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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: amd64-release of "small gentoo", liveCD with JMicr Reply with quote

Gentoo 2006.1 livecd with JMicron-Support (JMB363/361/36x), "small gentoo", amd64-release

Hi,

this is my first release of the long-awaited amd64 / em64t (/ intel64 :lol: )-version of "small gentoo", a Gentoo/GNU-Linux based liveCD with JMicron-Support & broad hardware-support

This CD should work fine on Intel Pentium 4, Pentium D, Intel Core2 Duo, AMD Athlon64, Athlon64 X2, Opteron, ...

It doesn't work on Itanium (entirely! 64-bit)

The goal of "small gentoo" is to provide a liveCD to support (most) of the most cutting edge hardware / features, yet stay as close as possible to the original gentoo-livecd

r1 is based on vipernicus' emission-source stable-release 2.6.18-emission1: Pathological Euphoria

r2 is based on 2.6.18-mm1

each release is being tested by myself for several hours, simulating an installation of gentoo
so this release should be working pretty fine for you, if it doesn't please let me & the community know
I'm sure there will be help:
a bugfix for the kernel, an updated version of applications ...
Since I only have one system, based on an Asus P5W DH Deluxe, I can only speak of my own experience ...

Due to the fact, that I'm getting into higher semesters at study which "eats up" a big part of my time (I don't want to fail & I like my study :wink: )
I can only provide limited support for this & further releases ...

featurelist:

* based on gentoo 2006.1 with gcc 4.1.1, glibc 2.4 (nptl & nptlonly), linux-headers-2.6.17
* threading enabled
* based on 2.6.18-emission1 stable release (kudos to vipernicus)
* really preemptive system ;-) (feels pretty smooth)
* improved bootup with readahead-list
* reiser4progs => reiser4-support !
* ntfsprogs, dosfstools
* hddtemp, smartmontools, ide-smart, hdparm, sdparm
* ysm, licq, elinks, ncftp
* mc with 7zip-support (dunno if it's working)
* rpm2targz, deb2targz
* mdadm, raidtools, device-mapper, evms, lvm2 (don't know if lvm2 works ...)
* bmon, htop
* parted, app-admin/testdisk (for rescue measures)
* mirrorselect (for a faster gentoo-installation)
* chkrootkit, rkhunter, chpax, johntheripper
* bc
* irssi, screen, (for you, cheater1034 :wink: ) links (somehow graphical mode doesn't work ?!, sorry!)
* rp-pppoe, pppoe
* broad support of SCSI & S-ATA (nearly allmodconfig)
* rovclock (underclocking of ATI mobility cards), powernowd (for frequency switching)

changes to r2 (still testing / ?):
* based on gentoo 2006.1 with gcc 4.1.1, glibc 2.5 (nptl & nptlonly), linux-headers-2.6.17
* based on 2.6.18-mm1
* not that preemptive, but it works :wink:
* kernel-fallback: the default now is genkernel => type in genkernel-irqpoll or genkernel-nofb, if that fails, you still can use gentoo-nofb & gentoo-irqpoll
* module-loading support of the non-kernel-version at bootup is broken, you can however, still insert modules with insmod and entering the absolute path
* added support for dmraid => type in
Code:
genkernel-irqpoll dodmraid
for dmraid support

To be released ...

For more information on "small gentoo", the Gentoo-based liveCD with JMicron-Support:
home of "small gentoo" (link)



One word of advice:
If you plan to use reiser4 for / (root), then don't enable RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP=yes & don't use readahead-list and readahead-list-early
since that may lead to the famous Segmentation fault of fsck.reiser4

HAVE A LOT OF FUN :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we will be able to download it?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Thx so much :D


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Xyzk, right now :wink:

click the link
Quote:
home of "small gentoo" (link)


or on my signature "small gentoo" liveCD with JMicron support & more

@Jjeje007:
thanks for testing / using it!

is it working fine for you? could you please give some information concerning your hardware (especially Mainboard, JMicron-Controller ? :roll: , Network Card)

btw, could you please remove the direct link to that file ? the hosting site shouldn't be abused as "pure" ftp / download mirror

Thanks in advance for your feedback
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would always stop loading at some point when I tried using dodmraid, but otherwise it loaded fine. Unfortunately I need dodmraid to work. :( Any solutions?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you tried to boot the CD without the dodmraid option & then setting up a raid with mdadm ?

the following raid-modules are compiled in:

Code:
#
# Multi-device support (RAID and LVM)
#
CONFIG_MD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y
CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=y
CONFIG_MD_RAID0=y
CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y
CONFIG_MD_RAID10=y
CONFIG_MD_RAID456=y
CONFIG_MD_RAID5_RESHAPE=y
CONFIG_MD_MULTIPATH=y
CONFIG_MD_FAULTY=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM=y
CONFIG_DM_CRYPT=y
CONFIG_DM_SNAPSHOT=y
CONFIG_DM_MIRROR=y
CONFIG_DM_ZERO=y
CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH=y
CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_EMC=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM_BBR is not set


Code:
#
# SCSI device support
#
CONFIG_RAID_ATTRS=y
CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y



could someone please explain, what dodmraid exactly does? (besides the fact of loading raid-drivers ?)
how do I simply include dmraid? does emerging it and loading it with dodmraid suffice?

=> I will digg into this some more, stay tuned ...

Update:

ok, dmraid is still masked & seems to have severe issues with new kernels >=2.6.15 ...

as far as I understand, you should use mdadm [preferred method] or raidtools (older) (both included on this CD) to create a raid array

I hope you are able to set up a raid using mdadm ...

references:
http://tienstra4.flatnet.tudelft.nl/~gerte/gen2dmraid/
http://www.archivesat.com/Gentoo_Linux_Amd64_port/thread699550-1.htm
[url]http://da.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Bios_(Onboard)_RAID] [/url]
Using mdadm to Configure RAID-Based and Multipath Storage

hm, there is a working dmraid-version however you need genkernel for this ...:
working dmraid ...

I'll take a look at it ...
if you really need it & mdadm doesn't work, please let me know

hope this helps ...
let me know, if you tried out / have news ...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, I need your feedback / help:

the next release is going to feature 2 kernels (if both work with modules)

the topics I need input with:

- does mdadm interfere with dmraid ? (can I have dmraid-support compiled into genkernel & at the same time having mdadm installed -> because mdadm loads at boot, so there could be trouble)

- does the 8169 Realtek gigabit-network work with 2.6.18-mm1 ? (since sky2 is broken on 2.6.18-mm2 & -mm3 these kernels aren't taken into consideration, and so won't the newest no-sources ...)

- does the 8169 Realtek gigabit-network work with the kernel currently provided on r1 of this liveCD ?

- do you need additional software which isn't too big to be included on the CD (mainly console-based)?

(more to come ...)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another bug I noticed:
Keyboard layout selection does not work properly. Even if I chose the German layout, I still geht English after the system boots.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aceFruchtsaft, thanks for reporting this bug

how is this livecd working for you ?

hm, I should have mentioned this earlier, this also applies to all earlier releases (x86) :roll:

this is due to the fact that I haven't completely understood the initrd on the livecd-system
there should be keyboard-layout files at /etc/sysconfig/
as far as I know, but I haven't (yet) found the appropriate program(s) for setting this up via initrd ...

you can change your keyboard layout by changing
Code:
/etc/conf.d/keymaps
=>
Code:
"us"
to
Code:
"de-latin1"


and then restarting the keymaps daemon

Code:
/etc/init.d/keymaps restart


=> hope these steps help you ...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: request for r2 Reply with quote

hi there!

first off huge thanks for this amazing CD! I have one problem with it (a rather severe one IMO) : my Realtek Network Card doesn't work since apparently the r8169 isn't included in the kernel :( could this please be fixed for r2? I tried to compile the module from the emission sources (which worked flawlessly) but when I try to insmod it, I get an unknown symbol error and it fails...

the final x86 version didn't have this problem with the network card! On the brighter side of things, both versions worked perfectly with the JMicron on my Asus P5B (to which I connected my system drive (a compact flash card) and a CD-ROM - both IDE - with the controller configured as AHCI).

thanks again for your time :)

dave

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ kernelOfTruth :

Sorry for the direct link, i removed it :lol:

For the testing, i can't right now because i still waiting for my mother board ( ASUSTeK P5W DH .... same as you :D ) and that why i was searching some "news" and i found your post and your release :wink:

Any way, i'll try when i'll get this mother board :wink:

Note : If you want some hosting i can provide you some .... :)

Thx for the work
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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isn't included in the kernel


oops :oops: sorry to voyman & the others owning this card, I must have forgotten to include [a lot ! 8O ] drivers !

Quote:
Note : If you want some hosting i can provide you some ....


that would be great ! :D
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@kernelOfTruth:
no big deal for the moment as I'm still waiting for my RAID controller to arrive (Promise EX16350, hopefully the drivers work as superbly as everyone says they are) to finish the system but I thought I could already get some time in to make everything else work beforehand (config etc.) - do you have an idea when we'll see r2 tough? or better yet, why the insmod of my selfmade module failed?
I'm not 100% but I was under the impression you used unmodified emission sources so I see no reason why I'd get an unknow symbol error :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@voyman:

perhaps you may have to change cflags?

Code:
CFLAGS="-Os -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

these are the ones I'm using for this livecd

the CD is ready, I'm still waiting for feedback if the r1000-lan-card works with this kernel (in case I can add another kernel)

Quote:
was under the impression you used unmodified emission sources


I do :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I wget yout first release and put it there ---> ftp://hephaistos.ath.cx/gentoo/
It's about 4Mo/s in upload so ... have fun :)

I will do it for each release and will keep the olders one
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, Jjeje007, I added your mirror to the list :)

I'm thinking of an updated version of the x86-branch ...

... if there really is demand for it ...

for this I have to know:

- does 2.6.18-mm1 work with all your hardware (those who are already have a running system)

- ...

Thanks in advance
for your feedback
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I also added your final release for the x86, moved the amd64 release into ~/gentoo/amd64 and the x86 into ~/gentoo/x86 .... i should have do that before so i hope you didn't link against the file but the directorie (~/gentoo) :roll:

See you and thanks for the work :)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernelOfTruth wrote:

perhaps you may have to change cflags?

Code:
CFLAGS="-Os -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"


I'll try that as soon as I get home, thanks! I hope this will let me insert it into the (running) livecd kernel so that I can finish my netinst and then start fiddling around with the kernel from there (I always fancy optimising as much as humanly possible even if it doesn't really change anything for the felt performance of the system) to see how much I can strip it down :twisted:

also, I may give the r1000 driver from the Realtek site a try to see if I can give you some feedback for r2 (I have a couple of systems that are listed on their site to try it out). Till then...

EDIT: changed cflags to reflect the above but unfortunatly to no avail (r8169: Unknown symbol page_to_pfn) - will try r1000 next. Maybe something noteworthy: I do get a warning during compilation about a possibly uninitilazied struct in the r8169 :roll:

EDIT 2: well the r1000 doesn't work either :( it even killed my system twice when trying to insert it... I'm thinking about installing x86 here :cry:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, ok, calm down :roll:

I try to release the new release yet today

Update:

this won't happen:
I just tried out the livecd it threw dozens of segfaults & errors,

don't know what went wrong, but r2 won't be released so soon ... (I have pretty much for work right now ...)

sorry, guys / girls ... :cry:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernelOfTruth wrote:
ok, ok, calm down

I am calm 8) Sorry, I wasn't trying to sound impatient, please take your time - that way I'll hopefuly have (working!) network support by the time the release is ready :wink:

On the investigative front, it would seem that setting
Code:
CONFIG_OUT_OF_LINE_PFN_TO_PAGE=y
breaks the r8169 module (the page_to_pfn symbol is no longer exported) - deactivating it upon compilation works for fresh kernels but crashes the module when inserting into the livecd kernel. By the way, this is all based on the emission sources where other people seem to have reported problems with the BadRAM patch (which touches the aforementioned symbol export as well) but reversing it also broke my insertion so I'm currently at a loss as to why that is... maybe someone more skilled than I can take a look at this?

EDIT: spelling... also, once again thanks to kernelOfTruth! Please take care of more important work first, I'm sure we can all wait a bit longer.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the second (testing) release of "small gentoo" for amd64 (r2) is out !
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernelOfTruth wrote:
the second (testing) release of "small gentoo" for amd64 (r2) is out !

:D :D :D

Will try it out asap and let you know if I get my cursed realtek card to work!
Thanks again and I hope you didn't delay any other work on (my) our account...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Mirror updated :D

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Thanks a lot :P

btw, I forgot:
Jjeje007, voyman, welcome to Gentoo :)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx kernelOfTruth
I hope i will get a lot of fun using gentoo (still using it for my dedicated server :D)

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