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filterpunk n00b


Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 71 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| K T A wrote: | I'd be delighted to test it...
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Groovy. I'm still not decided if i'll make it public or not, but if enough interest is there.. i'll be taking a break this weekend though, since we've got company visiting from LA  _________________ Gentoo 2.6.17-r4 AMD64 | AMD Athlon64 3200+ Manchester, 1GB Mushkin PC-3500 Black Hi-Perf Level II, Asus V9999GT 128MB |
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isez2001 n00b

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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If it works, make it as public as you possibly can.
Clearly, there are at least a few people (and probably more who haven't spoken up yet) who would like to use it, and who knoows... you might be on to something with this "options" thing . |
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Emopig Apprentice


Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 188
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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gnome-experimental overlay users may have noticed that bugbuddy, the Gnome bug reporting tool, now relies on components of evolution data server... _________________ 2.6.35 / Gnome 2.30
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drwook Veteran

Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 1316 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I'll confess in advance I've only read the first page of this thread... But in case it's not been suggested in the page and a half I haven't read ;
Why screw with the gnome overlay? If you 'emerge gnome', chances are you'd like gnome as upstream intend. & gnome-light may not be to everyone's taste. So why not something like a 'gnome-core' (or whatever) that includes all the 'complete gui' stuff except web browser and evolution? (personally I actually like evolution, even though I flit between gnome, fluxbox, kde and fvwm ) |
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daschapa Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Rosario, Argentina
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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I believe Gnome is most than a desktop environment. My conception about Gnome aproaches more to a "Work Environment". It may sound like a silly word game, but i understand Gnome is a big umbrella that has anything you need to do you jobs. It is a Ready2Go environment.
You can emerge gnome-light, it doesn't include evolution.
It is only my personal viewspot.
Bye, and excuse my poor, sad, bad english. _________________ ======================
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geniux Veteran


Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 1400 Location: /home
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| daschapa wrote: | Gnome aproaches more to a "Work Environment". It may sound like a silly word game, but i understand Gnome is a big umbrella that has anything you need to do you jobs. It is a Ready2Go environment.
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But that's exactly what a Desktop Environment is all about, it should contain anything you need to do your everyday jobs and such _________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ AM2
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Dralnu Veteran


Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Problem with gnome-lite, as stated previously, is that is gives you hardly anything, making it somewhat unusable. The rest you only have those two options, though, is the Gnome herb have decided that they will not split up the ebuild, and that they will provide it as-is as far as what is concerned with what is incorparated into the DE.
Its just bloat until they change their minds and decide to go the way of KDE with the split ebuilds. _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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olger901 l33t


Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 606
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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I agree there should be an option to remove epiphany and evolution, as I never use them and they are just sitting there (using firefox/thunderbird instead).
But the problem is if you can get an epiphany and/or evolution flag, then why not include a games flag to remove the gnome games, why not include a use flag for nautilus or for totem?...those are installed by default aswell and I don't use totem and I don't use most of the gnome-utils either...that would mean that they would have to set a use flag for each package which would take alot of work. _________________ Favorite Quote: "The most profound technologies are those that disappear" |
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flysideways Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 145
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| I'd be happy with some documentation/guidance that showed how to build up functionality from gnome-light. I came to Gentoo partially because I was tired of removing everything that I did't want and had no use for in other distros. |
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PaulBredbury Watchman


Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 6609
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| flysideways wrote: | | how to build up functionality from gnome-light |
I would suggest running emerge -pv gnome, then emerging the packages in the shown list that you want (with emerge -DuN, to ensure the dependencies are pulled in). That's what I did - I use Gnome, but have neither of the gnome & gnome-light meta-packages installed. |
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drwook Veteran

Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 1316 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| Why not just knock up an ebuild with a lot of DEPEND/RDEPEND's so you've got your own metapackage? Saves messing up your world file with havoc... |
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PaulBredbury Watchman


Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 6609
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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True, but my world file is already messed up, with 900 entries
Keeping the world file a reasonable size doesn't have any importance to me. |
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flysideways Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 145
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| PaulBredbury wrote: | | I would suggest running emerge -pv gnome, then emerging the packages in the shown list that you want (with emerge -DuN, to ensure the dependencies are pulled in). That's what I did - I use Gnome, but have neither of the gnome & gnome-light meta-packages installed. | Excellent idea, thanks. As usual the obvious had escaped me. |
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