Trillian 3.1 on Wine on Xgl: Hides and never comes back

[Shapeshifter]

Hi,

I'm trying to run Trillian under Wine on Xgl. Now initially I had the problem that the contact list maximized and minimized forever, without accepting mouse or keyboard inputs. Nore was I able to quit it. I copied this Trillian installation from my windows partition and so it still had the docking function turned on, and after I changed some .ini the problem was solved. Now the problem is this:

After I start Trillian, the contact list shows up. Everything seems fine. But if I try to drag the contact list, it jumps around a few times - wobbly does a greate job even here btw - but after that it minimizes to the tray and never comes up again, even if I left click on the tray icon.

Another problem is, that I can't right click on the tray, because if I do, the pop-up menu appears but flickers like hell and doesn't accept inputs. This isn't a real problem, because I don't use that pop-up menu anyway.

Anyway I think, that all these problems could be solved if I can turn off certain Xgl plugins, like wobbly, restore and others for this particulay programm. How can I do that?

Trillian was tested quite well on Wine and works on X. Btw, please don't start a discussion about how dumb it is, to run Windows software on Linux Got my reasons...

Thx for your help,
Shapeshifter

[Phenax]

Just tried it. Pretty much the same problems.
You'll probably want to 'emulate a Windows desktop' or whatnot.

Anywho, Trillian sucks, stupid idea if your looking to talk on AIM/MSN/etc.. May I ask the reason behind it?

[Shapeshifter]

I'm using Trillian for a few years now on the Windows platform and if I'm using Windows for some reason now, that I switched to Linux more or less, I use the Trillian installation located on the Linux partition, so that the logs are filled subsequently, indipendet of witch OS I'm running. That could be also possible if I use gaim, because it's cross platform, but compared to Trillian, gaim is real crap.

And anyway, I can't see why Trillian should suck, for my priorities it's just perfect: Tiny skin (see here, nice logs, not only of conversations, but also status console logs (yes I use them from time to time), nice live log display if u open a fresh chat window, etc.

I like it more than every other client, and I really tried costumizing kopete for my needs, but it doesn't reach to trillian...

[Phenax]

How is Gaim crap compared to Trillian? Have you tried the latest beta?

[Shapeshifter]

I'll just give it a try, and then post what I think...

[Phenax]

Alright, make sure you grab 2.0.0 beta 3.

[Shapeshifter]

Uhm I'm quite new to gentoo, and I don't get it, why emerge keeps saying masked for:

=net-im/gaim-2.0.0_beta3-r1 ~x86

in /etc/portage/package.keywords

got that line from http://www.gentoo-portage.com/net-im/gaim

What's wrong?

[Phenax]

It's hard masked, and masked by keywords. You need to do

[Shapeshifter]

.unmask

[Shapeshifter]

I don't really see big changes to earlier version, but I just noticed there are some very nice plugins. It's ok, maybe I just need to get used to the new stuff. But still I'm very unpleased regarding the look of gaim. Smilie themes, I mean that's a bad joke. And I use KDE so it isn't integrated taht nicely. Hm, I don't have gnome installed. How do I change the look of gtk based apps so that I can adapt it to my KDE style?

edit: I just gave the newest kopete a try and I'm very pleased of what I see. All menus can be hided, so there's nothing useless left... I think, as a KDE user, I'll remain using kopete.

Although I'm still interested in turing of the Xgl stuff for certain progs...

[Phenax]

There are themes and smiley themes, look around.