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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: (Gentoo) Linux on Toshiba Satellite A70 Reply with quote

Hey everyone.
I am contimplating getting a laptop, the Satellite A70.
The specs are here. Clicky!

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone out there has the A70 and has Linux working on it seamlessly. (Yes, I know it will not work 100% out of the box, and I am willing to do a lot of tweaking as long as it will eventually work.)

Can anyone tell me if something just plain will not work under Linux on this laptop?
My important requirments are:
The Suspend, 3D graphic acceleration, sound, usb, int. wireless, infared, SVideo out, and I seriously want the buttons near the keyboard (the ones on the left for multimedia) to also work.

Also, the resolution for the notebook (because its widescreen) is 1280x600. Will that cause problems?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/

leads to

http://www.computx.us/gentoo-A70.html
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent! Thanks alot pjp!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats all well and good, but I was wondering if anyone has attempted things that are not mentioned in this article, or unknown in this article.

Im wondering about those Media buttons on the left of the keyboard, the SVideo out as well.
Does anyone have these working on an A70?

Thanks very much!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUMP. :d

I bought the laptop by the way, but Im waiting for it to ship.
Any comments are appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an A65. Fairly similar, I think. Stupid multimedia keys never worked. (Neither did ACPI events) I have a guide to the A65 on my website. (link in signature)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Alaran wrote:
I bought an A65. Fairly similar, I think. Stupid multimedia keys never worked. (Neither did ACPI events) I have a guide to the A65 on my website. (link in signature)


Do you think in the future the Linux kernel could support those keys or is it a permanent incompatability?
Thanks!

Oh yes, when you say ACPI events, what exactly do you mean? :oops:
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using Gentoo on a Toshiba A75, which is pretty similar. As with previous poster, I haven't gotten all the function keys to work, and I haven't tried S-video out. But overall it works fine - I have a webpage that you might be interested in, focuses to a certain degree on slackware but there are comments on gentoo as well. See <http://jmccoy.sdf-us.org/linux/toshiba-a75.php>
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks alot!
Every bit helps.
Please post back if you get the SVideo out or more ACPI working.
Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Toshiba Reply with quote

Well I have Gentoo running fine on my Toshiba laptop. Actually I had originally installed Fedora Core 3 and it failed misserably due to ACPI issues, I had eventually gotten it running but it was slow as the yellow dog I used to ride to school when I was a kid.. (ya a bus) at any rate I wiped it and installed Gentoo and it's fast, no acpi issues.. and everything works perfectly. I don't think my Toshiba is as new as yours but it has most of the same hardware so that should be fine. After trying Gentoo now on several laptops.. it's the only distro for a laptop simply because of the performance boost and tweakability. :) You deffinately need to give it a shot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Toshiba Reply with quote

corley wrote:
Well I have Gentoo running fine on my Toshiba laptop. Actually I had originally installed Fedora Core 3 and it failed misserably due to ACPI issues, I had eventually gotten it running but it was slow as the yellow dog I used to ride to school when I was a kid.. (ya a bus) at any rate I wiped it and installed Gentoo and it's fast, no acpi issues.. and everything works perfectly. I don't think my Toshiba is as new as yours but it has most of the same hardware so that should be fine. After trying Gentoo now on several laptops.. it's the only distro for a laptop simply because of the performance boost and tweakability. :) You deffinately need to give it a shot.


Well, of course I will be putting Gentoo on it. I just want to know what not to waste my time tweaking, if it wont ever work.
Also, in your experience, which is better? To go with a new kernel (2.6.11 or something, or go with something a little older
and proven, like 2.6.9 is? Can you guys recommed a patch(set?) for it? (You know, Vanilla type, mm2, love, etc)

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anybody got suspend (to ram or disk) to work on the A70? I've had no luck so far. I just want to close the lid and have it go to sleep. It gets really hot if you close the lid and it stays powered on, so, as it stands, I shut it down everytime I'm done with it. :(
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadScientist wrote:
Has anybody got suspend (to ram or disk) to work on the A70? I've had no luck so far. I just want to close the lid and have it go to sleep. It gets really hot if you close the lid and it stays powered on, so, as it stands, I shut it down everytime I'm done with it. :(


Im not sure, but can you rig the BIOS to do a suspend when you push the POWER button?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Im not sure, but can you rig the BIOS to do a suspend when you push the POWER button?
Ian

There is no (configurable) power management in the BIOS at all. There's not even a screen for it. :(
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadScientist wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
Im not sure, but can you rig the BIOS to do a suspend when you push the POWER button?
Ian

There is no (configurable) power management in the BIOS at all. There's not even a screen for it. :(


Oh... Thats strange.. My old laptop (Toshiba) did...
Sorry..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omega21 wrote:
MadScientist wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
Im not sure, but can you rig the BIOS to do a suspend when you push the POWER button?
Ian

There is no (configurable) power management in the BIOS at all. There's not even a screen for it. :(


Oh... Thats strange.. My old laptop (Toshiba) did...
Sorry..


Naah... The stuff that "just works" has been deemed obsolete. Everything's now handled by the custom Windows drivers that they ship.

What I mean by ACPI events: try
Code:
cat /proc/acpi/event

Then press your power button once or twice, then close the lid. If you get something like
Code:

button/power PWRF 00000080 00000001

then your laptop is getting acpi events. My A65 did not using any kernel that I compiled in Gentoo. Apparently Debian has some huge patchset that they apply to their kernel, so Ubuntu worked somewhat well. (However, wireless did not work in Ubuntu, and you can guess what I think is more important) (said patch is a few hundred thousand lines, I found it on the ubuntu servers, would not work in Gentoo)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Touchpad at A70 Reply with quote

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IMPORTANT
TOSHIBA A70

You need to disable =legacy USB support= in the bios.

The touchpad do not work with this function enabled at the BIOS. You do not have a touchpad working without disabling this function.
The laptop Toshiba A70 use the chip i8042 for keyboard and touchpad, if this function is enabled at BIOS the touchpad don`t works. When you disable the legacy USB support, at boot time you can see two devices at /proc/bus/input/device, KBD and Mouse. The kbd is the /dev/input/event0 and mouse is the /dev/input/event1. You need to check EVDEV at the kernel.

You have two processors, it is a P4 HT, so enable SMP (multiprocessors) at kernel and put 2 cpus. The WiFi you need to enable at kernel only the support, after the install you emerge mad-wifi.

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O laptop Toshiba A70 usa um chip, o i8042, tanto para o teclado como para o mouse touchpad. Se na BIOS estiver ativado (enabled) a função LEGACY USB SUPPORT o touchpad não funciona nem com reza brava. Depois de desabilitado o maledeto código, no boot aparece o AUX e o KBD separado no /proc/bus/input/device, nesse caso o /dev/input/event0 é o teclado e o /dev/input/event1 é o touchpad. Lembrando que o kernel deve ser configurado com EDEV.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Touchpad at A70 Reply with quote

ventura_b wrote:
You need to disable =legacy USB support= in the bios.

The touchpad do not work with this function enabled at the BIOS. You do not have a touchpad working without disabling this function.

Hmmmm... I have legacy USB support enabled and my touchpad works fine. It must be related to the selection of drivers I made. Does disabling this support break anything? How about the external mouse port?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadScientist wrote:
Has anybody got suspend (to ram or disk) to work on the A70? I've had no luck so far. I just want to close the lid and have it go to sleep. It gets really hot if you close the lid and it stays powered on, so, as it stands, I shut it down everytime I'm done with it. :(

I got suspend to disk working with swsusp2 by disabling smp support. I guess this means no more hyperthreading, but as a 3GHz machine, it's pretty fast as it is, so I'm not too upset. Having hibernate work is much more important to me.

Also, for hibernate, set net.ath0 to restart so that it will stop on suspend and start on resume. So far no issues with driver reloading, but it dropped off the network and needed to re-authenticate. Maybe you don't even need this if you don't use WPA or WEP. And make sure you have suspend support enabled for any drivers that have it as an explicit option. USB is the only one that comes to mind.

My next challenge is getting the splashutils progress bar to work. Splashutils works fine, but no progress. From what I read in these forums, if splash works, progress just works too so I'm stuck. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: just for chat... Reply with quote

Well,

I own a Toshiba A75-2??

I did try as hard as my expertise goes, but nothing I could do managed to make any form of temperature checking on this laptop. I experienced many overheating problems (as I live on a tropical country) and would very much appreciate any ideas.

Also, My best experience with the video driver was ati-drivers, although to use it I had to give up full screen when in console mode (it goes to 1024x786, but not 1200x800).

I had too problems with the legacy usb in the bios, when I installed it my keyboard went dead (but my previous slackware install did not have this issue...)

I heard somewhere that the new 2.6.17 kernel release will be able to access the multi-card reader in this laptop (although not every model has it, my has). I did "ACCEPT=~x86 emerge vanilla-sources" but no device appeared when I inserted the sd card on the reader. I did not test this very much.

Right now I am having problems with rebooting. It hangs.

My experiences are (very lazyly) related at my site.

Well, just my 2c

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just got it back from reparation, they changed the hard drive and now i can not reboot and hibernate anymore!!!!

its a western digital of 60gb, a little faster than the old one. I use a ghost image si its not the instaltion. Every live-cd do the same thing, ne reboot. I tryed with usb legacy on and off, but nothing, it just dont work.

Any idea?
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