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| dispatch-conf or etc-update or...? |
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45% |
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| etc-update |
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| cfg-update |
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| other / don't care (please explain) |
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welp Retired Dev


Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 103 Location: Ipswich, UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: dispatch-conf or etc-update or...? |
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This has been the cause of much confusion in various #gentoo* channels on freenode, with one user reccommending one and another user recommending the other to a total newbie.... not a good thing.... I personally use dispatch-conf as it's so much easier to use and (IMO) faster... what do you guys think?
mod edit (2006-07-20)
Added poll options 'cfg-update' and 'other' on request, 102 votes for dispatch-conf and 120 for etc-update at that point. --Earthwings _________________ Gentoo/BSD, Gentoo/Alt AT and Bugday lead
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mark_alec Bodhisattva


Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 6066 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| etc-update. It is all there was when I started using Gentoo, and to be honest, I have never tried dispatch-conf. |
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mrsteven Veteran


Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 1841
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: |
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dispatch-conf has some nice extra features, just look at /etc/dispatch-conf.conf. I also think it is somewhat easier to use. _________________ Underneath it all
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 27780 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: |
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etc-update. It is all there was when I started using Gentoo.
I've not tried dispatch-conf. _________________ Regards,
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Monkeh Veteran


Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 1656 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I use etc-update only when I just have a crapload of files which all need to be updated, like a baselayout update on a fresh install. Otherwise, diff, cp, mv, and vim are all I need  |
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alistair Developer


Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 869
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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etc-update. its easy and I always go thru any changes to config files so I don't worry about something failing over. I don't want the extra features of dispatch-conf _________________ ______________
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jmbsvicetto Moderator


Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 4725 Location: Angra do Heroísmo (PT)
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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One of the best things in Gentoo is dispatch-conf. For all those unaware, it keeps a copy of the previous version. If you ever happen to commit a change that you shouldn't, you can recover the old version!  _________________ Jorge.
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Dieter@be Guru

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 314 Location: Wetteren, Belgium
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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i'm still waiting for my first fuckup to happen, after that i'll change to dispatch-conf i suppose
etc-update is so easy, never needed anyting else  _________________ Nothing beats a ride on the Gentoo learning curve.
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alistair Developer


Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 869
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| jmbsvicetto wrote: | One of the best things in Gentoo is dispatch-conf. For all those unaware, it keeps a copy of the previous version. If you ever happen to commit a change that you shouldn't, you can recover the old version!  |
Who needs a copy..... _________________ ______________
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El_UnO n00b


Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Lisboa, Portugal
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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dispatch-conf forever and always...keeps a copy of the old file and allows you to go through the changes  |
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gentoo_lan l33t


Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 887 Location: Osan AB, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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dispatch-conf is by far the best and easiest to use _________________ Registered Linux user# 375038. |
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Suicidal l33t


Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 913 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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etc-update to process trivial file changes
followed by dispatch-conf w/ colordiff for actually updating files. |
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nesl247 Veteran

Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 1614 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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I just use etc-update. If it's a file I know hasn't changed other then my settings, I just remove the ._cfg... file. Otherwise I just overwrite it and reapply my settings. Real easy since I remember what I changed in the files.
Besides, I've never used anything but etc-update, and didn't know about dispatch-conf until a few months ago. |
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shickapooka800 Guru


Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 304 Location: houston, tx <--best city evar
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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etc-update for me, I have never tried dispatch-conf. I guess I too just stuck with what I already was using since I started using gentoo, and saw no reason to change.
although maybe at a next big update I will try dispatch-conf, although that wouln't happen for a while. _________________ The Dose Makes the Poison |
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at240 l33t

Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 603 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, etc-update for me too. I can see why some people find dispatch-conf easier, but I suppose it's just what I'm used to. If we're being completely frank, then I'd have to say that neither is really ideal, but that's another story.  |
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aidanjt Veteran


Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 1096 Location: Rep. of Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| They both suck, dispatch-conf just sucks a little less, so that's what i use, unless I'm working on a blank system, then i'll just use etc-update and -5. |
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geniux Veteran


Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 1400 Location: /home
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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etc-update cause I've always used it and I find it easy to use, but I might just try dispatch-conf and see if it's as good as most people says  _________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ AM2
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Q-collective Veteran


Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1923
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Naib Advocate


Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 3891 Location: UK - Birmingham
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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etc-update _________________
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jonnevers Veteran


Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 1584 Location: Gentoo64 land
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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to everyone that hasn't tried dispatch-conf... I highly recommend you take your next config update as an oppertunity to try it. it is head and shoulders above etc-update! most of its advantage is in its speed. you don't have to type the number of the related config, when you handle the current config (zap it, update the existing, skip, etc) it automatically pulls up the next config change. This is really evident when you are doing the midless config updates like when xorg gets updated and all it's config files (which are generally never user modified) all come up... or when binutils (i think that is it) gets updated and a whole slew of init.d scripts get updated. just, u, u, u, u, u, u, u, u, u, u, u, and they are done
my vote is for dispatch-conf, 100%. until portage isn't cli only based then something gui would be preferred. |
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ppurka Advocate

Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 2782
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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dispatch-conf with the setting | Code: | | diff="vimdiff %s %s" | in /etc/dispatch-conf.conf  |
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RuiP l33t


Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 643
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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My vote goes for dispatch-conf, too.
And btw i comment out the diff line on dispatch-conf.conf and add a new one with meld: distatch-conf with a gui.  _________________ ESTRAGON: We've lost our rights?
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Sourcecode Guru


Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 392 Location: Germany, Kerpen in sew of Cologne
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still using etc-update
because it works for me, and i don't need an colorized output from the files to understand the changes.
ive tried dispatch-conf, but its nothing 4 me. _________________ Es gibt bloss eins, was wichtig ist: dass man sterben muss.
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welp Retired Dev


Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 103 Location: Ipswich, UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like we're split into two groups... the golden oldies... who've been using Gentoo for ages now, and the littluns, who haven't been using Gentoo for so long... _________________ Gentoo/BSD, Gentoo/Alt AT and Bugday lead
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Q-collective Veteran


Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1923
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| welp wrote: | Looks like we're split into two groups... the golden oldies... who've been using Gentoo for ages now, and the littluns, who haven't been using Gentoo for so long... |
And those who defy all and use cfg-update  |
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