need an Ubuntu account with more than 500 posts, that way we can set up some kind of hierarchy of Linux distro's. _________________ "WARNING: you may LOL"
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cokehabit Advocate

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| swooshOnLn wrote: | | haha, or how about to log into Gentoo, you need an Ubuntu account with more than 500 posts, that way we can set up some kind of hierarchy of Linux distro's. | no, it should be the other way around. You cannot post in ubuntu until you have helped 500 times in Gentoo |
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swooshOnLn l33t


Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 741 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:58 am Post subject: |
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yeah but ubuntus so easy, why would you have to stick with a harder distro for 500 post before you can go easy w/ ubuntu? _________________ "WARNING: you may LOL"
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sonicbhoc Veteran


Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1805 Location: In front of the computer screen
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| swooshOnLn wrote: | | yeah but ubuntus so easy |
I stopped reading right there. Easy and better are not synonymous. And I find Gentoo in the long run to be easier than most binary based distros, because after a while you'll want to get something done, and the command line is the easiest way to do it... but they'll try to force a GUI on you that is cumbersome/slow/confusing and configuring things through the CLI might not work right in some of these distros. Plus, I find administrating Gentoo much easier than other distros. I know some people have a problem with it, but over here I run a totally ~x86 system and don't have a single problem aside from CUPS. But then again that kinda broke for a whole lot of people, so it's not Gentoo's fault. |
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