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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also checked out the Lenovo R61:

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ThinkPad R61 - 1 Year Depot Warranty
Edit 7742CTO $1,370.00 1 $1,370.00
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 (2.2GHz 800MHz 4MBL2) 1
Operating system: Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic 1
Operating system language: Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic - US English 1
Display type: 14.1 WXGA+ TFT 1
System graphics: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M (128MB) 1
Total memory: 2 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM) 1
Keyboard: Keyboard US English 1
Pointing Device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) 1
Hard Drive: 100GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm 1
Optical device: CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max, Ultrabay Enhanced 1
Wireless cards: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG 1
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN 1
Battery: 7 cell Li-Ion Battery 1
Power cord: Country Pack North America 1
Language Pack: Language Pack US English 1



What do you guys think of this? it's 1370$
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Buying a new Laptop... Reply with quote

dritan wrote:
....but it's perfect for traveling around!!


The x61s is probably what you are looking for though a little more expensive, and no cdrom.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you all running Gentoo on these laptops or know someone personaly whom is? What issues have you all had with hardware etc??


TravelMate® 5520
5520 Technical specifications summerized: wrote:


Processor
AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52
(1MB L2 cache, 1.6GHz)
Chipset
ATI® M690G
Memory
1GB (512MB installed in each of two memory slots) DDR2 667 SDRAM

User upgradeable up to 4GB (one 2GB memory card in each slot)* subject to availability of 2GB cards

*If upgrading after initial purchase, one or more of the memory cards provided with the system may have to be replaced with optional larger memory cards in order to achieve the maximum capacity.
Storage
120GB* hard drive with Acer® DASP (Disk Anti-Shock Protection)

Integrated variable-speed Super-Multi drive (DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD-RAM):
-Read - 24X CD-ROM, 24X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 8X DVD-ROM, 8X DVD-R, 8X DVD+R, 6X DVD-ROM DL (double-layer), 6X DVD-R DL (double-layer), 6X DVD+R DL (double-layer), 6X DVD-RW, 6X DVD+RW, 5X DVD-RAM
-Write - 24X CD-R, 10X CD-RW, 8X DVD-R, 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD-R DL (double-layer), 4X DVD+R DL (double-layer), 6X DVD-RW, 8X DVD+RW, 5X DVD-RAM

5-in-1 card reader for optional MultiMediaCard™, Secure Digital card, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick PRO™ or xD-Picture Card™

Video
15.4" WXGA (1280 x 800) TFT LCD, up to 16.7 million colors

Integrated ATI Radeon™ Xpress 1250 graphics

Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 and PCI Express® support

VGA and S-video TV-out ports

Support for simultaneous display on notebook LCD and external monitor
Audio
Two integrated Acer® 3DSonic stereo speakers

Headphones/speaker/line-out, microphone and line-in ports

Interface Ports
DC-in
RJ-11 modem
RJ-45 LAN
VGA
Headphones/speaker/line-out
Microphone
Line-in
S-video TV-out
FireWire® (IEEE 1394)
FIR (fast infrared)
Four USB 2.0
Card Slots
Type II PC Card slot

ExpressCard™/54 slot

5-in-1 card reader for optional MultiMediaCard™, Secure Digital card, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick PRO™ or xD-Picture Card™
Communications
Acer® InviLink 802.11b/g wireless LAN , Acer® SignalUp technology for enhanced antenna efficiency, WI-FI CERTIFIED™

Gigabit LAN, Wake-on-LAN ready

V.92 56Kbps* data/fax modem, PTT (postal, telegraph, telephone) certified in select countries, Wake-on-Ring ready

*Download speeds are limited to 53Kbps. Actual speeds may vary depending on line conditions. Uploads travel at speeds up to 33.6Kbps. Requires compatible digital sources.

User Interface
88-key Acer® FineTouch keyboard with five-degree curve, inverted T cursor layout, embedded numeric keypad, hotkey controls, 2.5mm minimum key travel, international language support, independent US dollar and Euro sign keys

12 function, four cursor, two Microsoft® Windows® keys

Acer® Empowering key

Web browser, e-mail, user-programmable easy-launch buttons

Front-access WLAN button

Lock, presentation, sync productivity keys

Seamless touchpad with four-way integrated scroll button and Acer® Bio-Protection fingerprint reader
Dimensions & Weight
14.2" (360.0mm) W x 10.5" (267.0mm) D x 1.2" (30.4mm) H

6.4 lb. (2.9kg)

Size and weight may vary depending on configuration
Power
65-watt AC adapter

Six-cell lithium ion battery: up to 2.5 hours life depending on configuration and usage; 2.0 hours recharge time with power off, 3.0 hours with power on, 80% charge in 1.0 hour
Compliance
ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) 3.0
DMI (Desktop Management Interface) 2.0
Mobile PC2002
Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™
Security Features
Acer® Bio-Protection fingerprint reader
User, administrator and hard drive BIOS passwords
Kensington® lock slot
Acer® DASP (Disk Anti-Shock Protection) for hard drive
Quality Tests

AAAHHHH
so many options
I like the s-video out, eventhough it is sooo obsolete, unlike ps/2 stuff I can see myself in a situation wanting to plug into a old s-video and watch a movie since all the tiny media players do not include them.
I do like idea of the 64 bit processor. My house mate is running gentoo amd64 on an insprion. He spends most of his time in vista though :(.
the core 2 duo's and the AMD Turion's are hard to evaluate and compare. There is somthing here explaining the AMD vision/ approach. It kinda gives one the feeling that 1 or 2 years from now 32 bit anything will be a handicap.
What would be any pro's cons interms of power consumption and longevity?
I was using my laptop for dsitcc so if I went with a 64bit could I use crossdev or somthing and still compile for x86 and ppc?
I am noticing these solid state hard disks too which is interesting. I could keep most of my Gentoo stuff and large files on a my old ancient history desktop now server. My entire HD on my laptop now has like 5 kernels a ton of cruft in /usr/portage and 2 years worth of work documents tons of music and a few video's and I am at like 17-18G I could easily use a 16G SSD. However the price is quite high for somthing that lasts how long???
keep the ideas rolling in!

Edit: looks like there is a ALSA issue on this one that is solved here
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comparison summery:
1) ThinkPad X61 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo L7700. pro's weight 3.1 lbs?? best price on fastest processor (add on $270 to price of dell for same) estimate a 8% speed up in compiling,7 USB ports Hard Drive: 100GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm slightly bigger than dell I priced @ 7200 rpm May be pro or con: slightly smaller battery. NO CD/ROM / DVD. I personaly dont need the weight. con's may only have one speaker, noise, Not that exited about trac point kind of like the glide, narrow old fashoned design (will never get stolen caus it looks old)
Dimensions: 1.4" Height x 10.6" Width x 9.4" Depth
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hosted/lenovo-ibm-x61s.html
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Speced out:
@ $1,449.00 wrote:
ThinkPad X61s - 1 Year Depot Warranty
Description Part number Unit price* Quantity Price*
ThinkPad X61s - 1 Year Depot Warranty
Edit 7668CTO $1,449.00 1 $1,449.00
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo L7700 LV (1.8GHz, 4MB L2, 800MHz FSB) 1
Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic 1
Operating System Language: Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic US English 1
Display: 12.1" XGA TFT, 2x3 UltraConnect II antenna 1
Total memory: 2 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM) 1
Keyboard: Keyboard US English 1
Pointing device: TrackPoint 1
Hard Drive: 100GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm Serial ATA (2.5") 1
Intel® Turbo Memory hard drive cache: Intel Turbo Memory 1GB 1
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN 1
Wireless card: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG 1
Battery: ThinkPad X60s Series 8 cell High Capacity Battery 1
Power cord: Country Pack North America 1
Language Pack: Language Pack US English 1
Warranty: 7668: Express - 1 Year Depot Warranty 1



not sure about processor + more money and problems with ALSA.

EDIT:
However 7 USB ports is nice:
Ports & Expansion
Serial Ports No
Parallel Ports No
USB Ports 7
FireWire Ports 1
Microphone Ports Yes
Headphone Jacks Yes
S-Video Ports No
Composite Video Ports No
Docking Station Port Yes
Infrared Port Yes
Shared Mouse/Keyboard Port No
Mini PCI Port No
PC Card Slots 1
Express Card Slots 0

User comments including 1 on poor screen viewing angle


2) Latitude D630: Pros"s weight 5.1 LBS, no windows tax good politics, can upgrade to nvidia, 3 year Limited Hardware Warranty with Mail-in Service, $1271 cons's ?
Width 13.3 in
Depth 9.4 in or 10.3 w/ extended batt
Height 1.3 in
Weight 5.1 lbs
3) Toshiba U300-ST3094 pro's wider screen con's slow HD, slower processor, weak Linux support non customizeable during purchace.

4) Acer Aspire 5520 pro's 64 bit processor wideist display, 200 GB HD probably slow though, price. Cons 6.2 lbs, non customizeable during purchace.
5) ASUS G1S-B1 no closer model found to compare Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.40GHz 15.4in 200GB HDD 2GB DDR2 667 802.11 a/g/n DL does have a 7200 rpm 200G hd and a fancy graffix card. Cons Price at around $2000 poor Linux support.
6) Macbook Pro: Weighs 5.4 lbs 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 1440 x 900 resolution 2GB memory 160GB hard drive1 8x double-layer SuperDrive NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM. Pro's wide exelent display, "super drive" is a dvd burner i think. Con's only 2 usb ports, cost $2,499.00 although there is a Education discount, non customiseable during purchace, 1 button mouse, Politics: Supports closed source bsd based distro.

* 15-inch MacBook Pro
o Height: 2.59 cm (1.0 inch)
o Width: 35.7 cm (14.1 inches)
o Depth: 24.3 cm (9.6 inches)
o Weight: 2.45 kg (5.4 pounds) with battery and optical drive installed

link to 3d models comparing size

7) Serval Performance

Price: $1,535.00 (as I speced)
Serval Performance
Serval Performance

Operating System Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) Linux
- Processor Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2 GHz 800 MHz FSB 4 MB L2
- Memory 2 GB - 2 x 1 GB DDR2 667 MHZ
- Hard Drive 80 GB 7200 RPM SATA
- Optical Drive CD-RW / DVD-RW
- Wireless 802.11 abg
- Bluetooth Bluetooth
- Hardware Warranty 1 Yr. Ltd. Warranty and Technical Support
Display: 15.4" Widescreen WSXGA (1680 x 1050)
Graphics: nVidia 512 MB GeForce 8600GT
Audio Output: Realtek ALC 268
Networking: 10/100/1000 (LAN), WiFi
Wireless: 802.11 abg
Expansion: Express Card
Ports: VGA, 4x USB 2.0, MIC-In, Headphone Out, FireWire 1394, S-Video
Card Reader: 3 in 1 Card Reader
Battery: 9 Cell Lithium Ion
Battery Life: 3 hours
Dimensions: 14.20" x 10.43" x 1.74" (WxDxH)
Weight: 5.9 lbs.

(Pro's and cons in later post)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you all running Gentoo on these laptops or know someone personaly whom is? What issues have you all had with hardware etc??


At least I am, I have successfully installed and ran Gentoo on 2 Dells inspirons, 1 HP dc2000 (or something like that) and 1 IBM (T60). These gave me no problem with hardwares except for the bluetooth in 1 dell (e1405) which somehow fixed itself after a while. Hp was great in terms of media, the remote worked out of the box!!

Great comparison turtles!

@barophobia: X61's are great! but a little too expensive and I am not very sure how strong they are. If anyone has any experience with those please let me know.

For now I am still leaning towards the Dell 630N. I got it priced at 1391 with all the features I want, the SSDs are very interesting, besides the lightning speed, what I am also raelly interested is the battery saving part of it! But they are just not worth it right now, Dell sells them at 400-500$+ but next year this time you may get those at 20% of that. About the lifetime issue, I want to see something with a SSD and a conventional HDD together, so I can mount /var in the HDD and keep the portage in the SSD. I am sure our next laptops will have SSDs in them.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Buying a new Laptop... Reply with quote

Hi,
dritan wrote:
2) D430
...

I have Gentoo installed on a Latitude D420 with all features working except burning CDs with the external cdrom drive but I don't burn that much and didn't spend time on this issue.

I'd definitly go for the D430.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dritan wrote:
...The SSDs are very interesting, besides the lightning speed, what I am also raelly interested is the battery saving part of it!


Solid-state hard drives would be horrible ideas for a Gentoo-based system. Doing regular syncs would tear through them pretty bad, I'd imagine. Although they would be very nice for a package-based distribution. Or, if you stored your portage directories on a platter-based drive.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

merged some posts here.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dritan wrote:
@barophobia: X61's are great! but a little too expensive and I am not very sure how strong they are. If anyone has any experience with those please let me know.


I have one, everything I care about works on it, wireless, alsa, SD. Battery life is excellent! Is not too flashy in terms of looks, although I will not leave it laying around a coffee shop unattended for.

I went with the slowest cpu speed, don't really care that much for cpu speed that much. I have other computers that handle my number crunching for me.

external cdrom will add another $80 ish to the final cost. If you need a external mouse then more money. So it is not a cheap laptop in the end.

I suggest you not test the strength of any laptop, get a good protective cover for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i think I am going to order this:
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PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 (2.20GHz) 4M L2 Cache, 667Mhz Dual Core edit
OPERATING SYSTEM FreeDOS Operating System Kit edit
LCD PANEL 14.1 inch Wide Screen WXGA LCD Panel edit
MEMORY 2.0GB, DDR2-667 SDRAM, 2 DIMMS edit
HARD DRIVE 80GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 7200RPM edit
OPTICAL DRIVE 24X CD-RW/DVD Data Only edit (Read dead weight, I'd rather not have any)
VIDEO CARD Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 edit
WI-FI WIRELESS CARD Intel® 3945 802.11a/g Dual-Band Mini Card edit
FINGERPRINT READER OPTION Standard Touchpad edit (i hope this means I dont get this silly thing)
My Accessories
PRIMARY BATTERY 9 Cell Primary Battery


The only thing I am not sure of is the screen and nvidia upgrade.
I only watch movies occasionaly and am not a gamer so not sure why I need the upgrade?

I am looking at $1271
the think pad is enticing but I am concerned the screen is too small and I might not like the pointer.
and last advice?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well guys... if you're _so_ concerned about case strength... Take a shot at some Panasonic Toughbook, Genereal Dynamics Itronix or Mitac Getac. You can drop most of those off of a 2 story building roof... or submerge them for an hour or so without any worries. Hell you can get a tank drive over them.

Or you can get your Lenovo... IBM got famous for their "strong" cases. Everything I hear about Lenovo seems to uphold that.

And yes, this post was supposed to be at least somewhat funny... Lenovo should be ok for regular use - including a kick or two per day, or a drop from a chair - table would be pushing it tho. On the other hand... GD C4 GoBook looks omg-I-want-it-now-just-so-I-can-throw-it-out-the-window-infront-of-my-wife!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...


A gateway?

I got mine for 400.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinkpad T61P.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a interesting deal on a pre loaded linux laptop:
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- Operating System Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) Linux
- Processor Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2 GHz 800 MHz FSB 4 MB L2
Display: 15.4" Widescreen WSXGA (1680 x 1050)
Graphics: nVidia 512 MB GeForce 8600GT
Audio Output: Realtek ALC 268
Networking: 10/100/1000 (LAN), WiFi
Wireless: 802.11 abg
Expansion: Express Card
Ports: VGA, 4x USB 2.0, MIC-In, Headphone Out, FireWire 1394, S-Video
Card Reader: 3 in 1 Card Reader
Battery: 9 Cell Lithium Ion
Battery Life: 3 hours
Dimensions: 14.20" x 10.43" x 1.74" (WxDxH)
Weight: 5.9 lbs.
- Memory 2 GB - 2 x 1 GB DDR2 667 MHZ
- Hard Drive 80 GB 7200 RPM SATA
- Optical Drive CD-RW / DVD-RW
- Wireless 802.11 abg
- Bluetooth Bluetooth
- Hardware Warranty 1 Yr. Ltd. Warranty and Technical Support
$1,535.00 $1,535.00
Sub-Total: $1,535.00

I priced this with the same hardware bill I used on my other comparisons earlier.
Would still have to make a Gentoo partition but DVD R/W for those whom care and a nice video card comparable to the macbook pro for less and it comes with actual open source linux?
I upgraded the processor, hard disk, ram for heavy development / Gentoo use.
and blue tooth all of which are optional you can actually get in to this for around $1100.
Oh and it meets my s-video out and the trackpad requirement. I know you can get a vga to s-video adaptor on ebay for like $20 but one more thing to loose.

Pro's no reformatting a brand new drive comes in a linux ext3 format, no windows or OS X tax, can make a new partition easily and install Gentoo in a new partition from chroot in Ubuntu. Company supports linux on the laptop so any driver issues or questions they will support (they had to get certified by Ubuntu), similar price to Dell and same as Thinkpad but includes better graffix chip set. You can support a company that supports linux. Company has a forum where people have asked about Gentoo installs and open source driver questions.
Con's optical drive is not optional however I did not check other models. They wont give you support if you are not running Ubuntu however Ubuntu can be pretty broadly defined as well as Gentoo. I will probably keep an ubuntu partition really small as a back up partition. Also if you talk specifics in terme of kernel modules and driver packages it is all similar.
Not sure about case strength.

And on case strength you can get a extra heavy duty dell or an entry level Gobook for around $3500.00
The Dell has all kinds of weird options like pre partitioned hard drives and exceptions from the warranty on returning the hard drive. You can also get used gobooks on ebay seam really out of date but if you install a new HD and a slim version of Gentoo? may be all you need for durable feild notebook. The main features I like about the gobook is the display is rated for outdoor use, has GPS, spill proof keyboard and durability. Out of my price range though.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't they a tad expensive? $49 for a (unknown, but may as well be branded) 512MB stick of DDR2 RAM... I just bought me a 1GB Patriot stick for $32. $95 for a 120GB hdd? I can get one for $85 (so I would, technically, get the 40GB included in the laptop price for free AND save another $10).

IF I'd buy from them I'd stick to a bare minimum and just add in stuff I'd buy from somewhere else at half price they offer. I think the preinstalled linux means inflated prices. For example... I can buy a lappy with preinstalled Vista/XP for the same price as with Linux. BUT - returning Vista/XP for a refund makes that same laptop somewhere between $50 and $100 cheaper (depends on the Win flavour).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pithlit wrote:
Aren't they a tad expensive?

In a nut shell it is $86 more than the Thinkpad x61s and $145 more than dritan's model of D630 and has a DVD burner and better graffix.

The 1,449.00 Think pad, the $1271 Dell and the Toshiba in my comparison post above had the System graphics: Intel GMA X3100 GM965 all of them smaller screens.
The Dell that dritan probably ordered had the upgraded 135M 8400M-GS based nvidia chip for I think making her total $1390 or $145 less than the system76 she also did not upgrade to the DVD R/W wich add's on around $90.

Only the $2,499.00 macbook pro included a similar DVD burner and the superior GeForce 8600GT chip set in the base price making the system76 the same as a Macbook pro but $964 less
and they throw in a right click button (sorry I am really hung up on that as long as liinux uses middle click for paste I need those 2 buttons right there).
Although Dells politics are getting better the D630 only offered Freedos (no GUI) and not Ubuntu when they offer Ubuntu on other models with a "made for windows" sticker next to the Ubuntu choice. Now where is the demand for freedos on a brand new laptop? I dont know if Dell is an Ubuntu partner either.

The 1,449.00 x61s thinkpad was my runner up based on size and weight and did not have any optical drive at all since I think optical drives are worthless (more so if you have s-video out) and it was an option to exclude it. Eventough it is around $86 more expensive than the Thinkpad you basicly get a cross between a macbook pro and a thinkpad. It has the s-video out, the touch pad, etc. But the x61s only has a Xga display and no graffix chip upgrade available.
If you upgrade the DVD on the thinkpad and the Dell and upgrade to the Nvidia on the dell you are getting close in price. I just selected the same amount of memory upgrades on all of them. You would have to compare what they all are charging for the individual memory upgrades.

Next I consider that getting a jumpstart on a Gentoo install by already having a formatted drive and a working linux environment for a chroot, not having the hassle of returning OSuX or Windowns and reformatting a drive may be worth the $86-145 left in the price gap.
next you have opening the case to install memory...
Or consider the excellent linux support they have etc..
A Gentoo install is a non billable non paid time commitment for me and there are only 52 weekends per yer so anything to speed you along is worth it in my mind. However you are correct if you have a little extra time you can upgrade everything and sell the new never used stuff including OS software online.
Since I fixed my old laptop I don't get a new one yet. But it is fun to look at what is out here.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got my Thinkpad T61 in the mail, will be testing out Linux in a week or so after I give Vista it's run ( :lol: )

Specs:

Core 2 Duo T7300
2gb RAM
Intel Pro Wireless 4965 ABGN
Bluetooth
Intel GMA X3100
14.1" WXGA+@1440x900 Resolution(fucking sweet)

Really want to try this with Fedora 8 when it comes out, but after Vista gets wiped will give Gentoo a shot and will post my findings on these forums.
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So Gentoo didn't work as well as I wanted it too, but Fedora 8 runs flawlessly on this fine piece of hardware!
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So Gentoo didn't work as well as I wanted it too, but Fedora 8 runs flawlessly on this fine piece of hardware!


Does suspend and hibernation work with the proprietary ati drivers? assuming you have an ati card.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tylerwylie wrote:
So Gentoo didn't work as well as I wanted it too, but Fedora 8 runs flawlessly on this fine piece of hardware!


Does suspend and hibernation work with the proprietary ati drivers? assuming you have an ati card.
ATI card isn't available for my model, it's either intel onboard(What I list in my specs) or the nvidia quadro
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reliable Gentoo Notebook? Reply with quote

Hello,

I am in the market for a new notebook that I intend to install Gentoo on. I would rank myself as an experienced Linux user that has been trying to install Gentoo over the past year but has lacked the time (full time university student). Come this summer, I'll be purchasing a modern notebook and I will finally have the time to get Gentoo beyond the minimal installation.

Are there notebooks you guys would recommend, either through second hand knowledge or experience, that meet the following requirements:

1) Hardware must be reliable and withstand abuse (as in reviewing notes on my lap on a rikkity bus inbetween classes every day for three years). The computer cannot break down. It is an integral part of my life. It simply must work.
2) Must have at least 15" widescreen and decent battery life (3+ hours)
3) It MUST BE GENTOO COMPATIBLE! PERIOD!
4) I am looking at higher performance systems, I am willing to shell out extra money for higher end, reliable and compatible hardware.

Thank you for your time,
-sdls
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run gentoo on my Thinkpad T60 and love it. It is not widescreen, but there is a widescreen version of the T61 which is basically the same machine. There are a few good wikis showing the current linux hardware support for Thinkpads, such as http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Lenovo_Thinkpad_T61
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am totally with ito717. Go after a ThinkPad.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Gentoo on my IBM thinkpad. It was as easy to install as on my desktop.
Plus there is tons of documentation. :)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

merged above four posts here. please search before posting
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