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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K T A wrote:
I'd be delighted to test it...

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Groovy. I'm still not decided if i'll make it public or not, but if enough interest is there.. i'll be taking a break this weekend though, since we've got company visiting from LA :D
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it works, make it as public as you possibly can.

Clearly, there are at least a few people (and probably more who haven't spoken up yet) who would like to use it, and who knoows... you might be on to something with this "options" thing ;) .
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gnome-experimental overlay users may have noticed that bugbuddy, the Gnome bug reporting tool, now relies on components of evolution data server...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'll confess in advance I've only read the first page of this thread... But in case it's not been suggested in the page and a half I haven't read ;

Why screw with the gnome overlay? If you 'emerge gnome', chances are you'd like gnome as upstream intend. & gnome-light may not be to everyone's taste. So why not something like a 'gnome-core' (or whatever) that includes all the 'complete gui' stuff except web browser and evolution? (personally I actually like evolution, even though I flit between gnome, fluxbox, kde and fvwm :) )
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Gnome is most than a desktop environment. My conception about Gnome aproaches more to a "Work Environment". It may sound like a silly word game, but i understand Gnome is a big umbrella that has anything you need to do you jobs. It is a Ready2Go environment.
You can emerge gnome-light, it doesn't include evolution.
It is only my personal viewspot.
Bye, and excuse my poor, sad, bad english.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daschapa wrote:
Gnome aproaches more to a "Work Environment". It may sound like a silly word game, but i understand Gnome is a big umbrella that has anything you need to do you jobs. It is a Ready2Go environment.

But that's exactly what a Desktop Environment is all about, it should contain anything you need to do your everyday jobs and such
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem with gnome-lite, as stated previously, is that is gives you hardly anything, making it somewhat unusable. The rest you only have those two options, though, is the Gnome herb have decided that they will not split up the ebuild, and that they will provide it as-is as far as what is concerned with what is incorparated into the DE.

Its just bloat until they change their minds and decide to go the way of KDE with the split ebuilds.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree there should be an option to remove epiphany and evolution, as I never use them and they are just sitting there (using firefox/thunderbird instead).

But the problem is if you can get an epiphany and/or evolution flag, then why not include a games flag to remove the gnome games, why not include a use flag for nautilus or for totem?...those are installed by default aswell and I don't use totem and I don't use most of the gnome-utils either...that would mean that they would have to set a use flag for each package which would take alot of work.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be happy with some documentation/guidance that showed how to build up functionality from gnome-light. I came to Gentoo partially because I was tired of removing everything that I did't want and had no use for in other distros.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flysideways wrote:
how to build up functionality from gnome-light

I would suggest running emerge -pv gnome, then emerging the packages in the shown list that you want (with emerge -DuN, to ensure the dependencies are pulled in). That's what I did - I use Gnome, but have neither of the gnome & gnome-light meta-packages installed.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just knock up an ebuild with a lot of DEPEND/RDEPEND's so you've got your own metapackage? Saves messing up your world file with havoc...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but my world file is already messed up, with 900 entries :)

Keeping the world file a reasonable size doesn't have any importance to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulBredbury wrote:
I would suggest running emerge -pv gnome, then emerging the packages in the shown list that you want (with emerge -DuN, to ensure the dependencies are pulled in). That's what I did - I use Gnome, but have neither of the gnome & gnome-light meta-packages installed.
Excellent idea, thanks. As usual the obvious had escaped me.
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