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Naan Yaar
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Goodbye, Gentoo Reply with quote

Many of the "older" forum denizens may remember me as a long-time user and ex-moderator. I have had to bid a sad adieu to my Gentoo installation after close to 5 years of use to move on to Ubuntu. The main reasons for this change are a lack of time to deal with updates that are sometimes adventurous and want of a bit more automation in terms of dealing with my system. I have always loved the Gentoo concept, wide range of available software and clean package management through emerge. I thank all the developers who toil hard, sometimes thanklessly, to put all the pieces of Gentoo together. Thanks also to everyone in the forums who provided input when I had a question and moderators, especially rac and klieber, for their interaction.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naan Yaar,

Good luck with your chosen OS. Any OS is a tool to go a job - no more.
Choose the tool that suits you.

You won't be able to stay away ... see you soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Gentoo Chat.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
You won't be able to stay away ... see you soon.


Heh, my thoughts exactly. See ya later 8)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck. I actually thought you left years ago, as I hadn't perceived you posting any more.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will be back... they all come back eventually.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<3 wrote:
You will be back... they all come back eventually.


You can say that again. I've tried so many but Gentoo has always stuck.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bye Naan Yaar.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Good luck. I actually thought you left years ago, as I hadn't perceived you posting any more.
I thought the same thing of Rac.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought the same thing of Rac.
Last I heard, he's been gone a "long time." Since sometime in 2005 IIRC.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last guy who said he was quitting gentoo in the french forum came back after two weeks. So, see you soon :wink:
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? :wink: You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.


Ill see YOU in dependency hell
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
I thought the same thing of Rac.
Last I heard, he's been gone a "long time." Since sometime in 2005 IIRC.
heh, thats when i wondered where he was. I remember not seeing him for ages since 2004 and then he says a couple of things in 2005 and the next thing i hear is that he has been retired
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swooshOnLn wrote:
I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? :wink: You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.


Ill see YOU in dependency hell


I wonder if people who make stupid comments like this have actually used a deb based system?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlCKB0Y wrote:
swooshOnLn wrote:
I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? :wink: You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.


Ill see YOU in dependency hell


I wonder if people who make stupid comments like this have actually used a deb based system?

And even RPM:s work theese days. Yum works like a charm at work. We use CentOS in about 90% of our routers and Linux servers and never had any problems with them.
The dependency hell was years and years ago, you can setup a good desktop with just about any modern RH based distro by adding a few repos.
Also Ubuntu family works great.
Still I guess I should STFU since I use Gentoo myself ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlCKB0Y wrote:
swooshOnLn wrote:
I mean really.... how much REAL extra work does gentoo take? :wink: You will never be able to let go of Gentoo's superior grip. Portage is like crack to nerds. You cant quit it, trust me. Ive tried.


Ill see YOU in dependency hell


I wonder if people who make stupid comments like this have actually used a deb based system?



what does my reply have anythign to do with a deb based system?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also tried to "quit" Gentoo, as my laptop was showing signs of aging and taking forever to compile some of the more trivial packages. Like you, I moved to Ubuntu. And stayed there for a good month or two, until I wanted a package that wasn't in the base repository. So I added an unofficial repository to /etc/apt/sources.apt (or whatever the filename is), then the dependency hell started. For some reason, even though they were all breezy repositories, a lot of the libraries didn't match up correctly. And soon, I had enough. With Gentoo, it may have taken longer to get what I wanted, but it worked 99% of the time. Plus, this community is second to none.

So, good luck with your new choice. Hope it suits you well.

And see you soon ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrismcdirty wrote:
Plus, this community is second to none

I second this! If you ever try to use other forums, you will know what this means. The contrast blinds your eyes. I think the unique aspect of this community is the balance between techincal competence and fun. Try that in a BSD mailing list! :lol:

Since I also like Ubuntu, I propose the "Forums for dual Ubuntu/Gentoo users" :D

I actually think that they are both excellent choices, so if time is a factor, I wish you Naan Yaar good luck, Ubuntu is great. If you get some time back and are up for more challenging stuff, and wanna hang around with the guys here, you will be welcomed back. As NeddySeagoon said, an OS is a tool. So pick the one that suits you.

Gentoo's "leave the choice to the user" philosophy should be the first one to understand that using another OS is indeed an acceptable choice.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like the idea of Ubuntu/Gentoo on the same forum. No offense to anybody, but it seems like that would attract alot of script kiddies (haha), and that the forum would just be slowed down for us Gentoo users :-p

But really, its better to keep the separate, ones source, ones binary.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swooshOnLn wrote:
I don't like the idea of Ubuntu/Gentoo on the same forum. No offense to anybody, but it seems like that would attract alot of script kiddies (haha), and that the forum would just be slowed down for us Gentoo users :-p

But really, its better to keep the separate, ones source, ones binary.

I agree! I've meant (in my joke) that we should have a Gentoo/Ubuntu forum, were in order to log-in, you'd need a Gentoo Forums account with more than 500 (usefull) posts :D
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, or how about to log into Gentoo, you need an Ubuntu account with more than 500 posts, that way we can set up some kind of hierarchy of Linux distro's.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swooshOnLn wrote:
haha, or how about to log into Gentoo, you need an Ubuntu account with more than 500 posts, that way we can set up some kind of hierarchy of Linux distro's.
no, it should be the other way around. You cannot post in ubuntu until you have helped 500 times in Gentoo
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah but ubuntus so easy, why would you have to stick with a harder distro for 500 post before you can go easy w/ ubuntu?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swooshOnLn wrote:
yeah but ubuntus so easy


I stopped reading right there. Easy and better are not synonymous. And I find Gentoo in the long run to be easier than most binary based distros, because after a while you'll want to get something done, and the command line is the easiest way to do it... but they'll try to force a GUI on you that is cumbersome/slow/confusing and configuring things through the CLI might not work right in some of these distros. Plus, I find administrating Gentoo much easier than other distros. I know some people have a problem with it, but over here I run a totally ~x86 system and don't have a single problem aside from CUPS. But then again that kinda broke for a whole lot of people, so it's not Gentoo's fault.
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