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mikepb78
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 Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:20 pm Post subject: Total number of packages available: 4000 |
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lol where is your message ?
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solatis
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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I think he means to say that we've breached the 4000 line?
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Ari Rahikkala
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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We still have a long way to more than 8710 packages, though...
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nrl
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| www.debian.org wrote: |
Debian GNU/Linux provides more than a pure OS: it comes with more than 8710 packages, precompiled software bundled up in a nice format for easy installation on your machine.
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Keep up the good work we are hot on their tail  |
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| nrl wrote: | | www.debian.org wrote: |
Debian GNU/Linux provides more than a pure OS: it comes with more than 8710 packages, precompiled software bundled up in a nice format for easy installation on your machine.
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Keep up the good work we are hot on their tail |
It's not a race.... but indeed . And also note that Gentoo is much more young.
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solatis
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Sounds like it's time for me to learn more about making your own ebuiilds... i think i know quite a lot of packages that deserve an ebuild
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Ari Rahikkala
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Then again, it's not like all those packages are legitimate pieces of software. There's more than a few pseudo-packages meant for upgrading, task packages, and so on there. But there's also software which is rather hard to get anywhere outside Debian. For example, Koules, one of the more addictive and original games I've played in my life, doesn't even compile on a box with modern libraries without some hacking due to being so old. This project is bound to have trouble with that sort of stuff...
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nrl
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| bsolar wrote: | | nrl wrote: | | www.debian.org wrote: |
Debian GNU/Linux provides more than a pure OS: it comes with more than 8710 packages, precompiled software bundled up in a nice format for easy installation on your machine.
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Keep up the good work we are hot on their tail |
It's not a race.... but indeed . And also note that Gentoo is much more young. |
Also note in debian mozilla for instance is made up of seperate packages (as far as I remember) one for the browser, one for mail and news, one for chat, one for the personal security manager, several for all the different locales and one for the composer. In Gentoo it is one ebuild and you can change your USE flags to get what you want for instance
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is what I use. So basically this inflates Debians package count and thus we can't really compare the two. Although it will be nice to overtake them  .
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solatis
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Exactly... another example is all the kernel flavors they have. 1 package for gentoo, dozens of packages for debian...
Is this going to be a new drawback on a distribution based on source? Less impressive numbers?
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| solatis wrote: | Exactly... another example is all the kernel flavors they have. 1 package for gentoo, dozens of packages for debian...
Is this going to be a new drawback on a distribution based on source? Less impressive numbers? |
Yea I mean when is Gentoo going to catch up and reach version 9  . |
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Ari Rahikkala
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| solatis wrote: | | Exactly... another example is all the kernel flavors they have. 1 package for gentoo, dozens of packages for debian... |
/usr/portage/sys-kernel would beg to digress...
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solatis
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| Ari Rahikkala wrote: | | /usr/portage/sys-kernel would beg to digress... |
<silence> ... 
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| nrl wrote: | Also note in debian mozilla for instance is made up of seperate packages (as far as I remember) one for the browser, one for mail and news, one for chat, one for the personal security manager, several for all the different locales and one for the composer. In Gentoo it is one ebuild and you can change your USE flags to get what you want for instance
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USE="moznoirc moznomail moznocompose"
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is what I use. So basically this inflates Debians package count and thus we can't really compare the two. Although it will be nice to overtake them . |
Don't forget stuff like KDE. To my knowledge, KDE is in small pieces in Debian (separate Kmail, Konqueror, Noatun etc. etc.)
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Alright, we have a serious debian complex here. This was a nice thread - congrats on the 4,000 packages, gentoo! Now it's turned into yet another "gentoo vs debian" thread. Don't worry about it. Neither distro appears to be going anywhere anytime soon.
Congratulations to the gentoo developers on your success and on the rapid progress you've made. Thanks to everyone who has contributed ebuilds. Good work all around, keep it up! This is a great distribution; it's staying on my desktop for the forseeable future. Maybe I'll try to give something back one of these days. |
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nrl
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Evangelion wrote: |
Don't forget stuff like KDE. To my knowledge, KDE is in small pieces in Debian (separate Kmail, Konqueror, Noatun etc. etc.) |
Yes KMail and Konqueror are seperate packages. The more I think about it we may well have more programs in Gentoo than there is in Debian.
Edit: oops sorry back on topic - congratulations Gentoo . |
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It wouldn't be a bad idea to have KMail as a seperate package...
I wanted to install the damn thing, I had to install the entire KDE-section of the program
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solatis
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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<<edit>>
silly old me accidently posted in the wrong thread
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Ari Rahikkala
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| jetblack wrote: | | Now it's turned into yet another "gentoo vs debian" thread. Don't worry about it. Neither distro appears to be going anywhere anytime soon. |
That's what I intended. I am a professional threadjacker .
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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anyway the package war debian/gentoo is stupid, since portage can be installed on debian...
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