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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Asus M2N-E and Gentoo Reply with quote

Since this was not a completely obvious install... I have an Asus M2N-E motherboard with an AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ (AM2, not the energy-efficient version). Memory is a pair of Kingston 1GB ECC DDR2 533 memory modules (KVR533D2E4K2/2G). The base motherboard BIOS was 0203 from Jun 2006.

In order to boot the 2006.1 AMD64 minimal CD, you will need to use the following kernel option:

Code:
gentoo-nofb noapic


That will allow you to install to the onboard 6-port SATA controller as well as using the onboard gigabit LAN connection.

...

When you configure your kernel, you will need to select the NVIDIA "forcedeth" driver under the 10/100 network card device driver listing. (This driver does not show up under the gigabit adapter listings.) Both the forcedeth and the nv_sata options should already be selected in "make menuconfig" so you shouldn't have to do anything at all.

You will also need to use the "noapic" option in grub/lilo in order to get a bootable system. (At least with the older 0203 BIOS.)

...

Now, since that install, I've upgraded to the 0304 BIOS. That seems to work better and my kernel no longer requires the "noapic" option. The Xen test CD also works better with the newer BIOS.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought this Board in germany last week and I had no problems with it. When I am home I should look up the BIOS version to post it here (or is this possible from linux?).
I supsected problems also but gentoo minimal install 2006.1 worked like a charme also a vanilla grml-0.8 bootcd, both with no additional kernel parameters.
May be this becomes a m2n-e thread, what alsa module I need for onboard sound and what moules to start monitoring the board? :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I have my sound disabled (this is a headless server, not a desktop workstation) and I haven't gotten around to hooking up lm_sensors yet. The motherboard is *very* similar to some of the other Asus motherboards, looks a lot like my M2N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard (the SLI board is nForce 590 instead of nForce 570). So lm_sensors can probably use configs from any of the current ATX-sized nForce 5xx boards (both AM2 and 939 socket versions).

Might try setting up Xen on this within the next day or two. Then I plan on running both Win2000 and OpenSolaris 10 in DomUs (along with a Gentoo DomU). System seems very stable with the ECC chips. Performance is pretty good as well for the hard drives.

(To add to the weirdness of my install... the CD-ROM that I have hooked up won't be in the final system. It's simply hanging off of cables at the moment until I finish the install. The case I'm using only has 2 5.25" bays and those are taken up by a 3-bay SATA hotplug to make the hard drives easy to swap.)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I found on the Asus forums when I setup my M2N-E

For sata support you need to select(in menuconfig):
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI Device support [*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI disk support [*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI generic support [*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI low level drivers -> Serial ATA support[*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI low level drivers -> Nvidia SATA [*]
..thats all I think....

For onboard audio you need:

Device Drivers -> Sound ->Sound card support [*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> OSS Mixer [*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> OSS PCM [*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> Old ALSA API[*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> Old ALSA API[*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> PCI devices-> Intel HD
AUDIO [*]

For network card:
Device Drivers -> Network device support -> Ethernet 10 or 100Mbit -> EISA, VLB, PCI and onboard controllers -> Nvidia ethernet support
For Cool 'n' Quiet (dynamic cpu speed changing) you need:
software:
cpufreq-utils
powernowd
In kernel:
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> CPU Frequency Scaling [*]
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> ondemand policy scaling governor[*]
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow![*]
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> ACPI processor P-States[*]

Now the bad news:
-lm_sensors don't work (yet), so you won't get hardware monitoring (temperature, fans, etc...)
However lm_sensors authors are working on this (fixed version for M2N-E is already in svn i think) so we will see new, working release soon :D
Then you will need i2c_isa and it87 modules from kernel.



Hope that helps
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news on the sensor package.

Xen installed without a hitch as well with the new BIOS. So I'm working on setting up DomU's... (it's a complicated setup, 3 ethernet ports along with Smoothwall and NAT duties). I don't anticipate any problems there.

I see that the new Opteron 1xxx AM2 chips are for sale now. Dunno if it would've been better to use the dual-core Opterons with this system along with ECC memory or not.

One bad thing about the board is that the PCI slot between the PCIe slots will not work with a PCI/PCI-X card. The one motherboard chip (covered by the heatsink/heatpipe) gets in the way of the longer connectors on the PCI-X cards. A minor issue as I was able to use one of the other PCI slots for this Intel PRO/1000 MT PCI-X card. Still caused me a bit of fuss as I tried to figure out why the Intel card wasn't working (it wasn't seated in the PCI slot, which I had overlooked).

If the board had a 2nd PCIe x4 slot, it would be ideal.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So lm_sensors is still required as an additional package to monitor these board chips?
I did not use it for a long time and I thought meanwhile the stuff is in kernel.
But now I know better where to look in future.
I have time to wait for this monitoring stuff a while :-)

What a pity with yor PCI-X card!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

i've got that board and an AMD64 X2 4200+ too, but it's not really working. While compiling, i get a lot of errors like that:

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/libXp-1.0.0 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_unpack
ebuild.sh, line 712: Called die

my make.conf:
http://heinzelotto.kilu.de/make.conf.html (its .html because of my webspace)

Is there anything wrong with my make.conf? are there any cflags wrong or missing?


EDIT: it would be great if you (the owners of an m2n-e) could just post their working /etc/make.conf so i can maybe use parts of your configuration. thx in advance :)

I hope you can help me :)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly the same on my M2NVP-VM

but there are some more problems

sound works only if i didn't change any volume
doing a volume up or down under enlightenment - i've to stop alsasound and restart esound
the same under gnome with only alsasound stop start

the most worst bug
user - logout
gdm - all themes
no more mouse-picture - but mouse as funktion is still present.
a xdm stop from another mashine over ssh connection
and a restart didn't bring back the picture of the mousepointer
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well mine is rockstable. So I would not blame the hardware entirely.
The only thing to mention it, I read some reports the m2n-e is very... particular on the brand of memory modules used. May be you should take care of that. But this would yield into a Kernel Oops and a frozen system.

Heinzelotto, your make.conf looks quite sane to me but I would be careful with -msse3.
Is this known to be really sane?

Code:

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# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example

USE="\
aac aalib alsa -arts -bonobo avi dvd encode \
-esd -gtk -gnome2 -gtk2 -gnome jpeg -kde \
maildir vorbis mpeg -mysql opengl png -qt -qt3 \
-qtmt -ruby -svga xml2 xv zlib -tcltk sse ssl \
-slang -quicktime tetex -java dga -doc -lirc \
imap xinerama truetype -xfs \
-mozcalendar -mozaccess -mozinterfaceinfo -mozp3p -mozxmlterm \
moznoirc moznomail moznocompose mozsvg moznoroaming \
-xmms -cjk -foomaticdb -tcpd -berkdb \
-gdbm -Xaw3d menu -spell xvid -xprint \
nptlonly nptl -nls userlocales -f77 audiofile \
flac ogg mad \
nvidia xvmc theora -dvb -sdl -fortran \
libcaca -font-server minimal -debug icq \
-gimpprint -python -perl xosd -live -motif \
offensive vcd imagemagick glibc-omitfp bzip2 symlink -dri \
dlloader \
smime \
no-old-linux \
-bash-completion \
-tiff \
-pcre \
ao \
berkdb -ppds \
X \
"
CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O3 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,--sort-common -s"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse"
VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia"

GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/gentoo/ ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/ ftp://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/gentoo-mirror/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo "

SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
CLEAN_DELAY ="2"

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konsti wrote:
Well mine is rockstable. So I would not blame the hardware entirely.
The only thing to mention it, I read some reports the m2n-e is very... particular on the brand of memory modules used. May be you should take care of that. But this would yield into a Kernel Oops and a frozen system.


I think that's true of all of the AM2 boards at this point in time. These are the first revisions of the AMD chips to use DDR2 memory (memory controller on the CPU), so you have to be extra careful to only use tested memory modules. Or spend a few days running heavy-duty test software such as mprime/prime95 in memory-intensive mode to try and spot any timing issues.

Bad memory or flaky memory timings can show up in all sorts of odd ways. In order to find memory timing issues, you usually need to load the CPU at 100% as well as doing lots of memory accesses (and checking them) and maybe mix in disk I/O. (In the past I've seen SATA/PATA chips that, combined with a poorly written driver on Windows, would corrupt data under load. It's a rare occurance, but it goes down in my book as being possible for explaining certain classes of odd behavior.)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taristar wrote:
This is what I found on the Asus forums when I setup my M2N-E

For sata support you need to select(in menuconfig):
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI Device support [*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI disk support [*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI generic support [*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI low level drivers -> Serial ATA support[*]
Device Drivers - > SCSI device support -> SCSI low level drivers -> Nvidia SATA [*]
..thats all I think....

For onboard audio you need:

Device Drivers -> Sound ->Sound card support [*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> OSS Mixer [*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> OSS PCM [*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> Old ALSA API[*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> Old ALSA API[*]
Device Drivers -> Sound ->Advanced Linux Sound Support -> PCI devices-> Intel HD
AUDIO [*]

For network card:
Device Drivers -> Network device support -> Ethernet 10 or 100Mbit -> EISA, VLB, PCI and onboard controllers -> Nvidia ethernet support
For Cool 'n' Quiet (dynamic cpu speed changing) you need:
software:
cpufreq-utils
powernowd
In kernel:
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> CPU Frequency Scaling [*]
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> ondemand policy scaling governor[*]
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow![*]
Power management options -> CPU Frequency Scaling -> ACPI processor P-States[*]

Now the bad news:
-lm_sensors don't work (yet), so you won't get hardware monitoring (temperature, fans, etc...)
However lm_sensors authors are working on this (fixed version for M2N-E is already in svn i think) so we will see new, working release soon :D
Then you will need i2c_isa and it87 modules from kernel.



Hope that helps


Excellent!!

Bought my M2N-E also with a 4200+ and 512MB kingston ram, 250GB WD SATA drive and a 6600GT this week, under windows this is a really fast system, and i'm really hoping that compiling gentoo, will make it even faster.

However, much like others here, i have had some problems.

I am not a complete Linux noob - but as good as, i ran SuSE 9.1-9.3 and then gave up on it following a HDD failure and a new job as a windows admin, but time alas has returned me to want to get my head round linux again, and this post is the answer i was looking for.


Ok, so i followed the Gentoo handbook, and after numerous crashes and failure to boot into the 2006.1 CD, i got the 2006.0 CD and booted into it fine. I currently have a working Grub with XP 32bit and Vista 64Bit booting perfectly, and a good base install of gentoo - from the 2006.0 packages CD.

Now here's where my problems lie:

1. I have no network, using DHCP (i did emerge dhcpcd) or by assigning a static IP - i hope the above post will help, but i fear it means starting again with the 2006.1 CD

2. With no network, i get a lot of funny errors when trying to emerge basic packages from the CD. CD is mounted to /mnt/dvdrw and i did a export PKGDIR="/mnt/dvdrw" and can list the packages etc etc, but it says unable to find ebuils to satisfy xxx (where xxx is pretty much anythign i put in)

3. I did manage to install X, when i type startx i get a nice CTRL-ALT-F& term from which i canlaunch xterms and the like, but ideally i'm looking for a full KDE install.

SO:- emerge --usepkgonly kde

in my understanding should install the prebuilt binaries form the package CD, but alas, it does not, it says unable to find ebuilds to satisfy kde.

I guess i have two options... get the network working to use the websites it cannot resolve to find dependencies, or work out a way of disabling looking for those other sources.

Either would be of great help now, and if there is a way of building the initial drivers into the kernel so i can get networking up and running from the outset, i'd be greatly appreciative.



And thanks in advance for those who are prepared to spend a bit of time mulling this over.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

artbody wrote:
Nearly the same on my M2NVP-VM

but there are some more problems

sound works only if i didn't change any volume
doing a volume up or down under enlightenment - i've to stop alsasound and restart esound
the same under gnome with only alsasound stop start


Try snd-hda-intel.model=3stack as kernel parameter or just model=3stack as module parameter.

@all

2.6.19-rc1 will probably have needed updated sensors drivers, esp the k8temp sensor is neat, as it reads out cpu core temps directly from the chip. Or patch your kernel, take a look at lm_sensors ml.

To have a stable system, you prabably have to hack your kernel and patch out acpi_skip_timer_override for your board. Take a look here.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

update:

updating my bios to 0402 (beta bios on asus' website) fixed all my problems, and i managed to get networking right off the live cd, with that i could merge the right drivers and recompile my kernel and kde - which is running now - i look forward to getting home to a near complete system =)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: M2N-E and gentoo Reply with quote

I had some problems installing gentoo on M2N-E and 4200+ CPU, 2x1024M Kingston 667MHz dual channel mem. After tests it became clear that I got wrong memory modules for that board - they are stable only at 400MHz, and after raising RAM voltage +0.1V at 533MHz. With these settings system quite heavily used runs OK for weeks. It is not "dual-channel" problem because the same instabilities show with single module inserted as well.
It's interesting that same configuration worked OK in Windows XP Pro SP1 and SP2 at 667MHz.
I recently updated BIOS to the newest available, and it did not help - still 533MHz...

Sound driver is alsa: snd_hda_intel, video is GeForce6600 and works OK, network handled by forcedeth driver - I only tested this at 100Mbit/s and works good.

btw - for other reasons I chose i686 architecture, not 64bit.

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- small addition - thanks to this forum I tried the beta bios (0402) and it looks OK at 667 memory clock now.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's interesting that same configuration worked OK in Windows XP Pro SP1 and SP2 at 667MHz.


Unless you ran the Prime95 torture test for 48hours or longer, I wouldn't bet that it worked fully. (I have a very strict standard after spending 6 months of trying to track down random blue screens that was caused by flaky memory timings. Only Prime95 was able to indicate that there was an error, because other programs didn't stress the CPU and RAM at the same time.)

BTW, I setup another one of these boards this week. However, I cheated a bit and simply swiped the secondary RAID mirror disk out of my previous machine. Again, running 4GB of Kingston ECC RAM. I did update to the 0304 BIOS as a preventative measure.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hihi, I am running quite cheap Aenon (~low-cost Infineon) on my Asus M2NPV-VM board. 2x 1GB in dual channel at 666MHz and no Probs.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone having issues where an M2N-E motherboard will not power back on after a power-outage automatically, even though I have that option set in the BIOS (Power -> APM Configuration -> Restore Power after AC Loss)?

Two of my 3 M2N-E motherboards will power back on automatically after a power outage, but I've got one unit that is being difficult. Trying to decide whether I need to reset the BIOS to factory defaults and re-configure it or whether I'm running into some other issue.
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I Happened to purchase M2N-MX mobo recently, m havin the same problem with my LAN device. Can anyone tell me how to go about installing the forcedeth Nvidia driver :o
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found that forcedeth didn't load wiht the 2006.0 cd, but if you boot into the 2006.1 Live CD, you get into a nice looking gnome desktop, from which you can install gentoo either by gui, or by xterm.

in this instance, the forcedeth drivers are installed, and you can even fire up firefox straight from this live environment to grab any other files you might need (and do a full install from the gento portage tree)


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Is lm_sensors working for this board now? I tried to get this package working awhile ago and I could not detect the system monitoring chip. Does anybody have lm_sensors working on their M2N-E motherboards?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: ALSA on ASUS M2NPV-VM Reply with quote

artbody wrote:
Nearly the same on my M2NVP-VM

but there are some more problems

sound works only if i didn't change any volume
doing a volume up or down under enlightenment - i've to stop alsasound and restart esound
the same under gnome with only alsasound stop start
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Hi artbody,
for the ALSA issues, you could look at my post in another thread. I've the same mainboard and could solve this problem.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-512733.html#3704439

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I'm setting up another one of these as a headless server. It has (3) SATA drives, no CD-ROM, and 4GB of ECC along with (2) dual-NIC Intel PRO/1000 PCI+PCIe cards. The video card is a PCIe GeForce 6200 LE (fanless).

With the newer BIOS and the better video card, I don't have to use either the "-nofb" kernel or the "noapic" option. My first install was using an old old OLD PCI video card that I had laying around instead of using the PCIe x16 video slot.

It is possible to attach a USB CD-ROM to this motherboard and use that as the boot device.

Network on the motherboard is not auto-detected by the Gentoo AMD64 2006.1 Minimal CD for me. So I have to run "net-setup eth0" after the boot before I can start up SSHD and do the install remotely. Oddly enough, the DHCP option works the second time around so I suspect that the Gentoo boot CD is merely getting confused by the multitude of ethN devices in the machine.

Other then not having enough PCIe lanes for my tastes, this is becoming a favorite motherboard for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest looking for a bios update. The new one for my Asus board has the bios option to enable HPET (for Windows Vista certification) - and HPET saves some troubles in Linux...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
i've got a m2n-E as well
im having trouble with the mic ... i can hear myself through the mic perfectly but when i use krec or skype or ekiga the sound is not captured.. i played with kmix, alsamixer, and cant get it to work,,, but i managed to get it working very softly once .. on ubuntu i guess... does anybody have the same problem? or can somebody show the right mixer settings ?

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hi again
i started this thread here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3743223.html#3743223 but couldnt get any help so came here and closed that one.
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