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fabokzs n00b
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: Re: bluetooth |
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Hi,
[quote="ASIO_BOB"]
I have a Dell inspiron 6400, ACPI works great. Everythying works, video (intel though), wireless (ipw3945), bluetooth, card reader etc... highly recommended.[/quote]
Can you tell me please, how could you make the bluetooth work? I searched the net but there was no usable description. Or is it trivial?
Regards,
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john-boro Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 130
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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I use a macbook pro core duo (not core 2) and it works very well. I use debian on it because a few things were just easier to get working in my experience. However:
Suspend to disk works mostly. Suspend to Ram is notoriously hard to get working. The 2.6.17 kernel seems to do well here but as far as I know there doesn't seem to be a repeatable, reliable way in which people have been able to get s2ram working. I certainly can't.
Battery life isn't *that* great compared to with OS X. You can still get over two hours if you use powersaving options though.
Mbpeventd (or pommed), a daemon that handles backlight adjustment, keyboard light, etc is only available in a really usable form for debian. Some people have been trying to compile it on gentoo without much success as far as I know. Of course this doesn't matter if you're not getting the pro version.
Ati x1600 graphics in the pro are not great with linux. All the important stuff works, but they won't do aiglx etc. Again, the integrated graphics on the non-pro fares better here.
Despite these few things, I love mine and am happy to use linux on it all the time because:
OS X is a great second OS to have
Wireless, fancy backlights, eject keys, remote control, power scaling, graphics card power adjustment (without xgl), sound all work. Bluetooth works too I think but I don't use it. I'm trying to think of other stuff that works, but basically everything works so well that I can't think of anything that stands out. Since I use mine at university as basically a desktop replacement, the lack of suspend to ram and lower battery life doesn't affect me.
It's very, very fast.
So, although the mb and mbp are both great linux machines, they are not perfect. Having said that, just about everything I can think of does work, enough that I have no qualms about using linux on my mbp all the time. As I said in another thread, the fact that they are such specialised pieces of hardware (ie you know exactly what's in one) makes it easier for the community to come up with guides and instructions for running linux on them. I've no doubt this will continue.
But, if you want just great functionality then it's hard to recommend the macbooks over a thinkpad. To be honest, if I had known that thinkpads worked so well, and if I had known that I wouldn't fall in love with and constantly use OS X, I would probably have got a thinkpad. Or maybe I wouldn't...
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styrmis n00b
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Sachankara wrote: | Many HP (HP/Compaq) NX/NC laptops have been Linux certified by Novell and Redhat (the hardware just works). I'd recommend them beside recommending the Lenovo Thinkpads.
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I own a HP nx6325 which is a very nice laptop except for the dangerous ACPI implementation. I need to run this laptop with ACPI off most of the time, as it has serious thermal issues. This laptop claims to have Linux certification, but booting up any normal distribution could result in the early death of the laptop given that ACPI is on by default. |
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Sachankara l33t
Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 696 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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styrmis wrote: | Sachankara wrote: | Many HP (HP/Compaq) NX/NC laptops have been Linux certified by Novell and Redhat (the hardware just works). I'd recommend them beside recommending the Lenovo Thinkpads.
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I own a HP nx6325 which is a very nice laptop except for the dangerous ACPI implementation. I need to run this laptop with ACPI off most of the time, as it has serious thermal issues. This laptop claims to have Linux certification, but booting up any normal distribution could result in the early death of the laptop given that ACPI is on by default. | Yes, the heat pipe is a bit "underdeveloped", but I personally don't have any problems with ACPI/heat. It throttles when needed. The only annoying thing is the fact that it's very sensitive to load - just scrolling a web page will get the fan spinning when running on batteries.
Maybe your model with an AMD processor is worse than mine with an Intel processor? The AMD processors do heat up a lot faster.
The fact that HP NX6xxx is almost fully serviceable by the user is a very good thing if you want to upgrade your laptop in the future. Memory, hard disk and mini-PCI can be replaced from the bottom of the computer, the rest (primary memory, cpu, etc) can be changed by removing the keyboard. Very "neat" laptop design. _________________ Gentoo Hardened Linux 2.6.21 + svorak (Swedish dvorak) |
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cgmd Veteran
Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 1585 Location: Louisiana
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: What kind of laptop do gentoo users love? |
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My Thinkpad with gentoo has finally reached the end of the line. Before I replace it, though, I'm curious about other's experience buying a new laptop to run gentoo. My main restriction is that it be fairly small, and easy for travel...
Anyone have a gentoo laptop that they love, and would like to mention??
Thanks! _________________ "Primum non nocere" ---Galen |
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geforce l33t
Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 653 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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I love my new Dell laptop, but make sure your network (wifi) card has a driver and is supported (i'm not sure but the new Draft-N might not be).
Phil |
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jpmayer87 n00b
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Troy, NY
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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I'd say stick with the Thinkpads.
My T43p is fully supported, and I believe the newer ones are as well.
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beatryder Veteran
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 1138
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
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I have been through Two Dell latitudes now, and as long as you choose one with Intel wifi you should be ok.
This may sound strange, but I would also recommend the Intel graphics as well, you can get native resolution framebuffer console and suspend to ram working as well. _________________ Dont make it idiot proof, make it work.
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mjrosenb Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 115 Location: CMU
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Both me and my roommate have gotten everything working on our thinkpads. mine is a z60m ($900), and his is a t43. if you want a small laptop, you can get an x series. _________________ I'll be mjrosenb on #${COMPUTER_RELATED_SUBJECT}
1x i386 laptop w/ Gentoo
4x i386 desktop w/ Gentoo
2x dual proc i386 w/dragonfly bsd
1x x86-64 desktop w/ Gentoo
1x i386 desktop w/ FreeBSD
1x alpha workstation w/ Gentoo
looking for more |
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John R. Graham Administrator
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 10589 Location: Somewhere over Atlanta, Georgia
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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ThinkPad is very well supported. On my T60, I've got everything working except the fingerprint reader.
- John |
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jpmayer87 n00b
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Troy, NY
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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john_r_graham wrote: | ThinkPad is very well supported. On my T60, I've got everything working except the fingerprint reader.
- John |
Thinkfinger. it's in portage. |
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Ehnvis Guru
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 305 Location: /dev/random
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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I really love my HP NC4010, 12" screen (the rest is in my sig). With cpupw installed i get 3 hours battery time on the original battery. _________________ HP NC 4010, Pentium-M 725 1.6GHz w/ 1Gb RAM, 60Gb Hitachi Travelstar.
Running Gentoo-2.6.21-r4 (again as 2.6.22 kernels hogs CPU), all but SD reader works fine. |
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John R. Graham Administrator
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 10589 Location: Somewhere over Atlanta, Georgia
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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jpmayer87 wrote: | Thinkfinger. it's in portage. | Thanks!
- John |
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cgmd Veteran
Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 1585 Location: Louisiana
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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mjrosenb wrote: Code: | you can get an x series. |
That product looks very good, from the standpoint of size...
...but it appears to require a docking station to access an optical drive. Is that correct?
Thanks! _________________ "Primum non nocere" ---Galen |
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pdo59 n00b
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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My HP dv9283ea is enough portable , I installed gentoo AMD64 (with a lot of ~amd64 packages) and I'm very happy of the results.
Unfortunately the integrated webcam, Ricoh 1.3MP (05ca:1810) is not still working but, i'm sure, it'll work ! |
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Veldrin Veteran
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 1945 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | ...but it appears to require a docking station to access an optical drive. Is that correct? |
True, but I would go for an external optical drive. (I don't really need the optical drive in my notebook, and if I do, the it is for some serious system manipulation which requires a liveCD)
I am currently running an Acer TM8000. I got a lot of thing running, but a few are still missing (multi card reader, irda). For a new notebook look at IBM/Lenovo or at HP. Both seem to have their series linux certified.
Cheers
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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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damienmoody n00b
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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My Gateway laptop works well with Gentoo - EXCEPT the integrated Intel video chipset. I have framebuffer working, but I still have not figured out how to get an X resolution over 800x600. So my advice is to avoid any laptop with an Intel 855GM integrated chipset. |
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Airhardt n00b
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Erlangen, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I am running Gentoo on a ThinkPad T60 with a Core 2 Duo and an Intel graphics chipset (945GM).
I haven't got all of its gimmicks going yet (namely HDAPS and the fingerprint reader, as the packages are still masked). But all the basic things work really well and almost out-of-the-box: Ethernet, WLAN, CPU frequency scaling, sound, graphics acceleration, UltraNav, ...
There are a few things I had to keep in mind when installing Gentoo, but I guess that is true for about any computer.
In my opinion, the greatest advantage of a ThinkPad - apart from its superior hardware quality - is its popularity among "professional" users, which means finding help should be very easy (first starting point: http://thinkwiki.org). |
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twinkle n00b
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Israel
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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My T60 has an AR5418 wifi which I haven't been able to use yet, though I read that the latest madwifi should work.
But it doesn't have an S-VIDEO on the laptop itself which is a disappointment for me. Alos, DVI is only available on the advanced docking station which costs $350.
The build quality also feels poorer than T43. |
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Bones McCracker Veteran
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1611 Location: U.S.A.
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Squall_Liu n00b
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I use Gentoo on my ThinkPad T43 ,
and it is supported very well
But I don't use the modern on it |
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latch.r n00b
Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Ulm, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Veldrin wrote: | Quote: | ...but it appears to require a docking station to access an optical drive. Is that correct? |
True, but I would go for an external optical drive. |
I've just bought a ThinkPad x60s, and done exactly this. The laptop is beautifully neat (and small), and the external optical drive works well and is bootable.
Even though I've had it less than a week, I've already noticed how GOOD the ThinkPad keyboard is. I agree with all of the reviews I found that claimed ThinkPads have the best keyboards of any laptop.
ThinkPads have 3 buttons - which is perfect for GNU/Linux - while most other brands have only two (or even one!). My battery life seems exceptional (using laptop-mode). I agree with Airhardt that resources such as thinkwiki.org can make a difference - I used this wiki as part of my research before even buying my ThinkPad.
I would certainly recommend a ThinkPad laptop. |
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madisonicus Veteran
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I love my Panasonic Toughbook W5. Three lbs and 8+ hrs of battery life with a dvdrw and wifi are perfect for my needs for now.
I hear good things about the T60 too, of course. _________________ Please add [SOLVED] to your message title if you feel that your question has been answered.
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pilla Bodhisattva
Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 7729 Location: Underworld
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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I had a T23 and now I own a T60. Very well built, very good linux support. You can't go wrong with them. _________________ "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." -- Calvin |
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