Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
Need to chat about notebook selection Gentooers
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next  
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Gentoo Chat
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
fabokzs
n00b
n00b


Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: bluetooth Reply with quote

Hi,

[quote="ASIO_BOB"]
I have a Dell inspiron 6400, ACPI works great. Everythying works, video (intel though), wireless (ipw3945), bluetooth, card reader etc... highly recommended.[/quote]
Can you tell me please, how could you make the bluetooth work? I searched the net but there was no usable description. Or is it trivial?

Regards,
Zsolt
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
john-boro
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 130

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a macbook pro core duo (not core 2) and it works very well. I use debian on it because a few things were just easier to get working in my experience. However:

Suspend to disk works mostly. Suspend to Ram is notoriously hard to get working. The 2.6.17 kernel seems to do well here but as far as I know there doesn't seem to be a repeatable, reliable way in which people have been able to get s2ram working. I certainly can't.
Battery life isn't *that* great compared to with OS X. You can still get over two hours if you use powersaving options though.
Mbpeventd (or pommed), a daemon that handles backlight adjustment, keyboard light, etc is only available in a really usable form for debian. Some people have been trying to compile it on gentoo without much success as far as I know. Of course this doesn't matter if you're not getting the pro version.
Ati x1600 graphics in the pro are not great with linux. All the important stuff works, but they won't do aiglx etc. Again, the integrated graphics on the non-pro fares better here.

Despite these few things, I love mine and am happy to use linux on it all the time because:
OS X is a great second OS to have
Wireless, fancy backlights, eject keys, remote control, power scaling, graphics card power adjustment (without xgl), sound all work. Bluetooth works too I think but I don't use it. I'm trying to think of other stuff that works, but basically everything works so well that I can't think of anything that stands out. Since I use mine at university as basically a desktop replacement, the lack of suspend to ram and lower battery life doesn't affect me.

It's very, very fast.

So, although the mb and mbp are both great linux machines, they are not perfect. Having said that, just about everything I can think of does work, enough that I have no qualms about using linux on my mbp all the time. As I said in another thread, the fact that they are such specialised pieces of hardware (ie you know exactly what's in one) makes it easier for the community to come up with guides and instructions for running linux on them. I've no doubt this will continue.

But, if you want just great functionality then it's hard to recommend the macbooks over a thinkpad. To be honest, if I had known that thinkpads worked so well, and if I had known that I wouldn't fall in love with and constantly use OS X, I would probably have got a thinkpad. Or maybe I wouldn't... :wink:


john
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
styrmis
n00b
n00b


Joined: 21 Jan 2006
Posts: 48

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sachankara wrote:
Many HP (HP/Compaq) NX/NC laptops have been Linux certified by Novell and Redhat (the hardware just works). I'd recommend them beside recommending the Lenovo Thinkpads.


I own a HP nx6325 which is a very nice laptop except for the dangerous ACPI implementation. I need to run this laptop with ACPI off most of the time, as it has serious thermal issues. This laptop claims to have Linux certification, but booting up any normal distribution could result in the early death of the laptop given that ACPI is on by default.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sachankara
l33t
l33t


Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Posts: 696
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

styrmis wrote:
Sachankara wrote:
Many HP (HP/Compaq) NX/NC laptops have been Linux certified by Novell and Redhat (the hardware just works). I'd recommend them beside recommending the Lenovo Thinkpads.


I own a HP nx6325 which is a very nice laptop except for the dangerous ACPI implementation. I need to run this laptop with ACPI off most of the time, as it has serious thermal issues. This laptop claims to have Linux certification, but booting up any normal distribution could result in the early death of the laptop given that ACPI is on by default.
Yes, the heat pipe is a bit "underdeveloped", but I personally don't have any problems with ACPI/heat. It throttles when needed. The only annoying thing is the fact that it's very sensitive to load - just scrolling a web page will get the fan spinning when running on batteries.

Maybe your model with an AMD processor is worse than mine with an Intel processor? The AMD processors do heat up a lot faster.

The fact that HP NX6xxx is almost fully serviceable by the user is a very good thing if you want to upgrade your laptop in the future. Memory, hard disk and mini-PCI can be replaced from the bottom of the computer, the rest (primary memory, cpu, etc) can be changed by removing the keyboard. Very "neat" laptop design.
_________________
Gentoo Hardened Linux 2.6.21 + svorak (Swedish dvorak)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cgmd
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Posts: 1585
Location: Louisiana

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: What kind of laptop do gentoo users love? Reply with quote

My Thinkpad with gentoo has finally reached the end of the line. Before I replace it, though, I'm curious about other's experience buying a new laptop to run gentoo. My main restriction is that it be fairly small, and easy for travel...

Anyone have a gentoo laptop that they love, and would like to mention?? :)

Thanks!
_________________
"Primum non nocere" ---Galen
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
geforce
l33t
l33t


Joined: 29 Dec 2003
Posts: 653
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my new Dell laptop, but make sure your network (wifi) card has a driver and is supported (i'm not sure but the new Draft-N might not be).


Phil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jpmayer87
n00b
n00b


Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 51
Location: Troy, NY

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say stick with the Thinkpads.

My T43p is fully supported, and I believe the newer ones are as well.

JP
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
beatryder
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 08 Apr 2005
Posts: 1138

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been through Two Dell latitudes now, and as long as you choose one with Intel wifi you should be ok.
This may sound strange, but I would also recommend the Intel graphics as well, you can get native resolution framebuffer console and suspend to ram working as well.
_________________
Dont make it idiot proof, make it work.
Neucode.org
<suppressed key>
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mjrosenb
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 12 Jun 2006
Posts: 115
Location: CMU

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both me and my roommate have gotten everything working on our thinkpads. mine is a z60m ($900), and his is a t43. if you want a small laptop, you can get an x series.
_________________
I'll be mjrosenb on #${COMPUTER_RELATED_SUBJECT}
1x i386 laptop w/ Gentoo
4x i386 desktop w/ Gentoo
2x dual proc i386 w/dragonfly bsd
1x x86-64 desktop w/ Gentoo
1x i386 desktop w/ FreeBSD
1x alpha workstation w/ Gentoo
looking for more
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John R. Graham
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 7718
Location: Somewhere over Atlanta, Georgia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThinkPad is very well supported. On my T60, I've got everything working except the fingerprint reader.

- John
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jpmayer87
n00b
n00b


Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 51
Location: Troy, NY

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john_r_graham wrote:
ThinkPad is very well supported. On my T60, I've got everything working except the fingerprint reader.

- John


Thinkfinger. it's in portage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ehnvis
Guru
Guru


Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Posts: 305
Location: /dev/random

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really love my HP NC4010, 12" screen (the rest is in my sig). With cpupw installed i get 3 hours battery time on the original battery.
_________________
HP NC 4010, Pentium-M 725 1.6GHz w/ 1Gb RAM, 60Gb Hitachi Travelstar.
Running Gentoo-2.6.21-r4 (again as 2.6.22 kernels hogs CPU), all but SD reader works fine.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John R. Graham
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 7718
Location: Somewhere over Atlanta, Georgia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpmayer87 wrote:
Thinkfinger. it's in portage.
Thanks!

- John
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cgmd
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Posts: 1585
Location: Louisiana

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjrosenb wrote:
Code:
you can get an x series.

That product looks very good, from the standpoint of size...

...but it appears to require a docking station to access an optical drive. Is that correct?

Thanks!
_________________
"Primum non nocere" ---Galen
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pdo59
n00b
n00b


Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My HP dv9283ea is enough portable :?, I installed gentoo AMD64 (with a lot of ~amd64 packages) and I'm very happy of the results.
Unfortunately the integrated webcam, Ricoh 1.3MP (05ca:1810) is not still working but, i'm sure, it'll work !
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Veldrin
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 1942
Location: Zurich, Switzerland

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
...but it appears to require a docking station to access an optical drive. Is that correct?

True, but I would go for an external optical drive. (I don't really need the optical drive in my notebook, and if I do, the it is for some serious system manipulation which requires a liveCD)

I am currently running an Acer TM8000. I got a lot of thing running, but a few are still missing (multi card reader, irda). For a new notebook look at IBM/Lenovo or at HP. Both seem to have their series linux certified.

Cheers
V.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Jaglover
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 4635
Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://mcelrath.org/laptops.html
_________________
Please learn how to denote units correctly!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
damienmoody
n00b
n00b


Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Posts: 73

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Gateway laptop works well with Gentoo - EXCEPT the integrated Intel video chipset. I have framebuffer working, but I still have not figured out how to get an X resolution over 800x600. So my advice is to avoid any laptop with an Intel 855GM integrated chipset.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Airhardt
n00b
n00b


Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 46
Location: Erlangen, Germany

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am running Gentoo on a ThinkPad T60 with a Core 2 Duo and an Intel graphics chipset (945GM).
I haven't got all of its gimmicks going yet (namely HDAPS and the fingerprint reader, as the packages are still masked). But all the basic things work really well and almost out-of-the-box: Ethernet, WLAN, CPU frequency scaling, sound, graphics acceleration, UltraNav, ... :-)
There are a few things I had to keep in mind when installing Gentoo, but I guess that is true for about any computer.

In my opinion, the greatest advantage of a ThinkPad - apart from its superior hardware quality - is its popularity among "professional" users, which means finding help should be very easy (first starting point: http://thinkwiki.org).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
twinkle
n00b
n00b


Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Posts: 12
Location: Israel

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My T60 has an AR5418 wifi which I haven't been able to use yet, though I read that the latest madwifi should work.
But it doesn't have an S-VIDEO on the laptop itself which is a disappointment for me. Alos, DVI is only available on the advanced docking station which costs $350.
The build quality also feels poorer than T43.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bones McCracker
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1564
Location: U.S.A.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Built for Linux:

http://system76.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Squall_Liu
n00b
n00b


Joined: 27 Mar 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Gentoo on my ThinkPad T43 ,
and it is supported very well :lol:

But I don't use the modern on it
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
latch.r
n00b
n00b


Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 32
Location: Canberra, ACT, Australia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Veldrin wrote:
Quote:
...but it appears to require a docking station to access an optical drive. Is that correct?

True, but I would go for an external optical drive.


I've just bought a ThinkPad x60s, and done exactly this. The laptop is beautifully neat (and small), and the external optical drive works well and is bootable.

Even though I've had it less than a week, I've already noticed how GOOD the ThinkPad keyboard is. I agree with all of the reviews I found that claimed ThinkPads have the best keyboards of any laptop.

ThinkPads have 3 buttons - which is perfect for GNU/Linux - while most other brands have only two (or even one!). My battery life seems exceptional (using laptop-mode). I agree with Airhardt that resources such as thinkwiki.org can make a difference - I used this wiki as part of my research before even buying my ThinkPad.

I would certainly recommend a ThinkPad laptop.
_________________
Computers are like submarines; when you open Windows they become ineffective.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
madisonicus
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 1130

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I love my Panasonic Toughbook W5. Three lbs and 8+ hrs of battery life with a dvdrw and wifi are perfect for my needs for now.

I hear good things about the T60 too, of course.
_________________
Please add [SOLVED] to your message title if you feel that your question has been answered.
------
Intel Q9300 Core2 Quad * Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R
Samsung x360
AMD64 x2 4200+ * TF7050-M2 * HTPC
ZOTAC ION A-U Mini-ITX * HTPC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pilla
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 07 Aug 2002
Posts: 7214
Location: Pelotas, BR

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a T23 and now I own a T60. Very well built, very good linux support. You can't go wrong with them.
_________________
"I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." -- Calvin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Gentoo Chat All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum