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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 5:45 am    Post subject: desktop style question Reply with quote

I know this is totally basic for the pros, but I was wondering how to get one of those really cool desktops with transparent screens. I have seen them in screenshots of slackware and various other distros but I have never looked into how to do it. I am emerging kde right now and would like to set it up so I have that look when I get it going.

I can't even seem to find a link right now to show what I mean, but surely someone will post one since I have noticed people using them. I usually see a window with cli being displayed on that desktop too ( presume it is cli since that is what it looks like, but it could be something else).

OK, found a link on someone's signature, I hope Lotusvale doesn't mind:

http://studentweb.mcmaster.ca/~linakswk/screen3.jpg
and here:
http://studentweb.mcmaster.ca/~linakswk/screenshot17.jpg

that's what I mean by the transparent effect.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

those are different terminal emulators people are running. You have a wide variety: aterm, eterm, gnome-terminal.. Right now I'm using Eterm, but getting it to look just right is kind of a pain. But check out how minimal I made it!

[img:68db988bb2]http://users.mcleodusa.net/b/barnard.glenna/tmp/desktop.jpeg[/img:68db988bb2]

The way to get the terminals transparent varies per each one. If you want something very simple to set up transparency for, gnome-terminal is probably the way to go. Also you might want to check out root-tail.[/img]
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool, thanks for the info!

dumb question but can gnome-term be installed and used without having gnome installed?
I only plan to install kde.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my friend did this long time ago i still use it

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
foreach $argnum (0 .. $#ARGV) { $argu="$argu $ARGV[$argnum]"; }
$red = int( rand( 255 ) );
$green = int( rand( 255 ) );
$blue = int( rand( 255 ) );
$options = "--cmod-red $red --cmod-green $green --cmod-blue $blue --cmod
120";
exec( "Eterm $options --trans $argu &" )

i have made new file in /usr/bin called eterm

it put random transparent color everytime you open eterm

example http://silma.leka.net/kuvat/joujoujou.png
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably not without at least installing the gnome libs, i would look into other terminals such as aterm or eterm (those two seem to be the most popular ones)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you only plan on installing KDE then use konsole. Setting up the transparency can be done via the right-click menu:

[img:b084d0f7a5]http://www.deskmod.com/files/ssnix/screenshots/32343.gif[/img:b084d0f7a5]
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dumb question but can gnome-term be installed and used without having gnome installed?
I only plan to install kde.


Not really a dumb question at all. emerge -p gnome-terminal ought to tell you the answer to that question :). KDE should come with it's own console too which supports transparency. I know they used to have one called Konsole back when I used KDE, I don't know anymore.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I use red hat 7.3 on my main box and it has 'konsole' on it for the term

Damn! It was there the whole time. Duhhh, lol.

I opened up Konsole and looked under settings and there it was - settings-schema-transparent konsole.

Thanks for the heads up!

Not one of my brighter moments, lol.

Ooops, I just scrolled up and saw the example too, thanks a lot guys!

I am emerging kde 3.1 on my gentoo box so I figure the default term will be Konsole so I can have everything set up that way.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yowwww wrote:
I am emerging kde 3.1 on my gentoo box so I figure the default term will be Konsole so I can have everything set up that way.


Yup, the shot I posted was using 3.1
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi !

The only wm I know of which can do transparent menus and window titles is x11-wm/waimea.

here's a shot of my desktop :
The console is aterm, it's somehow more leightweight than Eterm so I prefer it ;)

[img:938bbb953c]http://jojo.j-ws.de/shot.jpg[/img:938bbb953c]
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually kde can do transparent menus too, you just have to change the themes and settings under look n feel

If memory serves correctly, there are only 3 pre-installed themes that allow for that:
Kermamik
kde default
and .Net

preferences-look n feel-style
then you have to employ the transpareny effect in the menus
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